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post Nov 25 2006, 12:24 PM
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Stim cu totii celebrele trei liniute ale ceasului de temperatura. De asemeni mai stim ca in mod normal acul trebuie sa stea cam pe mijloc, intre prima si a treia linie, cit mai aproape de a doua. Dar ce semnificatie au aceste linii in grade C?


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post Nov 25 2006, 06:57 PM
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Mijloc 90 de grade, prima linie inainte de jumate 60 de grade, a prima linie dupa jumate ~120.


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post Nov 26 2006, 03:23 PM
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Hm... deci la mine sta constant in 120-150grade apa? blink.gif

PS: Luciane stiu ca mi-ai explicat tu ce si cum pe acolo, dar cred ca o las asa peste iarna, prefer sa fie cat mai cald in masina tongue.gif


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post Nov 26 2006, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (xox @ Nov 26 2006, 03:23 PM) *
Hm... deci la mine sta constant in 120-150grade apa? blink.gif

PS: Luciane stiu ca mi-ai explicat tu ce si cum pe acolo, dar cred ca o las asa peste iarna, prefer sa fie cat mai cald in masina tongue.gif


adica tu preferi sa calezi motorul ca sa fie cald in masina ?!!!! wacko.gif
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post Nov 26 2006, 04:06 PM
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Sincer nu ma pricep asa bine, dar ce pot spune sigur este ca desi temperatura apei este ridicata, nici un piston nu se gripeaza in cilindri. La acceleratie masina raspunde prompt, fara semne ca ar vrea sa incetineasca.

Ce banui eu si ce-mi spunea si Lucian e ca undeva, ceva e posibil sa fie legat aiurea la sistemul de incalzire(in momentul in care dau drumul la caldura in masina, fara sa pornesc neaparat ventilatorul, temperatura la apa scade).

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post Nov 26 2006, 04:44 PM
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mai, eu nu ma consider in masura sa dau prea multe sfaturi tehnice, dar cred ca nu ar fi rau sa incerci sa rezolvi problema si sa nu lasi sa treaca iarna. ar fi pacat sa ajungi sa mergi cu tramvaiul dupa ce ti-ai dorit asa de mult bmw. daca e doar ceva legat gresit, nu ar trebui sa te coste prea mult o punere in ordine.
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post Nov 26 2006, 05:38 PM
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Daca vrei sa mai mergi mult asa strange bani de acum de alt motor. Iti bati joc de masina. fight (12).gif


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post Nov 26 2006, 07:29 PM
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Aveti dreptate. Maine dimineata ma duc la un service sa-mi verific termostatul, si sa mai curat inca o data radiatorul.
316i, spuneai ca s-ar putea sa fie si vascul praf. Il verific tot in service sau exista vreo modalitate mai rapida?


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post Nov 26 2006, 11:31 PM
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Cand ajunge apa la jumate, tragi capota, iei o carpa mai groasa/ziar si incerci sa opresti elicea cu mana. Daca poti s-o opresti vascul e praf, daca nu, esti mandrul posesor al unui vasc bun. Ai grija cum bagi mana ca daca vascul e bun se invarte foarte tare poate iti lasi ceva p-acolo.


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Am incercat in seara asta cu jorjel. Am bagat o bucata de carton si s-a oprit foarte usor. Porneste el cum porneste apoi, dar .. Bon. Deci e dus vascul (vascocuplor, da?).


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post Nov 27 2006, 12:19 AM
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ai puso smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif nou e pe la un 100 euro... dar sh isi face banu...
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (xox @ Nov 26 2006, 11:48 PM) *
Am incercat in seara asta cu jorjel. Am bagat o bucata de carton si s-a oprit foarte usor. Porneste el cum porneste apoi, dar .. Bon. Deci e dus vascul (vascocuplor, da?).

Nu are mare treaba vascu,daca motorul se incalzeste in aglomeratie (mare rau adica mers 1-a 2-a) atunci poate e vascu daca se incalzeste si cand mergi constant cu 40 de ex atunci in proportie de 90% e radiatorul,sfatul meu e sa iei un radiator bun. smile.gif


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post Nov 27 2006, 12:20 PM
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Tudor, am mai discutat pe tema asta. Daca motorul se incalzeste si la drum lung, vascul nu are nici o treaba. Poate ca e dus, naiba stie, dar deocamdata problema cea mare e in alta parte. Ai curatat BINE radiatorul pe exterior, intre elementi, cu jet puternic dinspre motor spre fata masinii? Asta daca n-ai timp sa-l dai jos si sa-l rezolvi sub dush...


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post Nov 27 2006, 12:22 PM
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Poate sa-l curate cat vrea el,daca e dus nu are ce sa-i faca,al meu l-am curatat de m-au gasit dracii si facea la fel,asta e nu poti sa ai pretentia ca un radiator sa te tina 20 si ceva de ani.


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post Nov 27 2006, 12:45 PM
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Cu al tau era alta poveste. Era "barbierit" de ventilator. De fapt barbierit ar fi fost ok, dar el avea de fapt niste tablite indoite in asa fel ca blocau circulatia aerului printre elementi. Asta cam pe toata suprafata corespunzatoare elicii, daca-mi amintesc bine. Evident ca n-aveai ce face. Asta-i mult mai grav ca murdaria, ca nu se curata decat intr-un singur fel: iei si dai la o parte cu un varf de cutit sau altceva ascutit chestiile turtite. La radiatorul meu lucrul asta e posibil, chestiile alea se rup si se indeparteaza foarte usor, ramanand tablitzele din interior, care nu au fost indoite.
Dar e multa bataie de cap sa faci toata treaba asta... si tot nu iese cine-stie-ce.

In fine, la Tudor nu cred ca e cazul, n-am vazut portiuni semnificative turtite la el. Dar poate n-am vazut bine... Tudor?


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post Nov 27 2006, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (mertan @ Nov 27 2006, 12:19 AM) *
ai puso smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif nou e pe la un 100 euro... dar sh isi face banu...

Mai bine-i pun electroventilator cu termocupla...


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Am dat jos termostatul, pus la fiert, functioneaza. Ma duc sa dau jos radiatorul si-l pun la spalat. Din ce am vazut n-are bucati varza.
Am sa pun niste poze, dupa ce-l aduc.
Luciane, cum fac aerisirea dupa ce-l pun la loc?


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post Nov 27 2006, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (xox @ Nov 27 2006, 03:57 PM) *
Am dat jos termostatul, pus la fiert, functioneaza. Ma duc sa dau jos radiatorul si-l pun la spalat. Din ce am vazut n-are bucati varza.
Am sa pun niste poze, dupa ce-l aduc.
Luciane, cum fac aerisirea dupa ce-l pun la loc?



uite, a explicat sorin aici

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Sorin zice asa: Incepeti sa turnati antigelul in vasul de exapansiune pana cand incepe sa iasa pe la surubul de aerisire>

Acuma intrebarea vine: unde-i surubul de aerisire? Pe termostat eu nu-l am, am unul care-i jos sub radiator dar clar nu-i ala ca se specifica pe thread sa-l inchid la loc (evident curge tot daca-l las deschis). Am doar un furtun care iese din capacul vasului de expansiune.


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Tu ai vas de expansiune?


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