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post Apr 8 2016, 04:06 PM
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Dupa investigatii si pareri pe un alt topic , va prezint E39 achizitionat de mine.
E un break, e 2.0d cel pacatos cu pompa Bosch VP44, nu era cea mai ieftine si nici cea mai buna, dar e a mea si imi place smile.gif

Niste poze:


Motor e injectie directa dar nu common rail din ce imi dau seama.
Masina am cumparat-o ca masina de lucru (ne mutam la casa, o sa am de carat, dus copii la scoala) dar si de concedii in tara.

Partea buna ar fi ca lista de optiuni are aproate tot ce mi s-a parut util, doar perdelutele spate lipsesc.
Am cumparat-o ieri din Ploiesti, pe drum spre Bucuresti a mers bine, dar mi s-a parut prea lent in oras. Azi am verificat vacuum la actuator de la turbina, si avea furtun crapat. Mai aveam de la E12 o bucata noua, acuma masina pare cam ce trebuie sa fie, adica lenta dar nu prea lenta, vibreaza ralantiu dar nu prea rau, si este foarte confortabil din cauza cauciucuri 15/205/15 si nu in utimul rand din cauza amortizoarele uzate. Pana si scaune mi se par foarte confortabile, chiar daca sunt 'sport'. Am impresie ca merg pe un nor. Are si un filtru de particule DPF pentru circulatie in unele orasele Germane unde nu e voie fara.

In acte apara un singur proprietar din 2007 (cand a fost vandut prin BMW SH) , un nene nascut in '49. Nu prea a tinut masina curata, in interior (desi spalata) si pe exterior se vad urme de multe mizerie acumulata in timp.

De remediat la prima strigare:
- Furtunase vacuum turbina, cele invelite in panza erau coapte si rupta, am inlocuit, pare ok. Intrebare: pe ralantiu daca desfac vad ca se misca actuatorul. Adica, mecanism e activat la ralantiu. Asa trebuie?
- Curatat EGR. Este foarte imputit. Dar inca se misca, la ralantiu se deschide, cand scot vacuum se inchide.
- Verificat / inlocuit termostatele. Azi la 16 grade pe DN la mers prin localitatiile acul a coborat spre liniuta de sub jumatate. Sau e normal asa?
- Verificat prindere toba, la 800-900rpm bate ceva.
- Oglinda stanga nu rabateaza electric si stica nu e bine prinsa.
- De verificat inifltrare de apa in portbagaj, e o problema la Touring si cred ca a mea nu face exceptia positiva.
- Inlocuit cheder usa soferului care e uzat ca la aproate toate E39, inlocuit suport/maner mana de pe usa care e crapat.

O sa cumpar si un aparat de diagnoza, mi-e rusine sa afla si altii cati km si ce bube mai are smile.gif
Momentan nu fac decat strictul necesat, dupa ce fac CIV mai vad.

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Type DR71
Model 520d - EUR
Development Code E39 (2)
Chassis TOUR
Steering LL
Doors 5
Engine M47
Displacement 2.00
Power 100
Drivetrain HECK
Transmission MECH
Color Titansilber Metallic - 354
Upholstery Stoff Rips Diagonal/anthrazit - F4AT
Production Plant DINGOLFING
Production Date 2002-09-30

Standard Equipment
470 Child Seat Isofix Attachment Kindersitzbefestigung Isofix
520 Foglights Nebelscheinwerfer
548 Speedometer With Kilometer Reading Kilometertacho
851 Language Version German Sprachversion Deutsch

Options
235 Trailer-hitch With Removable Head Anhaengerkupplung,kopf Abnehmbar
249 Multi-function For Steering Wheel Multifunktion Fuer Lenkrad
255 Sports Leather Steering Wheel Sport-lederlenkrad
354 Green Stripe Windscreen Gruenkeil-frontscheibe
386 Roof Rail Dachreling
403 Glas Roof, Electric Glasdach, Elektrisch
423 Floor Mats, Velour Fussmatten In Velours
428 Warning Triangle Warndreieck
430 Int/ext Rr Vw Mirror W Aut Anti-dazzle Innen-/aussenspiegel Aut.abblendend
481 Sport Seats F Driver/front Passenger Sportsitze Fuer Fahrer/beifahrer
494 Seat Heating F Driver/front Passenger Sitzheizung Fuer Fahrer/beifahrer
500 Headlight Washer Sys/intensive Cleaning Scheinw.waschanl./intensivreinigung
508 Park Distance Control (pdc) Park Distance Control (pdc)
521 Rain Sensor Regensensor
522 Xenon Light Xenon-licht
534 Automatic Air Conditioning Klimaautomatik
555 On-board Computer Bordcomputer
650 Cd Player Cd-laufwerk
661 Radio Bmw Business Radio Bmw Business
725 Premium Package Basispaket
801 Germany Version Deutschland-ausfuehrung
863 Europe/dealer Directory Service Kontakt-flyer Europa
879 German / On-board Documentation Deutsch / Bordliteratur
970 Buisness Package Businesspaket

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post Apr 8 2016, 04:25 PM
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Azi la 16 grade pe DN la mers prin localitatiile acul a coborat spre liniuta de sub jumatate. Sau e normal asa?

