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post Nov 14 2005, 10:26 AM
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sambata dupa-amiaza am patit ceva straniu ... pornesc masina si nu mai intra in nici o viteza, a s-a aprins si becul de la lichidul de frana.... pun lichid de frana, actionez ambreiajul de cateva ori si intr-un final incepe sa mearga


azi dimineata gasesc sub masina o balta de lichid de frana :crybaby:

bineinteles ca iar nu intra in viteze :crybaby:

ce garnituri trebe sa iau ??? ca diseara trebe sa o fac :ninja:


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post Nov 14 2005, 10:29 AM
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?????
cred ca a vrut sa trimita un PM si a facut topic...... laugh.gif


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post Nov 14 2005, 10:38 AM
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Cel mai bine, ia-ti clindru receptor cu totul. Foarte probabil ca peretii interni ai cilindrului sa fie corodati.
E foarte important ca cel putin o data pe an sa improspatezi lichidul din cilindrul receptor de la ambreiaj, scurgand minim 100 ml de lichid de frana prin surubul de aerisire. Cilindrul receptor e cea mai joasa componenta a circuitului; ca urmare in el se strange multa mizerie.
De asemenea, atunci cand garniturile incep sa fie compromise, lichidul de frana din cilindrul receptor se contamineaza usor cu apa si corodeaza cilindrul pe interior.
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post Nov 14 2005, 10:41 AM
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Cred ca sunt garniturile se schimba destul de usoar si costa putin@Robert cilindru nou nu stiu daca mai gaseste smile.gif


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post Nov 14 2005, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (alex230ro)
cilindru nou nu stiu daca mai gaseste
Se gaseste, l-am schimbat eu in primavara 2005.
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post Nov 14 2005, 11:00 AM
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cat de usor se schimba garniturile si unde sunt ele???

pls spunet-mi ca am o ditamai balta sub masina de la 8:30 pana la 10:50 s-a facut o balta de toata frumusetea :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:01 AM
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a si cam cat costa??


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:06 AM
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si cum se numesc alea exact??


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:13 AM
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Eu am avut noroc: am platit pe un cilindru receptor ATE nou $28 + $15 transport, dar am asteptat cca. 1 luna sa vina si a fost printr-o conexiune personala.

Iti recomand sa suni la Ausburg sau BMW Filaret si sa ceri o cotatie de pret. Cred ca p/n tau este 21521116300 (vorbim de cilindrul receptor, de la ambreiaj, nu cel master de la pedala), si cred ca o sa coste vreo 90+ EUR.
Setul de reparatie ar trebui sa fie undeva la EUR 30+

Preturile de mai sus sunt total estimate - suna la dealeri si afla exact cat costa. Cand afli exact cat costa, te rog sa postezi aici - sunt curios.
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post Nov 14 2005, 11:14 AM
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ce dimensiuni au oare ??? 19, 20 sau 22??


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (cristic)
si cum se numesc alea exact??

Cilindrul receptor de la ambreiaj este "output cylinder clutch" sau "slave cylinder clutch" si are p/n: 21521116300.
Setul de garnituri este "repait kit output cylinder clutch". Aici sunt doua p/n: 21521113875 (daca ai cilindrul receptor fabricat de ATE) sau 21521157655 (daca e fabricat de FAG).
Deci, daca optezi pentru kitul de reparatie, trebuie neaparat sa te bagi sub masina sa afli de cine e fabricat cilindrul receptor (trebuie sa scrie pe el).
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post Nov 14 2005, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE (cristic)
ce dimensiuni au oare ??? 19, 20 sau 22??

Cand suni la dealer sa ceri cotatie, sa ai la tine seria de la caroserie (mai exact, ultimele 7 caractere din serie). Pe baza ei afla exact (well, relativ exact) ce echipament ai pe masina si ce piese de schimb iti trebuie. Part number-urile de mai sus ti le-am dat spre referinta, ca sa poti sa double check.
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post Nov 14 2005, 11:23 AM
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si nu e de mai multe dimensiuni??


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:26 AM
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Poti incerca sa schimbi doar garniturile, te costa 1-2 sute de mii setul pentru cilindru. Dar nu se stie cat te tin.


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:29 AM
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@TiL sincer asa si vreau sa fac dar nu stiu ce dimensiuni au garniturile :crybaby: :crybaby:


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:33 AM
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cred ca asta e piesa .... http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...21&fg=10&hl=345 dar unde o gasesc pozitionata pe masina?


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:39 AM
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Este piesa #14 din poza.
Te bagi sub masina, te uiti in partea stanga a carcasei ambreiajului, este prinsa in carcasa cu doua suruburi, si are axa cumva paralela cu axa longitudinala a masinii.
Este usor de recunoscut, pentru ca are atasat furtunul de cauciuc pentru lichidul de frana.
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post Nov 14 2005, 11:40 AM
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conform catalogului de la http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?par...r=on&series=E30 tot ce este 318i coupe are garnitura de 19.05


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post Nov 14 2005, 11:43 AM
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Daca mergi la magazin si le dai datele exacte ale masinii ar trebui sa-ti gaseasca exact ce-ti trebuie tie. Asa am patit cu cilindrul de frana de la tamburi. Modelele pana in '86 aveau un diametru, dupa '86 alt diametru. Al meu e '86, deci intra in prima grupa. Si garniturile s-au potrivit smile.gif


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post Nov 14 2005, 12:05 PM
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DIAMETRUL CILINDRULUI ESTE 20.64MM
SI CEL MAI BINE LE CERI UN CILINDRU RECEPTOR PE AFERMARKET MAI MULT DE 35 EURO NU CRED CA DAI PE EL ( EVENTUAL ATE)
ORIGINL E SCUMP RAU SUB 60EUR NU CRED CA GASESTI

CEL MAI BINE IL DESFACI DE PE MASINA SI VEZI DACA E IMPUSCAT
VERIFICA UZURA PE INTERIORUL LUI SI GARNITURICILE

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