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florin83
post Apr 18 2006, 05:26 PM
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si-a pus cineva azot in cauciucuri?

mi-am pus si eu azi odata cu schimbarea cauciucurilor (195/50/15)..

masina a deventi mult mai rigida.. am fost de la victoriei pana in herastrau si a trebuit sa merg cu 30-40km/h ca m-a rupt. imi clantaneau dintii in gura de cat de rigida e, desi n-am suspensie sport..
am mai mers acum o sapt cu un prieten cu un 325 E46 sa-si scota azotul din roti din cazua rigiditatii asta.. eu am crezut ca e el nebun, dar am mers si eu cu masina si era rupere. are si suspensie sport (packet M)...

la voi cum e?
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post Apr 18 2006, 05:32 PM
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biggrin.gif aaaaa deci asta era :retard:
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post Apr 18 2006, 05:34 PM
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??? :retard: :retard:
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post Apr 18 2006, 05:59 PM
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nu crezi ca are legatura cu presiunea?

90% din aer este azot biggrin.gif


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post Apr 18 2006, 06:10 PM
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nu.. cred :paranoid:
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post Apr 18 2006, 07:16 PM
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sau poate cu schimbarea cauciucurilor? inainte parca aveai 205/55?


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post Apr 18 2006, 07:25 PM
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aveam 205/50 de iarna.
sigur nu e de la roti, desi talonul e mai mic (tot 50 e, dar pe 195). repet, am mai mers cu masina unui prieten si la fel facea.
mersem cu masina aia si cu aer, cu aceiasi presiune si nu facea asa..
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post Apr 18 2006, 07:41 PM
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Am avut azot toata iarna.N-am simtit nici o diferenta.


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post Apr 18 2006, 08:18 PM
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concluzia e ca azotul se comprima mai greu decat aerul?


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post Apr 18 2006, 08:27 PM
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N-am observat nici o diferenta. Diferenta e din cauza marimii cauciucului.


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post Apr 18 2006, 08:53 PM
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nu crezi ca are legatura cu presiunea?


m-am uitat mai devreme si par cam moi.. deci nu e de la presiune! tongue.gif

eu pun pariu ca de la azot e.. am mers cu aceiasi masina cu azot si fara si chiar din dreapta am simtit diferenta..
in fine.. poate sunt eu mai sensibil biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2006, 09:28 PM
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ursul era oricum foaaarte rigid. o sa vedem la pufi in curind wink.gif

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post Apr 18 2006, 09:35 PM
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nu crezi ca are legatura cu presiunea?


m-am uitat mai devreme si par cam moi.. deci nu e de la presiune! tongue.gif

eu pun pariu ca de la azot e.. am mers cu aceiasi masina cu azot si fara si chiar din dreapta am simtit diferenta..
in fine.. poate sunt eu mai sensibil biggrin.gif


Nu are ABSOLUT nici o influenta azotul asupra rigiditatii. Se comprima si se dilata la fel ca si aerul.
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Nu are ABSOLUT nici o influenta azotul asupra rigiditatii. Se comprima si se dilata la fel ca si aerul.

Pai atunci care-i explicatia ca se foloseste si azotul pt. a umfla rotile, cand cel mai simplu e sa se foloseasca doar aer?


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post Apr 19 2006, 12:10 AM
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ati vazut voi vre-o butelie de azot lichid pe la vre-o vulcanizare ???biggrin.gif

sry parca aerul are 78% azot?


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post Apr 19 2006, 12:22 AM
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lichid? pt ce?
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post Apr 19 2006, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE (florin83)
aveam 205/50 de iarna.
sigur nu e de la roti, desi talonul e mai mic (tot 50 e, dar pe 195).  repet, am mai mers cu masina unui prieten si la fel facea.  
mersem cu masina aia si cu aer, cu aceiasi presiune si nu facea asa..


talonul nu e mai mic, e la fel, latimea e mai mica :nod: ...si sa stii ca s-ar putea sa fie de la cauciucuri, sa fie un pic mai tari si din aceasta cauza sa ti se pare masina mai rigida..azotul nu are nici o legatura cu taria suspensiei, poate doar daca ti-a bagat o presiune fantastica, dar nu cred....un exemplu iti dau chair la mine la masina...luni am fost si am schimbat cauciucurile(luasem niste cauciucuri Fate de la Autosoft 205/50) masina era rigida, tremura cand treceam de 80km/h, cereau multe grame de plumb la echilibrat etc...o tzeapa de cauciucuri, scumpe si proaste si m-am dus si le-am schimbat cu unele noi noute 205/45 Tyfoon si am bagat azot si crede-ma ca acum masina e mai putin rigida decat cu cele dinainte desi am talon de 45).. smile.gif


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post Apr 19 2006, 08:44 AM
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oricum de la azot nu e sigur... smile.gif


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post Apr 19 2006, 09:43 AM
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azotul nu prea ingheata cu una cu 2 iar aerul care il bagi contine umiditate


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post Apr 19 2006, 12:14 PM
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Nu are ABSOLUT nici o influenta azotul asupra rigiditatii. Se comprima si se dilata la fel ca si aerul.

Pai atunci care-i explicatia ca se foloseste si azotul pt. a umfla rotile, cand cel mai simplu e sa se foloseasca doar aer?

E simplu : sa-ti ia ochii si banii laugh.gif

Se zice ca azotul ar avea avantajul ca protejeaza jentile si cauciucul ca nu contine asa multi vapori de apa ca aerul din atmosfera.
Se mai zice ca ar avea nu stiu cum moleculele de trec mai greu prin cauciuc si cica se pierde mai greu presiunea.
Singurul lucru cert este ca nu intretine arderea si de aceea se foloseste la anvelopele de avioane.
Si eu am azot si evident ca nu am observat absolut nici o diferenta ...
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