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post May 7 2010, 08:24 PM
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Am avut un urs 1800 is si mergea rupea ,dar din pacate fac facultate la spiru haret la arhitectura unde se pierd note ,se platesc proiecte oricum ati prins ideea nu am avut banii sa bag in urs asa ca l am vandut unui baiat de pe forum (ce dor imi este de motorul ala auau)si acuma am luat alt urs dupa un an un e30 316 motor de pisicuta,merge super bine dar avand in vedere ca ursu va fi masina de duminica pt ca tocmai mi am cumparat un seat arosa diesel pt bucuresti ,ma gadensc sa dau motoru de pe urs pe un is si apoi sa i pun turbo sau pot sa iau un motor de bmw seria 7 v8 35 sau 30 in rate de la un prieten care are dezmembrari .Intrebarea sa caut un is si sa pun turbo sau sa pun motor de 7 ma gandesc ca v8 se aude minunat dar la perfomante nu o sa fie cine stie ce fata de 18 is turbo?
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post May 8 2010, 03:27 PM
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Are un amic d'al meu un M30 3.5 de vanzare de pe un E32, il da cu 250 euro. Daca te intereseaza, da-mi un mesaj si-ti dau numarul lui. Motorul e in Iasi, pe masina, si se poate proba.


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post May 8 2010, 08:26 PM
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@Rotti: De ce scrie la tine suv avatar 254 cp? smile.gif

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post May 8 2010, 09:57 PM
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pai daca are un M30 de 745 cam aia e puterea stock


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post May 8 2010, 10:06 PM
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Scrie "M30 3.5 254 cp"

M30 de 4.5 litri nu există.

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post May 8 2010, 10:47 PM
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e 3.5 alpina

4.5 M30 nu a existat dar asa s-a numit E23 cu 3.5 turbo "745i" ...pt ca scotea puterea echivalenta a unui 4.5




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post May 9 2010, 11:20 AM
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Ăla e M106.
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post May 9 2010, 12:31 PM
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Ala Alpina ori ala turbo?


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post May 9 2010, 12:40 PM
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Cel turbo de 3.5 litri de pe E23.
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post May 9 2010, 12:47 PM
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Ah, stiam asta, de la semnatura lui Ema d'acu vreo 2 ani.

Cred ca haifish se referea la serie cand a zis 745i nu la tipul de motor. Ca banui M30-ul ala modificat de Alpina se cheama tot M30 doar ca ... M30 Alpina? In fine.

Am cautat pe aici dar n-am gasit poze cu motorul lui Rotti la 'masina mea'. Pacat, mi-ar fi placut sa-l vad.


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post May 9 2010, 01:45 PM
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da xox tu ai inteles....

ciupanezu nu a inteles ca M106 la baza tot M30 e....e acelasi bloc...
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post May 9 2010, 01:52 PM
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Nu e vorba că nu am înţeles.
Nu ştiam. smile.gif

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post May 9 2010, 01:59 PM
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CITAT(xox @ May 9 2010, 01:47 PM) *
Am cautat pe aici dar n-am gasit poze cu motorul lui Rotti la 'masina mea'. Pacat, mi-ar fi placut sa-l vad.


E un 3.5 m30 aspirat normal, arata ca oricare alt m30 la exterior, internele sunt putin modificate. tongue.gif


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post May 9 2010, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (05aBi @ May 9 2010, 02:59 PM) *
E un 3.5 m30 aspirat normal, arata ca oricare alt m30 la exterior, internele sunt putin modificate. tongue.gif


da .... de nemtzii aia care le plac numai verde si albastru laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post May 9 2010, 08:17 PM
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Avand in vedere ca am participat la montarea a vreo doua V8 pe 30 pot spune probleme si avantaje pe care le are V8-ul vs 18 is turbo!
Voi lua in calcul V8 M60 4.0 286 cp.
Din start ambele proiecte ajung +/- in jur de 2000 euro!
Ca puteri vor iesi aproximativ pe acolo! cu un + pt V* fiind 100% safe!+cuplu mai mare v8!
Ca si greutati V8 ca si motor nu este cu mult mai greu decat 1.8 is 1.8 avand blocul de fonta,V8 aluminiu!Intr-adevar exista problema la V8 cu Nikasil si Alusil!Laf avut Nikasil si a tinut f bine si cu compresor la o presiune de 0.5 bar!

E bine sa apelezi pt montajul V8 la cineva care a mai pus V8 pe urs!Pt a preintampina problemele care apar pe parcurs!Evacuare,sistem de franare etc!

La 18 is fara un management electronic bun nu cred ca vei putea sa il duci f sus!Aici iti poate spune mai multe Vlad 316i!
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post May 9 2010, 10:01 PM
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CITAT(Ciupanezu @ May 9 2010, 11:20 AM) *
Ăla e M106.

si ala e tot un M30

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do?kind=...0500&arch=1

doar ca-i mai spune asa sa-l diferentieze de M102 care tot pe 745 a fost pus, pana in '82 (NFL) care ave aceiasi putere dar cilindree mai mica, 3,2L si alt tip de injectie si tot turbo, practic M30 si M102 si M106 la baza e acelasi motor

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m102 scotea 252 cai la 0.6 bari, iar m106 scoatea tot 252 dar la 0.4 bari.

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QUOTE (Ciupanezu @ May 8 2010, 09:26 PM) *
@Rotti: De ce scrie la tine suv avatar 254 cp? smile.gif

motorul provine de pe e34 alpina b10 3.5, este modelul aspirat.
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QUOTE (hanneman @ May 9 2010, 09:17 PM) *
Avand in vedere ca am participat la montarea a vreo doua V8 pe 30 pot spune probleme si avantaje pe care le are V8-ul vs 18 is turbo!
Voi lua in calcul V8 M60 4.0 286 cp.
Din start ambele proiecte ajung +/- in jur de 2000 euro!

ca sa aduci un is la puterea unui 4000 V8 ai nevoie de peste un bar, lucru realizabil doar cu pistoane forjate, garnitura, prezoane chiulasa, stand-alone bine pus la punct, etc. Deja vorbim de 3000+ euro si tot nu ai garantia ca nu va plesni chiulasa, lucru destul de frecvent la is-urile supraalimentate. Depinde de cum ai norocul.
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post May 11 2010, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE
La 18 is fara un management electronic bun


Megasquirt e suficient de bun ? smile.gif

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Ca si greutati V8 ca si motor nu este cu mult mai greu


Pai...

M40: 80kg
M42: 100kg
M20: 117kg
M50: 136kg
M30: 143kg
M60: 146kg

M60 este cel mai greu dintre cele enumerate de mine, dar totusi "pare" cel mai usor.
M30 este un motor GREU. M60 are o chiulasa si 2 pistoane in plus fata de M30 si totusi doar 3 kg in plus.

Datele au fost luate de aici : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/enumber.html.

Greutatile sunt pentru motorul "chel", fara galerii, alternator, demaror...

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post May 11 2010, 11:45 PM
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Caută mai bine pe bmwfans.

QUOTE (Rotti @ May 11 2010, 11:54 PM) *
motorul provine de pe e34 alpina b10 3.5, este modelul aspirat.


Mişto motor. smile.gif
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