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post Nov 14 2005, 12:12 PM
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parerea mea este ca e un picut mai putin fun fata de actualul e30 dar, interiorul este usor de demontat si mai frumos parerea mea , la motor se umbla usor, de garnitura aia stiu ca stii... biggrin.gif ,


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post Nov 14 2005, 12:45 PM
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am gasit o pisica promitatoare, 318is din 1994
Mi-ai adus aminte, cand umblam prin 1999 - 2000 sa-mi iau BMW, E36 318is era unul dintre modelele care ma interesau cel mai tare. Din pacate, pe atunci era prea scumpa fata de buget.
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post Nov 14 2005, 01:17 PM
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este foarte puturoasa.

cati bani cere pe ea?


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post Nov 14 2005, 02:13 PM
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mah nu stiu ce bestie e 318is pe urs.. eu am avut pisca tot 318 is si era super putoare.

in comparatie cu alte masini pe care le-am avut .

nu numai ca e putoare dar si consuma cat porcu, da o tura cu a lu mikilol sa vezi.

nu stiu ce dif avea a mea .. probabil ca daca ii puneam un 4.10 ar fi fost ceva mai vioaie.
raman la parerea ca numai bmw-urile in 6 se comporta destul de bine (fara e30 m3)


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post Nov 15 2005, 07:33 AM
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Date tehnice 318is 1994:
Tip motor: M42 B18 ( in 1995 au pus M44 B19 pe 318is) motorul de pe E30 318is, 16V, 2 axe cu came, 1796 cmc, 103 kW(140 CP)/ 6000 rpm, 175 Nm/ 4500 rpm, Bosch DME M1.7
Performante: 0-100 km/h - 10.2sec Vit max: 213 km/h
Raporturi cutie:
I -4.23:1
II.-2.52:1
III.-1.66:1
IV.-1.22:1
V.-1.00:1
Raport de compresie : 10:1 (e singurul motor 1.8 care are rap asta in afara de M3 care are 10.1:1â€Ķin rest incls. M44 au intre 9 si 8 )
Diferential autoblocant : 3.45:1 ( cel mai smecher de pe E36)
Consum: urban-10.9 mixt-7.7 extra-urban-6.4
Avantaje: plaja de cuplu : 2500-5000 rpm, datorita celor 2 clape de admisie masina asigura un confort si randament maxim la sub/supraturareâ€Ķ.adica mergi linistit la 40km/h in a V-a fara sa trepidezeâ€Ķd’asemenea daca esti subturat si o calci brusc, raspunsul motorului e f prompt, consum redus de combustibil
Masina mea de exemplu a implinit frumoasa varsta de 260.000km si iti garantez ca multe bmw nu treceau tefere prin ce a trecut motoru asta â€Ķeste f rezistent si fiabil..acum imi consuma vara in oras mers lejer 9.5l iar iarna tot in oras 11.2lâ€Ķin afara vreo 7.5lâ€Ķconsumul de ulei acum e in jur de 200g/1000km
Probleme generale (90% sufera de aceste pr)
1. intinzatorul hydraulic de lant (la distributie): daca scade niv uleiului mult acesta se gripeaza f usor si se blocheaza pe pozitia inchisâ€Ķlantul in timp se largeste si pinioanele se ascutâ€Ķsimptome: la turatii mici si ralanti bate lantul in capacul de culbutoriâ€Ķsolutie: schimbarea intinzatorului cat mai repede ca sa nu fi nevoit sa schimbi tot ansamblul de distributie. Eu am schimbat la a mea (toata distributia!!) si m-a costat 250euro piesele (luate de la Filaret) si 2mil manoperaâ€Ķintinzatorul e doar 50 euro.
2. fluctuatii la ralanti se datoreaza exclusive regulatorului de aer care este plin de uleiâ€Ķ( o sa explic in alt post dc se murdareste ala de ulei si nu mai gestioneaza bine debitul de aer ) e un defect de pr al motorului din fabrica. Remediul: n-are rost sa cumperi unu nou, intr-o luna va face la fel, tot ce trebuie sa faci este sa-l dai jos si sa-l curetziâ€Ķva merge normalâ€Ķdar operatia trebuie repetata periodic.
3. garniture capacului de culbutoriâ€Ķpt fiecare incinta a bujiei exista o garnituraâ€Ķin timp exista posibilitatea ca atunci cand scoti o bujie sa fie plina de uleiâ€Ķnu sarii sa-i faci setu motorâ€Ķhihiâ€Ķintai schimba-i garniture de capac..se mai intampla sa nu mai etanseze cum trebuie si sa permita uleiului sa ajunga in incinta bujiei.
Cam astea sunt pr majore ale unu 318isâ€Ķ.inca o chestiune perfect normala este prezenta urmelor de ulei in zona clapelor de admisie care se datoreaza unui furtun care pleaca din capacul de culbutori si intra in aceea zona de admisieâ€Ķcare produce vap de uleiâ€Ķasa ca daca dai burduful jos de la debitmetru si gasesti urme de ulei in galerie e normalâ€Ķmotorul e okâ€Ķtrust meâ€Ķacest furtun a fost scos de nemti pe M44 (dupa el iti dai seama ce motor e pe masina ) pt ca provoca probleme â€Ķ
P.S.: Beck cand bagi piciorul in acc oricum consumul instantaneu creste si la 30%...pt cateva sec..e normalâ€Ķiar daca te referi la “acea turaâ€? de pe Kiseleffâ€Ķal meu ambreaj patina in draci atunci..o sa te mai dau o tura cand o sa fie ambreaju’ ok sa vedem cat de puturoasa mai e tongue.gif