Si al meu de pe la 15 grade in jos, la croaziera la orice viteza, se raceste spre linia de sub jumate. Dar nu scade sub ea. Nu stiu cate linii ai tu sub jumate, la mine e una singura (deci la sfert).
In oras sta fix pe jumatate chiar si cu AC-ul.
Iti ziceam si de testul de zilele trecute, la 20 grade afara, mers mai tarisor temperatura pe jumate. Mers la 80-100km/h temperatura scade nitel sub jumate. Dat drumul la caldura in masina (31 grade), scade temperatura motorului pana spre albastru.


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post Apr 8 2016, 04:29 PM
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Asa de economica sa fie?
Cu clima pornit sta un pic mai sus, si asta e de adaugat la lista de verificare:
- Ventilator electric nu porneste cand merge compresor AC cum era la E32. E normal sau e ars ceva?


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post Apr 8 2016, 05:13 PM
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am eu o idee de upgrade biggrin.gif
http://olx.ro/oferta/motor-3-0d-bmw-tip-m5...html#617dac57bc

la modul 'serios' (ghilimele pt. ca de ce ar fi o gluma sa-i pui 3.0d? biggrin.gif) s-o stapanesti sanatos, defectele enumerate mi se par relativ minore.
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post Apr 8 2016, 06:16 PM
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Mereu sunt tentante motorizari mai mari, dar eu voiam ceva economic de uz zilnic si am de gand sa ma abtin. Poate o resoftare, dar asta doar dupa ce am verificat mai bine motorul si anexele. Pentru senzatii tari mai avem alte vehicule in familia smile.gif
Defectele minore sunt la suprafata, om vedea ce sa mai ascunde mai adanc.


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post Apr 11 2016, 11:03 AM
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San log cu BMW scanner, dupa mers un pic cu erori stersi anterior la DDE. Cel de PDC confirm, acuma ce ploua nu mai merge. Cand era cald era totul ok.

CODE
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BMW Scanner v1.4.0.6 (24.05.2008) - P.A.Soft, 2008  HW: V144Bn9                                   Time: 11:34:54 AM 4/11/2016
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                          ZCS coding : /-------- IKE --------\ /-------- EWS --------\
                             Chassis :  E39                     E39
                               Model :  520d                    520d
                            Type key :  DR71                    DR71
                              Engine :  M47D20                  M47D20
                             Gearbox :  Manual                  Manual
                                 VIN :  GV67282                 WBADR71040GV67282
                              ZCS GM :  5D710000-F              5D710000-F
                              ZCS SA :  200008000D3407A4-B      200008000D3407A4-B
                              ZCS VN :  1010023883-J            1010023883-J


# SCAN START
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Unit      BMWTNR     HW  SW-FSW       CI  DI    BI/VI  Date    Odometer    VIN                ADFG     Algorithm
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DDE   ->  7.786.887  52  N5           01  12    40     82/01   -           unknown            820CB8   DDE3.0 M47
EWS   ->  6.905.666  03  08           81  81    07     36/02   266597 km   WBADR71040GV67282  FFFFFF   EWS3
ABS   ->  6.756.342  53  03           09  11    3C     17/00   -           -                  -        ABS/ASC 5.7
A/C   ->  6.916.641  60  63           03  50    10     39/02   -           -                  017282   IHKA E39 09/2000
SRS   ->  6.919.789  03  37           12  09    00     38/02   -           GV67282            000000   MRS4
IKE   ->  6.914.882  19  15           12  09    12     38/02   266601 km   GV67282            000015   M35080 - 1 (IKI)
LCM   ->  6.915.919  02  43           19  13    00     39/02   266600 km   GV67282            -        HC11PH8 - 1 (LCM3)
ZKE   ->  6.922.152  21  24           05  22    E9     39/02   -           -                  FF7282   ZKE3 GM1
MFL   ->  0.000.000  01  10           00  03    78     00/00   -           -                  -        MFL2
PDC   ->  6.921.414  01  17           03  01    01     37/02   -           -                  017282   PDC E38/E39/E46/E53
AIC   ->  6.923.954  40  32           02  10    00     39/02   -           -                  007282   RLS
RAD   ->  6.921.960  45  50           01  36    11     29/02   -           -                  007282   Radio ZIS/BM/MIR
SZM   ->  8.373.715  23  F8           01  10    78     37/02   -           -                  000000   SZM E38
MID   ->  6.914.590  43  22           00  02    05     20/03   -           -                  000320   MID E38/E39/E53/L30
STH   ->  8.387.103  01  17           01  01    0A     37/02   -           -                  007282   STH E38/E39/E46/E53
LRA   ->  8.375.964  D1  05           03  01    05     37/02   -           -                  BFFFFF   LWR2A


