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florin83
post Jan 10 2006, 04:52 PM
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eu am votat aspirat..
majoritatea masinilor turbo pe care le-am condus au fost diesel, una singura pe benzina (audi s6).. la cele diesel nu mi s-a parut asa dernajant lagul, dar la s6 era chiar fff dernajat.. pana la ~3000 ture mergea ca naiba, cred ca il faceam si eu cu a mea :unibrow: , dupa care, pana la 7000 ture rupea pamantul ...
prefer una cu motor mai mare aspirat care sa traga uniform de la relanti pana la rosu..
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post Jan 10 2006, 05:08 PM
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ce spui tu acolo nu este lag turbo.
asa sunt masinile turbo, dar pt ca tragea f bine dupa 3 k nu inseamna ca pana in 3 k nu trage, e doar impresia ta

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post Jan 10 2006, 05:14 PM
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Aspirat, asta din experienta mea cu 2,5 si 1,8 benzine aspirate si 2,4 turbodiesel. Td-ul mi se pare cam imprevizibil, inca nu stiu sigur cand o sa intre turbina si mi-e cam frica sa ma bag in depasiri. In plus, nu-mi place sa retrogradez, dieselului nu prea-i plac turatiile mari. Poate ca o benzina turbo m-ar face sa ma razgandesc, dar e putin probabil.
Ideal: benzina cu cat mai multi cilindri. Oare cum o fi cu un V8 sau V10 sau V12? :crybaby:


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post Jan 10 2006, 05:16 PM
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Eu indecis ma gandesc cum o merge un 850 CSI dar imi amintesc de Alpina biturbo si nu stiu ce sa votez :crybaby:Later edit :baga si tu Florine ambele in poll sa votez si eu ceva sad.gif


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post Jan 10 2006, 05:18 PM
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am votat TURBO,
dar cred ca era mai indicata comparatia : aspirat / supraalimentat ....
ca turbo este doar o modalitate de supraalimentare ....


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post Jan 10 2006, 05:18 PM
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stiu ce e, nu m-am exprimat bine..
o calcam si dupa 1-2sec se ducea.. smile.gif

la dieseluri nu mi s-a parut asa mare lag-ul
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post Jan 10 2006, 05:20 PM
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Depinde si ce vrei de la masina, comportament bun si previzibil pe viraje sau sa fuga? Ca td-ul asta e groaznic pe viraje, dar la viteze de peste 100 km/h trage de zici ca-i 2.5-ul benzina care are vreo 35 cai in plus.


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post Jan 10 2006, 05:22 PM
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Ia ghici biggrin.gif tongue.gif :ninja:


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post Jan 10 2006, 06:44 PM
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am votat.......... ia ghiciti? :unibrow: tongue.gif


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post Jan 10 2006, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (florin83)
stiu ce e, nu m-am exprimat bine..
o calcam si dupa 1-2sec se ducea.. smile.gif

la dieseluri nu mi s-a parut asa mare lag-ul

asta e specific turbinelor cu turbina mica si compresor mare (gen hybrid T3/T4), sau daca intercoolerul este cam mare - dureaza ceva timp pana turbina ajunge la regim (de multe ori la peste 120.000rpm) sau pana se comprima aerul din zona tampon (intercooler) .. acele 1-2s de care vb
motorul diesel are oricum cuplu mare in ture joase, asa ca nu are nevoie de prea mult boost pana la 3.000rpm - dupa aia incepe sa-si faca si turbina treaba ..


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post Jan 10 2006, 07:50 PM
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la diesel intra mult mai devreme 1700-2000
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post Jan 10 2006, 08:33 PM
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Eu am votat cu supraalimentatele chiar daca Bmw nu obisnueste sa foloseasca acest sistem la benzina , la diesel in momentul de fata este indispensabila supraalimentarea ca altfel.........


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post Jan 11 2006, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (io's)
am votat.......... ia ghiciti? :unibrow:  :p

pai tu n-ai de ce sa te plangi biggrin.gif ai o mana si ceva de cilindri, aproape o galetusha capacitate cilindrica si turbina pe deasupra...


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post Jan 14 2006, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE ("TiL)
pai tu n-ai de ce sa te plangi biggrin.gif ai o mana si ceva de cilindri, aproape o galetusha capacitate cilindrica si turbina pe deasupra...

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