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MishuliK 318i
post Aug 2 2010, 04:04 PM
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salutare lume am si eu o problema cam mare cu un BMW 525 si nu imi porneste am baterie noua dar nu vrea daca il imping in 5m a pornit poate sa imi spuna cineva ce peate sa aiba ca nu vreau sa imi prind urechile pe acolo aaa si mai ceva cind e motorul cald tot nu vrea sa porneasca blink.gif
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post Aug 2 2010, 04:28 PM
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Sa invarte electromotor?


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post Aug 2 2010, 05:16 PM
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nu vreau sa imi prind urechile pe acolo


fugi la un service


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post Aug 2 2010, 05:50 PM
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Prima intrebare, se invarte motorul cand dai la cheie?

Daca nu, impinge-o, porneste-o, mergi pe Baicului Nr116, vezi daca mai e un service acolo, faceau numai electromotoare si alternatoare acolo. Si le faceau bine.


Daca se invarteste motorul cand dai la cheie... broblem


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post Aug 2 2010, 07:42 PM
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electromotorul functioneaza daca tin la cheie se invirte cit am baterie as fugi la un servis dar sunt in alta tara si nu imi da mina sa merg la astia ca te menorocesc de bani smile.gif
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post Aug 2 2010, 08:34 PM
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cand ajungi in tara, fugi si pe la scoala inainte sa fugi la un service, cum bine ti-a recomandat Io's.
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post Aug 3 2010, 08:22 AM
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Am schimbat titlul topicului. Bine, acum nu-i corect gramatical dar macar tehnic e relevant.

Nu ma mai apuc sa pun si puncte, virgule si majuscule in textul post-ului.


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QUOTE (TiL @ Aug 3 2010, 09:22 AM) *
Invarteste, nu porneste, ce sa este oare?


Umorul fin este intotdeauna binevenit smile.gif


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daca e 525tds sau td iar electromotorul tau invarte in parametrii normali atunci te poti bucura de o noua achizitie de pompa de injectie cool.gif


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post Aug 3 2010, 09:59 PM
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sau vezi contacte imperfecte(borna de la baterie poate e oxidata si asa nu mai face contact bun sau firele pe electromotor) daca nu invarte mereu sau carbunii de la electromotor sau bobina electromotorului(toate astea in conditiile in care nu iti invarte electromotorul)


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post Aug 3 2010, 10:22 PM
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Să vedem totuşi despre ce 525 e vorba.
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post Aug 4 2010, 12:23 AM
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adica masina porneste impinsa in 5 m dar nu porneste la cheie? inseamna ca problema e la electromotor daca zici ca ai pus si baterie noua.


fugi la un service ! ! ! LOL


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post Aug 4 2010, 10:52 AM
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Til i-a pus o intrebare de priceput, dar s pare ca omu' n-a inteles-o.... wink.gif
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post Aug 4 2010, 11:39 AM
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dap, se pare ca mi-a raspuns totusi...

Ramane varianta lui Dani, daca e diesel.


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post Aug 4 2010, 09:43 PM
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Dacă porneşte împinsă şi funcţionează apoi fără probleme, cu siguranţă e electromotorul.

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post Aug 4 2010, 09:51 PM
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Sau coroana la volanta, in unele cazuri rare. Ar trebui totusi mai multe detalii...
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post Aug 4 2010, 10:13 PM
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daca se aude cum se invarte electromotorul, are urm variante ;bendix, furca bendix, coroana (asta pt benzina), daca e diesel adaugam reductorul sau doar coroana d plastic.
voi c ziceti, mai e cva d adaugat ?
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post Aug 4 2010, 10:50 PM
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e vorba de nu 525 tds electromotorul eu ma gindesc ca e bun dupa ce o pornesc si e cald doar un pik motorul porneste la cheie dar daca e cald motorul la 90 grade nu mai porneste trebe sa il las un pik sa se raceasca daca ar fi poampa de injectie ar mai poni si impinsa???????
TIL multumesc ca miai reparat greseala mii de scuze pt ceilati rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 4 2010, 10:57 PM
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Pompa de injectie...
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post Aug 4 2010, 11:01 PM
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dar daca e pompa de ce cind o imping porneste??????
si imi merge misto nu am probleme cu el


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eu pateam la fel cand nu avea motorul compresie......524 td
pornea tras sau cu spray depornire.. apoi cand era cald pornea la sfert
dar nu cred ca e cazul d elipsa de compresie la tine
poate e ceva de la
pompa de motorina
poate trage aer fals poate e vre o
supapa de la pompa de ijectie care nu mai tine motorina sub presiune........

ciudat ma pleaca doar trasa
poate e filtru de motorina prea imbasit nu stiu
ce sa zic
ai de cautat pe acolo fdiferite prob
cine mai a avut 525 tds poate stie
de fel ala e un motor rezistent


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post Aug 5 2010, 10:14 AM
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1 , ar trb la prima pornire sa ai p cineva sa se uite daca vine cva aer p furtunul transparent de la filtru la pompa d inj.
2 , porneste-o cum vrei, las-o sa se incalzeasca la temp la care esti sigur ca nu mai porneste cu electromotorul, sa ai pregatita o sticla de 2,5 l d apa rece d la congelator, la limita sa inghete.
3 , torni cu rabdare un jet cat o tigare pe capul hidraulic, acolo unde e electrovalva, la inbinarea capului hidraulic cu corpul de AL al pompei d injectie, lasi sa curga toata sticla,dupa care pornesti normal si scrie c se intampla.
evident ambreiajul calcat la podea la orice pornire.
vezi cu aerul p furtunul transparent. verifica si furtunasele subtiri de retur daca au cva murdarie d motorina p ele, se poate sa traga aer pe acolo si se dezamorseaza.
cat a stat masina asta oprita inainte sa o pornesti tu ?
in ture se ridica normal, are demaraj / putere ?
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post Aug 5 2010, 11:22 AM
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Eu n-as brusca pompa cu apa rece cand ea e fierbinte.
Suspectez ca asa mi-am stricat ceva garnituri la al meu TD, am turnat apa calda peste pompa congelata. Apoi a inceput sa piarda motorina pe la pompa, destul de multa.


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QUOTE (TiL @ Aug 5 2010, 12:22 PM) *
Eu n-as brusca pompa cu apa rece cand ea e fierbinte.
Suspectez ca asa mi-am stricat ceva garnituri la al meu TD, am turnat apa calda peste pompa congelata. Apoi a inceput sa piarda motorina pe la pompa, destul de multa.


si p unde iti curgea ? p la planul d imbinare intr cap si pompa ? dadeai capul jos, luai cotele de la O-ring ala, puneai un fir d azbest sau sfoara in canalul lui , sub el, sa compensezi tasarea, ansamblai la loc si cautai O-ring new. mai da-le in colo d fiare ca noi le-am facut p ele nu viceversa
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Mda, ma gandeam ca era simplu... biggrin.gif
Dar pana la urma am pus benzinar pe masina, avea prea multe belele dizelul.


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post Aug 5 2010, 10:35 PM
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va multumesc mult in cel mai scurt timp am sa incerc ce mi spus brown.shark si am sa va spun ce sa intimplat sau ce am rezolvat
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Am dat cu matura. Discutie new vs old e mutat la http://bmwzone.ro/forums/index.php?showtopic=9641 .


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post Aug 6 2010, 08:13 PM
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barto @ apreciem deranjul... wink.gif
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