# ERRORS IN UNITS
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Unit      BMWTNR     HW  SW-FSW       ERRORS / SHADOW-MEMORY
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DDE   ->  7.786.887  52  N5           no errors / 1 error  
EWS   ->  6.905.666  03  08           no errors            
ABS   ->  6.756.342  53  03           3 errors            
A/C   ->  6.916.641  60  63           no errors            
SRS   ->  6.919.789  03  37           no errors / 1 error  
IKE   ->  6.914.882  19  15           4 errors            
LCM   ->  6.915.919  02  43           no errors / no errors
ZKE   ->  6.922.152  21  24           5 errors  / 6 errors
MFL   ->  0.000.000  01  10           no data              
PDC   ->  6.921.414  01  17           1 error              
AIC   ->  6.923.954  40  32           no errors            
RAD   ->  6.921.960  45  50           no errors            
SZM   ->  8.373.715  23  F8           2 errors  / 1 error  
MID   ->  6.914.590  43  22           1 error              
STH   ->  8.387.103  01  17           no errors            
LRA   ->  8.375.964  D1  05           no errors / no errors


# ERRORS DETAILS - DTC(hex)/PARAM(hex)
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DDE   ->  Shadow-memory:
          08/08 - Glow-plug system

ABS   ->  3A/01 - CAN EGS1 message error
          4B/01 - CAN NMOT error
          0E/01 - Valve-relay error

SRS   ->  Shadow-memory:
          50/20 - Power supply, undervoltage

IKE   ->  BF/88 - Internal fault, EEPROM checksum, coding incorrect/incomplete
          92/82 - Gong tone (T1)
          91/82 - Gong tone (T2)
          8B/82 - Gong tone (T3)

ZKE   ->  94/22 - DWA-LED: open circuit or cable DWAL, KL30
          7E/09 - Sunroof switch or connections defective
          5E/01 - Central locking mechanism defective, passenger's door
          5D/01 - Central locking mechanism defective, driver's door
          02/03 - Fuse interior lights
          Shadow-memory:
          93/3F - Power up from the GM III
          80/3F - DWA-Alarm: Terminal R
          83/0F - DWA-Alarm: door contact, driver's door
          94/2D - Power up from the driver's door module
          95/22 - Power up from the passenger's door module
          86/01 - DWA-Alarm: door contact, rear, passenger's side

PDC   ->  17/88 - Converter, front centre right

SZM   ->  00/07 - Terminal 30 not present
          07/01 - Heating surface Seat heating left, Open circuit
          Shadow-memory:
          17/01 - Lower voltage recognised

MID   ->  03/21 - No valid status response of TELEPHONE


# SCAN END
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Unit      BMWTNR     HW  SW-FSW       CI  DI    BI/VI  Date    Odometer    VIN                ADFG     Algorithm
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DDE   ->  7.786.887  52  N5           01  12    40     82/01   -           unknown            820CB8   DDE3.0 M47


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post Apr 11 2016, 12:29 PM
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Deci km sunt dati cu doar 40000 inapoi.

Eroarea Glow Plug System o am si eu


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post Apr 11 2016, 12:50 PM
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Pai, nu, doar in anunt e o mentiune de 226k, au gresit anunt intentionat sau nu. pe masina absolut tot (inclusiv bord) arata 266k. Daca au dat inapoi kilometraj, au facut o treaba buna. oricum pentru 40.000 nu cred ca s-au obosit.
Eroare Glow Plug System e in shadow, nu e o eroare curenta sau grava. Om vedea.
Nu stiu ce sa zic de erori la ABS, in legenda de scanner arate 2 tipuri de erori posibile, fie marcat cu rosu (prezent) fie marcat cu galben (din trecut) si cele de ABS sunt gri. Nu am nici un martor aprins, si pana si ASC functioneaza.


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sa-l stapanesti cu bine Bart, dar pune si niste poze cu el smile.gif


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Sunt poze, nu le vedeti?