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post Nov 15 2005, 07:52 AM
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ce mai zice si lumea pe net:
BMW described the 318is as a GTI for grown-ups. It was low priced by BMW standards and offered luxury, sportiness, style and value. The 318is was released in Australia in 1990, right near the end line for the E30 series. As in other countries, it was available only as a 2 door sedan with a manual transmission.
With traditional front engine and rear drive the little BMW is a joy to drive. The engine offers good performance with strong acceleration from 4000rpm to redline. The gear change is quick and precise. Handling is safe but sporting with minimal understeer and the steering offers good feel but is a little slow. Visibility to all corners of the car is excellent and parking is a breeze.

The 318is introduced a new engine, the M42, which was based on the 1.8 litre M40 cast-iron block as used in the 318i. The M42 differed most importantly by having twin cams and four valves per cylinder. To reduce reciprocating mass lightweight internal components were used such as pistons and con rods. The M42 also boasts a forged steel crankshaft and runs a 10:1 compression ratio instead of the M40's 8.8:1.

The M42 was touted as being a very low maintenance engine, courtesy of bucket-type tappets with hydraulic clearance adjustment and a dual-row timing chain (replacing the M40’s toothed belt).
There fuel injected intake system has a two stage throttle assembly to facilitate smooth driving at slower speeds. The first throttle butterfly opens for slow cruising, but when you accelerate hard the second throttle opens to allow much more airflow. Ignition is by an individual coil for each cylinder and all electronics including fuel injection are overseen by the latest (at the time) Bosch DME system.
The E30 318is had a short lifespan. It was discontinued when the E36 series was introduced in March 1991. An E36 318is arrived in 1992 and featured the same engine but with a variable length inlet tract. Further developments to the 318is line was a 1.9 litre engine, availability of the four door body, and the option of an automatic transmission.
In Service

The 318is has few common problems. The hydraulic lifters can become noisy with age and some specialists recommend an engine flush with each oil change to prevent this problem.

For the home mechanic the 318is is quite easy to work on being front engine and rear drive. The E30 series is very popular amongst enthusiasts and consequently there is much information and help at hand on the Internet.


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post Nov 15 2005, 09:34 AM
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so jaffar ... sa-l stapanesti sanatos


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post Nov 15 2005, 12:23 PM
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cat dai pe el?


