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Iulika0069
post Feb 28 2006, 08:28 PM
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Intrebarea e in primul rand pt E36, dar se poate extinde la toate modelele..
Ma intereasa pareri, fapte de opinie, link-uri.. orice informatie care sa ma lumineze
Unii zic ca nu conteaza ce ulei pui (75W90), nu e diferit de cel care se pune in diff-urile "normale"
Altii zic ca tre' sa scrie pe cutie "pt LSD"
Cativa ma indruma (corect biggrin.gif) catre "reprezentanta" BMW

So, care e raspunsu' corect?


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mertan
post Mar 3 2006, 08:05 AM
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am si io o intrebare. mai proasta.... de ce la toate bmweurile(majoritatea) sta apa la jumate? :ninja:
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post Mar 3 2006, 08:58 AM
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Previziunile se pare ca sunt din ce in ce mai "sumbre" biggrin.gif: diferentialul este mult mai lung decat cel stock! :unibrow:


Bun venit in familia celor cu diff lsd, cu raport sub 3,00... biggrin.gif


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post Mar 3 2006, 09:02 AM
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am si io o intrebare. mai proasta.... de ce la toate bmweurile(majoritatea) sta apa la jumate?  :ninja:


pt ca acolo e normal sa stea?

offtopic: hehe.. cati km arata bordul in poza "IMG_7020_1024x.jpg" 176.000
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post Mar 3 2006, 08:20 PM
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din contra.. cu un raport mic schimbi mai rar vitezele si consuma mai putin.. cu unul mare ai demaraj mai bun, viteza maxima mai mica si consum mai mare..


daca schimbi rar vitezele insemana ca ori turezi mai mult motorul ori ca il folosesti subturat si automat consuma mai mult... daca schimbi, sau mai exact esti nevoit sa schimbi mai des datorita raportului, cuplul care ajunge la roti e mai mare pe turatii mai joase si nu fortezi motorul in turatii mici deci automat consumi mai putin chiar daca schimbi mai des...
am citit pe un site ca ceea ce se numeste cuplu este influentat de toata transmisia intre motor si roti si in cazul a 2 motoare cu parametrii egali puse pe aceiasi masina va consuma mai putin cel cu cuplu mai mare... la noi rotile sunt identice, motorul e acelasi doar raportul e diferit si cred ca e diferit in directia in care o sa-i creasca omului consumul avand in vedere ca cuplul i-a scazut (chiar tu ai spus florine ca acum o sa aiba un timp mai prost la 0-100 si asta e datorita pierderii de cuplu)... daca vrea sa mentina timpul avut anterior la 0-100 trebuie sa schimbe rotile eventual sau sa traga o remapare...smile.gif oricum pariez ca ii creste consumul acum...
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post Mar 3 2006, 09:34 PM
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la drum intins o sa-i consume mai putin pentru ca o sa scada turatia motorului. Daca folosind diferentialul vechi, pentru a merge cu 120km/h avea nevoie sa tina motorul turat la x000 de ture cu noul diferential la aceeasi viteza, turometrul va indica y000 de ture, unde y<x.(Daca as fi continuat cu"un porumbel zboara cu o viteza..."obtineam o problema de fizica pentru clasa a 8-a. biggrin.gif )


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post Mar 3 2006, 09:38 PM
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W A F!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:


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post Mar 4 2006, 02:44 PM
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la viteza constanta consumul e mai bun acum intradevar dar in Bucuresti viteza contanta se mentine doar la 0 km/h, adica in parcare...smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2006, 08:10 PM
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Asta cu diferentialul scurt e valabila daca se merge legal biggrin.gif eu am trecut de la 3,46 la 4,10 daca se merge legal consumul e rezonabil,dar cine merge legal? :unibrow:


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post Mar 4 2006, 09:05 PM
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dar pana la urma... diferentialul open la ce este bun?
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post Mar 4 2006, 10:25 PM
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dar pana la urma... diferentialul open la ce este bun?

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post Mar 5 2006, 05:47 PM
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Sunt curios cat mi-ar cere pe un diff open de E36 "dezmembreri" gen M..TXA & co :dis:
Asa ca mai usor cu "fier veki", cred ca e minim 200-300 RON la baieti (chiar o sa caut, de curiozitate..)
Oricum il pastrez ca masura de siguranta in caz ca asta LSD pateste ceva

Legat de consum, am venit acum dela Predeal, am pus 14l la plecare - eram cam pe rosu, mult sub linia de 1/4 == 15l - si cand am ajuns in Buc inca nu ajunsese acul la 1/4
Estimez la undeva sub 8% (fata de 9 si ceva cat imi lua inainte), ceea ce e extraordinar, avand in vedere ca am mers in mare parte cu 150km/h (in afara), in localitati cu ~80km/h, iar pe Valea Prahovei cu 40-60 ca erau numai mocaiti

O sa incerc sa fac consumul cat mai corect (plin - plin), pana atunci insa e doar o "estimare"
Sunt curios daca o sa creasca consumul in oras, dar nu cred..

E destul de incomod sa faci depasiri mai in forta la 80-90, esti nevoit sa bagi a 2-a, dar te obisnuiesti smile.gif
La un moment dat am folosit chiar si tr. I din mers pela 25-30km/h, ca nu stiam daca o sa am timp cu a 2-a..

Dupa ce treci insa de 100 si ceva noile rapoarte chiar te ajuta (e mai simplu/repede sa skimbi 4-3 sau 3-4 decat 4-5 respectiv 5-4), plus ca - dupa cum ziceam - a 3-a e un pic mai scurta decat vekea a 4-a (170 vs 180), iar a 4-a o poti folosi si la 60-70, ceea ce nu prea era ok cu vekea a 5-a

Iar a 5-a e o dementa totala, masina trage frumos iar consumul instantaneu, dupa ce stabilizezi viteza, e intotdeauna sub 10, chiar si la 150-160km/h

Per ansamblu, in oras masina a pierdut din sportivitate, in afara insa a castigat, datorita noilor rapoarte (decalate) mai scurte!


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post Aug 1 2006, 10:19 PM
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ma-ti bagat in ceata de tot ! spuneti-mi daca vreau sa-l tin pe loc si sa se invirta amindoua rotile odata ce diferential am nevoie?
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post Aug 1 2006, 11:43 PM
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laugh.gif diferential normal e bun pt asta


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post Aug 1 2006, 11:44 PM
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sa dea cu o roata mai mult..
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post Aug 1 2006, 11:53 PM
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ma-ti bagat in ceata de tot ! spuneti-mi daca vreau sa-l tin pe loc si sa se invirta amindoua rotile odata ce diferential am nevoie?

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post Aug 2 2006, 07:33 PM
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pai diferential normal nu e bun deoarece din asta am si se invirte o singura roata !! exista diferential lsd pt urs?
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post Aug 2 2006, 11:41 PM
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LOL laugh.gif normal si exista si orice raport vrei sau aproape orice


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post Jan 7 2007, 09:12 PM
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Pot sa bag 75w85 API GL4 in LSD?


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In LSD se baga doar API GL5.


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revenind la diff-uri, azi am de gand sa montez un LSD de 2.65 pe masina, acum nu stiu cat am, dar e open, si o tine cam in ture afara (110 km/h 3000 RPM). Uleiul, am inteles ca trebuie API GL5 in diff, dar spuneti-mi va rog si pe unde gasesc asa ceva. La benzinarii, sau doar la dealeri?
Multumesc,va tin la curent cu schimbarile dupa montarea diff-ului nou .


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