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QUOTE (bartro @ Apr 11 2016, 01:50 PM) *
Pai, nu, doar in anunt e o mentiune de 226k, au gresit anunt intentionat sau nu. pe masina absolut tot (inclusiv bord) arata 266k. Daca au dat inapoi kilometraj, au facut o treaba buna. oricum pentru 40.000 nu cred ca s-au obosit.
Eroare Glow Plug System e in shadow, nu e o eroare curenta sau grava. Om vedea.
Nu stiu ce sa zic de erori la ABS, in legenda de scanner arate 2 tipuri de erori posibile, fie marcat cu rosu (prezent) fie marcat cu galben (din trecut) si cele de ABS sunt gri. Nu am nici un martor aprins, si pana si ASC functioneaza.

doar ce e cu rosu e de luat in considerare ,restul ignore.


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smile.gif Sa-l stapanesti sanatos si sa ai bafta de el! Exact ce recomanda docturu', dupa o anumita varsta! smile.gif E39 2.0d! Ceva de genul asta am pierdut eu inainte sa i-au A6-le... Nu m-am miscat suficient de repede!

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Foarte faina masinul, sa-l stapanesti sanatos!

Despre apa, stiu ca nu se aplica la tine, dar eu problema cu electroventilatorul, sta apa tot timpul cu 1mm peste mijloc si ramane pornit ev-ul chiar cu orele dupa ce ies din masina (poate confirma si halogen) iar eu am scos releul de "high ev" in fine, poate e diferit, dar cauta in cutia de sigurante un releu pentru turatie mare la ev si turatie joasa, da-le cu wd si vezi ce iese, la mine a mers, desi.. sincer e cam dubios, uneori merge uneori nu. Deci banui ca nu-s doar contactele de la relee, am eu banuieli, am sa revin dupa ce pun ac-ul inapoi, ca deja a venit caldura.


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Merși

Mai scrie lumea pe net ca fan pornește doar īn condițiile anume de căldură, ac, ne e ca la e32. Acuma sunt īn phoenix, arizona, cānd mă īntorc caut releu si dau comanda de acolo, să văd dacă e funcțional fan.


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Felicitari pentru masina, dupa ce ii rezolvi problemele probabil o sa fie o masina excelenta de drumuri lungi.


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N-ar fi mai simplu sa pui releul de la masina lui TiL? E acelasi motor, nu? (doar pentru proba)

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E o idee. Eu inca nu mi-am batut capul cu ventilatorul, habar n-am daca a pornit vre-odata sau nu.
Sau... am electroventilator? Si vasc?

Se pare ca am dat degeaba capacele alea de la motor, n-am studiat nimic.


Dar presupun ca totu-i ok, din moment ce am mers deja cu AC pornit in Bucuresti si temperatura n-a sarit de jumatate. Singura observatie e ca pe racoare la drum lung temperatura scade sub jumate; asta are logica, dieselul nu produce prea multa caldura si caloriferul din interior face fata.


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Eu n-am experienta cu diesel, la benzina stiu ca dupa ce se incalzeste, chiar si la drum lung la -10grade imi arata jumatate. Si am citit undeva tot aici, acum foarte multi ani, un comentariu care spunea acelasi lucru, ca temperatura trebuie sa ramana pe mijloc tot timpul, acolo e regimul normal de functionare (la benzina). Nu stiu cum afecteaza asta ce citeste computerul si face managementul motorinei, poate ridica/scade putin consumul? Pe de alta parte voi sunteti cu turbo, deja ma depaseste mellow.gif


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post Apr 15 2016, 01:37 PM
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Eu vad lucrurile mai simplu:
Motorul diesel are randament mare => caldura degajata mai putina decat la benzinar
Iarna caldura degajata e folosita cam in egala masura ca sa incalzesti habitaclul, plus pierderile in atmosfera - blocul motor se raceste putin si cu aerul din afara. Acum inteleg dubele cu carton in bot iarna.

Are sens. Gandeste-te ca la croaziera cu 100km/h consuma cam 4l/100km. Adica 4l motorina arsa intr-o ora. Daca dai foc la 4 litri de motorina, obtii suficienta caldura ca sa-ti mentii caldura timp de o ora in masina, plus pierderile de caldura din blocul motor direct in aer (care nu-s mici, la 100km/h). E cam la limita. De-aia nu ai nevoie sa se deschida termostatul.
In plus, daca-mi amintesc bine, caldura degajata de motorina arsa in motor e mai putina decat cea arsa in aer liber, pentru ca o buna parte se transforma in lucru mecanic in motor (avem acolo niste dilatari dupa explozie, dilatarile de gaze produc racire).

Ma intreb cum or sta cu caldura iarna aia cu motor de 1.3 diesel. Au webasto?


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