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post Nov 15 2005, 04:48 PM
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gogu...te bagi la e36??? smile.gif


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post Nov 15 2005, 07:26 PM
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Am vrut si eu sa iau 318is e36 si am probat vreo 3 masini. La turatii moderate motorul nu lasa impresia ca ar fi teribil de sprinten. Abia pe la 4-5 mii de rpm se simte ceva.
318is sunt in general masini alergate, multe au fost luate de soferi care cautau senzatii tari la un pret mic, asa ca riscul ca masina sa fie deja obosita e ceva mai mare ca la alte modele.
Tot cautand am dat de 323i si dupa cum am pus piciorul pe acceleratie, m-a facut sa uit de 318is. :cool:
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post Nov 15 2005, 08:02 PM
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Tot cautand am dat de 323i si dupa cum am pus piciorul pe acceleratie, m-a facut sa uit de 318is.  :cool:


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post Nov 15 2005, 10:52 PM
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Jaffar,

Manualul meu zice ca la toate e36 cu catalizator trebuie benzina DIN EN 288, cifra octanica 95 (Euro Super). Motoarele au senzor de detonatie, deci merge si benzina de 91 (nu mi-e clar daca numai la alea fara catalizator sau si la alea cu). Performantele sunt calculate la benzina de 95. la 98 ar trebui sa creasca putin.
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post Nov 18 2005, 01:55 AM
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jaffar, incearca sa uiti de motor in 4 pe BMW
nu stiu cum e 318is pe e 36 dar am mers cu un 318is e30 si chiar nu mi-a zis nimic(acum stii si tu ca e 36 are vreo 150kg mai mult ca un urs)
daca vrei sa schimbi caruta, incearca si un 320 (e36) eventual cu vanos si o sa fi fff multumit, te asigur


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post Nov 18 2005, 11:47 AM
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Pana la urma iti iei 318is?
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post Nov 18 2005, 12:15 PM
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Cei cu motoare de 6 cilindri spun ca motoarele de 4 cilindri sunt puturoase. Probabil ca au dreptate.
Cei cu motoare de 8 cilindri spun ca, desi motoarele de 6 cilindri sunt demne de luat in seama, totusi nu se compara cu cele de 8 cilindri. Probabil ca au si ei dreptate.
Cei cu motoare de 12 cilindri nu pot decat sa zambeasca, privind la cei cu motoare de 4, 6 sau 8 cilindri. Sigur, au si ei dreptate.
Cei care au motoare supra-alimentate spun ca ...

Fiecare tip de BMW este destinat unui anumit target de clienti. In alegerea unui masini sunt multe alte criterii, in afara de performanta pura - altfel am merge toti motoare V12. Sigur ca, daca discutam despre putere bruta, un M42 nu prea are multe de spus in fata unui S62, de exemplu.
Dar 140CP din numai 1.8 litri este o performanta remarcabila. M42 este un motor excelent, in clasa lui. Iar costurile de intretinere ale unui 318is sunt evident mai mici - iti raman deci mai multi bani pentru a merge cu masina (deci, pentru placerea de a conduce...)
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Cei care au motoare supra-alimentate spun ca ...  

... ca ce? biggrin.gif


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post Nov 18 2005, 01:40 PM
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Cei care au motoare supra-alimentate spun ca ...  

... ca ce? biggrin.gif


Ca... le consuma prea multa benzina? biggrin.gif Sau ca au lag prea mare? :ninja:
Nush, zi tu ca tu ai turbo laugh.gif
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Cei cu motoare de 6 cilindri spun ca motoarele de 4 cilindri sunt puturoase. Probabil ca au dreptate.

Dar 140CP din numai 1.8 litri este o performanta remarcabila. M42 este un motor excelent, in clasa lui. Iar costurile de intretinere ale unui 318is sunt evident mai mici - iti raman deci mai multi bani pentru a merge cu masina (deci, pentru placerea de a conduce...)


o mie de vorbe nu fac un ban, mai bine o rogi pe miki sa iti dea masina o tura... o sa iti dai seama imediat ce vreau sa spun.
poate 140 de cai ti se par interesanti pe hartie.. dar cind e sa pleci mai tare de la semafor o sa observi ca cei 140 de cai alearga pe la 6000 de ture... si pana ajungi acolo o sa te multumesti cu vre-o 70-80


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post Nov 18 2005, 04:50 PM
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