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 May 9 2014, 01:36 PM
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Dellorto se cheama de fapt, dar nu cred ca-i mare imbunatatire, din ce am citit weber si pierburg faceau cele mai bune carburatoare. Solex... dunno. Eu am avut pierburg dar n-am avut si celelalte modele, deci n-am de unde sti.
Primul pas e sa trec de rar, mai departe daca tot ma apuc sa bag bani in ea probabil ca o sa iau ceva scump, nu mi-a placut niciodata injectia si daca tot am ocazia asta... why not? -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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May 9 2014, 01:47 PM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,891 Joined: 18-February 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 658 Car: E21 Engine: M10 1.6 90cp |
Pierburg-urile au in componenta multe piese care intr-adevar te ajuta sa scoti un consum mai mic, dar de asemenea, scade si fiabilitatea.
Dupa parerea mea weber-urile sunt cele mai reusite pentru ca sunt foarte simple. Asa in schimb, pentru ceea ce ai vrea sa faci, sa stii ca ai da un randament bun cu carburatoare de moto de minim 1000cmc... This post has been edited by 05aBi: May 9 2014, 01:49 PM -------------------- Baby Six
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May 9 2014, 02:50 PM
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 zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
QUOTE (xox @ May 9 2014, 02:36 PM)  Dellorto se cheama de fap da, s-a mancat un o. QUOTE (xox @ May 9 2014, 02:36 PM) din ce am citit weber si pierburg faceau cele mai bune carburatoare. Solex... dunno. Eu am avut pierburg dar n-am avut si celelalte modele, Parca pentru Dellorto DHLA se gaseste cea mai mare variatei de jicloare, sau filetul de la suruburi de reglaj era cel mai fin, si reglajele mai precise fata de Weber. Dar nu mai tin minte exact. Mikuni sunt facute dupa Solex (ma refer strict la cele bazate pe PHH) dar cu imbunatatiri la design. Solex PHH -simple, bunicele, dar cu probleme de uzura la axele de la clapete dupa zeci de ani. Weber DCOE are rulmenti la axele, parca. Weber are pretul lui, ca-i Weber. Nu as zice nu la niste Dellorto, nici Mikuni. Cu Solex m-am lamurit. QUOTE (05aBi @ May 9 2014, 02:47 PM) Asa in schimb, pentru ceea ce ai vrea sa faci, sa stii ca ai da un randament bun cu carburatoare de moto de minim 1000cmc... Nu stiu, m-as raporta mai degreaba la cp, la venturi. Si tot asa, are de facut niste galerii de admisie. Alea trebuie calculate, sa nu ai 130cp din M10 la 8000rpm. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
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May 9 2014, 03:31 PM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
Bart, sincer sa fiu m-as intoarce tot la Pierburg-ul care l-am avut inainte, ca-i stiu problemele. Gabi, nu m-a interesat niciodata consumul, doar sa functioneze asa cum a fost gandit.
Exista intotdeauna variatii pe aceeasi tema, de la stromberg la zenith (solex). Eu ca inginer nu pot sa nu iau in considerare performanta vs fiabilitate, pentru ca ma intereseaza rezultatul final, nu cat costa. DCOE-urile sunt discutabile, cred ca e ceva de preferinte personale aici. Pana la urma, eu nu caut cai, caut stabilitate. This post has been edited by xox: May 9 2014, 03:32 PM -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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May 9 2014, 03:49 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,891 Joined: 18-February 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 658 Car: E21 Engine: M10 1.6 90cp |
Intr-adevar, e putina bataie de cap cu carburatoarele de moto.. Admisiile trebuiesc facute, facute la un anumit unghi, jiglere schimbate ( sau injectoare, daca iti alegi injectie )...
Daca ai reusi sa gasesti un weber 32/36 ai face treaba buna, dar nici cu cel original nu imi e rusine, numai sa functioneze in parametri normali. -------------------- Baby Six
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May 9 2014, 04:01 PM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
Felul in care ai purtat discutie (referinta la solex-urile mele) m-a setat pe carburatoarele orizontale. Daca nu vrei batai de cap, e bun si carburatorul de Dacia, ma gandesc. E simplu si o ai deja pe motorul, daca am inteles bine. Nu pledez pentru nici o solutie anuma. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
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May 9 2014, 05:04 PM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
Da, asta era si ideea. Mi-ar place putina performanta in plus, dar sa fie oarecum echilibrata masina, per total.
