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Dani88br
post Sep 20 2009, 11:11 AM
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Am si eu o intrebare,deci am un524TD(motor m21) e34 si am avut prima oara o turbina de 2.4 normal un garrett t3,acum i-am pus o turbina de 325tds e36 garrett t4,dar totusi is nemultumit cum trage,nu are zvacul ala cum au celelalte diesele,trage binisor,oricum e putin mai imbunatatit decat cealalta.
Ce imi recomandati sa pun pe el acum ca sa traga mai bine din ture joase cat si cele high rpm smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2009, 11:13 AM
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geometrie variabila .. .alta solutie nu ai



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post Sep 20 2009, 11:19 AM
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Mi-am pus si eu intrebarea asta... Prima varianta ar fi un intercooler, dar nu stiu cat e de riscant. Dieselurile noi au intercooler, 24Valve, turbo cu geometrie variabila, common-rail... Mai bine ii pui un motor de TDS
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post Sep 20 2009, 12:49 PM
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nu,alti bani alta distractie,mai bine investesti in asta smile.gif si apoi vad eu cat e de riscant....
am avut un turbo IHI de pe subaru parca era T de benzina stii cum mergea ohmy.gif patina 1 a din mers biggrin.gif da nu mai am turbina sad.gif(


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post Sep 20 2009, 12:57 PM
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am uitat sa intreb,ce turbo cu geometri variabila ptr un motor de 2.5 diesel ar fi cea mai buna alegere ?

am gasit aici un holset
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvI58RDKxus
dar este de pe un Dodge Cummins si mie teama ca m21 nici nu o invarte smile.gif)
inca un holset
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZbWdZVbvhg
daca pe motorul m21 o sa se auda la fel turbina ar fi masina diesel perfecta:))

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post Sep 20 2009, 02:47 PM
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m-am gandit la alta chestie ca sa scot mai multa putere din turbina pe care o ai,ati vazut ca pe ea este supapa de vacum,cand ajunge turbina sa bage in motor o anumita presiune deschide o clapeta la celelalta pale ale turbinei si da fumul pe langa ea sa nu mai invarta turbina dupa o anumita presiune turbina...oricum si inchisa ramane un locusor mic sad.gif((((
eu ma gandesc serios sa sudez aia acolo sa o astup de tot sa fac in asa fel incat tot fumul sa bate in pale si pompa aia de vacum,o desfiintez biggrin.gif
Oare faram turbina?ca motorul nu are cum sa pice,eu nu fac cercuri sau alte chestii de genul asta,vreau putere la depasiri,mi se pare ca dureaza o vesnicie,si in + imi trebuie loc la o depasire daca sunt in spatele lui,asa ca imi mia tebuie boost! segmenti noi nouti am,ulei beton am,cu injectoarele cred ca stau mai prost...oare daca le repar pastea o sa traga masina mai bine?


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post Sep 20 2009, 03:27 PM
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Aia e wastegate-ul, daca il elimini risti sa faci praf turbina. Asta e ca si blocarea vascului... Injectoarele se verifica destul de usor. Nu stiu cum iti merge tie motorul. Mie mi se pare ca al meu trage binisor, avand in vedere ca 2.4td este considerat un motor destul de puturos smile.gif Transmisia e pe curea, chiulasa nu e renumita pentru fiabilitatea ei, conceptia e veche (2 valve/cilindru), asa ca NU e recomandat sa-l fortezi prea mult...
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post Sep 20 2009, 07:05 PM
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am inteles sad.gif(deci trebuie sa o vand si sa-mi iau un 530d e39 smile.gif) m-am plimbat azi si trage belea rau de tot


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post Sep 20 2009, 08:33 PM
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Sau dacă vrei să rămâi la E34, treci pe benzină. smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2009, 10:34 PM
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eu as fi multumit daca as putea sa fac td ul meu sa aiba aceleratia td ului din film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3IfYJdAiMc
din cate vad are intercooler si o turbina mai mare probabil....dar doar atat?
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post Sep 20 2009, 11:11 PM
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Omu' e putin maniac... Si eu ma uit la filmuletele acelea de multa vreme. Din cate stiu e refacut si motorul, umblat si la interne... Oricum, as vrea sa stiu detalii. Nu gasim oare un DIY? tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 08:13 PM
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stiam si eu filmuletele smile.gif
chiar asa de multa diferenta atuce un intercoole ?

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post Sep 21 2009, 09:35 PM
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Având în vedere rolul intercooler-ului, întrebarea ar putea fi retorică.
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post Sep 22 2009, 09:29 AM
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da stiu ca baga aerul rece in motor,dar ma gandeam...chiar asa de mult se simte un intercooler,ca nu i-am pus niciodata,nu am gasit unu mai mare asa pe la dezmmbrari...


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