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post Nov 15 2005, 10:25 AM
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Cum evitam un derapaj ? Si daca am ajuns in acel moment delicat, care ar fi cele mai eficiente "miscari" pentru redresare ?

Cei cu experienta sa impartaseasca ....

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post Nov 15 2005, 10:37 AM
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pe mine m-a invatat cineva ca daca masina a intrat in derapaj se vireaza in aceeasi directie in care parte se duce de spate si nu se schimba treapta de viteza (frana de motor) -ca face si mai rau :unibrow: ... se ia usor picorul de pe acc (nu se actioneaza brusc)


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post Nov 15 2005, 10:41 AM
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Corect smile.gif Later edit: in cazul in care ai viteza prea mare nu prea mai ai ce sa redresezi biggrin.gif .


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post Nov 15 2005, 05:51 PM
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se conduce in asa fel incat nu se ajunge la pierderea controlului tongue.gif


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post Nov 15 2005, 06:02 PM
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ce, se preconizeaza o intalnire pe poligon? :unibrow:
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post Nov 15 2005, 06:03 PM
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biggrin.gif nu ma ca iar va lasati masinile pe acolo :unibrow: + ca nu e zapada smile.gif


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post Nov 15 2005, 07:23 PM
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la prima zapada nu e bun poligonu
tre sa faca altii lunecusu biggrin.gif


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post Nov 16 2005, 12:53 AM
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post Nov 16 2005, 09:35 AM
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sincer eu nu vreau sa ninga :crybaby:
in afara de un pic de fun care-l ai atunci cand te invarti si faci cateva derapaje nu e nimik bun... dimineata poti ramane blocat in zapada, trebe sa ai grija langa cine parchezi masina ca dimineta sa nu o gasesti lovita, circulatia in tot orasul e infiorator de greoaie, faci o juma de ora pana la munca plus ca sunt o multime de idioti care nu adapteaza viteza..... sa continui?


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post Nov 16 2005, 09:52 AM
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Eu fac 20 de minute de cand am chip. dar suntem offtopic
Si la iarna merg cu 4x4 ca mi-e frica sa conduc cu tractiune spate.


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post Nov 16 2005, 10:14 AM
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[quote="cristic"]pe mine m-a invatat cineva ca daca masina a intrat in derapaj se vireaza in aceeasi directie in care parte se duce de spate quote]
Daca eu in momentele alea de panica as sti in ce parte se duce masina de spate,bine ar fi!Mi-e frica insa ca n-as mai sti nici cum ma cheama! sad.gif


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post Nov 16 2005, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (jaffar)
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+ ca nu e zapada smile.gif


ai fi in stare sa faci pariu ? :unibrow:

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Da as putea biggrin.gif din ce zice acolo tre sa ne vedem la 12 noaptea cand sunt -5 grade si sunt ceva sanse ca zapada sa se aseze.In timpul zilei vad ca zic 5 grade smile.gif


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post Nov 16 2005, 10:24 AM
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Abia astept sa ninga wink.gif Deocamdata merg cu all-season pe spate dar in decembrie imi trag ciorapii de iarna.
Sunt foarte curios cum se comporta ursuletul pe zapada, ca E28 s-a comportat excelent.


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post Nov 16 2005, 10:35 AM
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depinde biggrin.gif
daca masina a derapat pt ca a fost lasata in frana de motor (multi fac greseala asta, la intrarea in curba lasa pedala de acceleratie si greutatea se duce pe rotile din fata iar spatele are aderenta mica) ori se apasa ambreiajul ori se apasa treptat acceleratia
daca a derapat usor din acceleratie ori contravirezi si dai blana ori ridici usor piciorul dupa aceleratie

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post Nov 16 2005, 10:38 AM
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Crezi ca daca imi era frica sa merg cu tr. spate pe zapada mai scriam? tongue.gif


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post Nov 16 2005, 12:39 PM
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@525da incerca de cateva ori intr-un loc liber si incet incet iti va intra in reflex (si mie mi-a fost greu la inceput)


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post Nov 16 2005, 01:30 PM
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eu zic ca in astfel de situatie este vb de reactia pe moment a soferului...unii cu experientza au timp sa si gandeasca ce e de facut...altzii cu talent reactioneaza din instinct...iar altii din prostie si o infig in stalp...
Acum serios...personal mi s-a intamplat de cateva ori s-o patzesc si pe uscat (de fapt piatra cubica) si pe zapada...e ceva normal zic eu..la care tre sa te astepti in orice clipa si la orice viteza...asta nu inseamna sa conduci stresat ci doar sa fi mai degajat si calm...
Ce e de facut? Clar nu calci frana pty ca rupi orice aderentza si posibilitate de redresare si clar nu o mai acc...no offence dar a contrabraca si a acc blana efectul este de o arunca de spate si mai rau in sens opus...poate chiar s-o intorci aiurea...pur si simplu se lasa un pic din gaz si se ia frumos de volan incet pana se aduce pe linie dr...parerea mea personala este ca deshi tractiunea spate este mai vulnerabila se redreseaza f usor pe cand tr fatza ai pierdut-o ...pai esti pierdut definitiv biggrin.gif


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post Nov 16 2005, 02:01 PM
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are dreptate mikol totul sta in finete si sa nu uiti in ce parte sunt indreptate rotile din fata

iar despre ce a zis jaffar doar nu o sa luati in serios :evil:


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post Nov 17 2005, 02:25 AM
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De-abia astept sa incerc. Sa-mi fuga de spate pe zapada si sa contrabrachez si sa-i dau blana. Cu 333 de cai si cuplu 450nm biggrin.gif
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post Nov 17 2005, 11:49 AM
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Vrem si noi sa filmam cand faci asta. Cred ca iese super .. :nod:


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