Nu stiu cum sa explic. Teoretic as putea sa-i pun orice carb, practic e mai dificil. -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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May 9 2014, 05:13 PM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
Toate cele mentionate de mine au fost folosite la masini produse in serie.
Ca unele merg 10 ani fara nici un fel de reglaj, si la altele trebuie un reglaj odata pe, zic si eu, 10.000 de km, este relevant sau nu in functie de regim in care exploatezi tu masina. Nimic nu e alb, nimic nu e negru. Fara legatura neaparat cu tine, am mai observat ca Romanii le e frica de carburatoare. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
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May 9 2014, 05:15 PM
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Pentru ca la Dacia toata lumea le regla dupa ureche. Unii mai bine, altii mai putin bine.
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May 9 2014, 11:11 PM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
QUOTE (bartro @ May 9 2014, 06:13 PM) am mai observat ca Romanii le e frica de carburatoare. Poftim? http://bmwzone.ro/forums/index.php?showtopic=11510 Nu stiu cum e facut carburatorul asta de Tico, dar am vazut cateva rable unele pe GPL, toate pareau sa mearga foarte bine. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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May 10 2014, 01:11 PM
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Bart, nu mi-e frica deloc de carburatoare, eu chiar asta caut, urasc injectia. Un carburator bun dupa capul meu intotdeauna e mai bun decat o injectie, orice mi-ar zice oricine.
Intr'adevar la Dacie carburatoarele erau in balarii, ca nimeni nu schimba garnituri si tot timpul trebuiau reglate dupa uzura, e oarecum normal sa fi mers toate aiurea. Poate erau misconceptii la batrani, dar la noi nu cred ca se mai aplica. -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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May 11 2014, 07:04 AM
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 0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 3-September 07 From: socal Member No.: 1,120 Car: E34 Engine: M50B25TU |
eu imi amintesc ca dacia avea carburatoare bune
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May 11 2014, 01:26 PM
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Woohoo, now that's what I'm talkin' bout!
Acuma serios, nu stiu daca merita investitia daca e motorul original de Dacie. Dar apropos de asta, am sa pun poze cu o Dacie 1300 de la mine din targ, restaurata aproape 100%, o frumusete de masina! Motorul care l-am gasit pentru a mea e muci  Am trimis un mecanic sa-l inspecteze si mi-a zis ca-i zob, incepe sa ma descurajeze povestea asta  . Mai este unul singur in oras, dar tipul nu vrea sa renunte la el nici in ruptul capului 
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May 11 2014, 05:49 PM
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prima jucarie (~acum vreo 10 ani) a fost asta
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Jul 29 2014, 02:52 PM
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Well, se incheie din nou capitolul asta. Masina pleaca de la mine.
Viitorul proprietar are timp si resurse sa se ocupe de ea. Si garaj  Sa nu inchideti topic-ul, am sa mai pun update-uri despre masina. Intentionez sa tin legatura cu noul proprietar, inca tin la masina asta destul de mult. -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Jul 29 2014, 03:20 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 |
macar sa se apuce de ea sa nu ajunga la fier vechi.cineva cunoscut proprietarul?
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Jul 29 2014, 04:05 PM
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Nu ajunge la fier vechi, urmeaza s-o puna inapoi pe strada. Proprietarul nu-i pe forum, desi sper sa-si faca si el cont. Dunno.
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Nov 7 2014, 01:34 PM
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L-am luat inapoi pe bavarez, cat despre franceza... o pot vorbi dar se pare ca n-o pot conduce. C'est la vie. This post has been edited by xox: Nov 7 2014, 01:35 PM -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Nov 7 2014, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (xox @ Nov 7 2014, 01:34 PM) L-am luat inapoi pe bavarez, cat despre franceza... o pot vorbi dar se pare ca n-o pot conduce. C'est la vie. Lai luat intreg ?
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Nov 10 2014, 01:12 PM
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Nu e chiar intreg. Si nu gasesc nicaieri un motor de 1.8 carburatie (184VD) simt ca innebunesc >.<
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