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CAT View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 02:23 PM Post #1
64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 636 Joined: 7-January 06 From: B A C A U Member No.: 150	ce preferati intre un M3 E46 si ALPINA B3? sau in general , care este parerea voastra despre masinile facute de M si cele Alpina.

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alex230ro View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 03:31 PM Post #2
100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42	Sunt cam la egalitate modelele astea cel putin din punctul meu de vedere .Later edit atasez si linkuri cu datele tehnice M3 E46 http://www.autoweb-france.com/index.php?ru...&show=12&pr=BMW Alpina B3 3,3 E46 http://www.m5board.com/alpina/e46.html

TiL View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 03:39 PM Post #3
100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp	grea alegere... Cred ca as prefera asa: E12 - Alpina - cred ca asta e definitia lor E28 - M5 E34 - Alpina E39 - nu stiu... cred ca M5 Despre seria 3 nu stiu ce sa zic: in general pentru modele vechi as opta Alpina iar pentru cele noi (dupa '98 ) ///M. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i

alex230ro View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 03:46 PM Post #4
100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42	Sustin ceeea ce a zis Til cu o mica modoficare E28-Alpina E30-M3 PT TiL http://www.m5board.com/alpina/e28.html cum ai putut mah sa uiti E28-ul asta

florin83 View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 03:56 PM Post #5
100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP	M va recomand filmuletul ala in care sunt testate 3 versiuni de e46.. m3, alpina b3 3.3, hartge h5.0... :unibrow:

haifisch View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 04:57 PM Post #6
Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP	mi-ai luat vorba din gura florine da....acolo se face o descriere a masinilor....Alpina vs. Hartge vs. M referindu-ma la topic....avatarul meu spune totul

Ionut View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 05:06 PM Post #7
100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP	eu as alege ALPINA pentru e30 si M pentru modele de dupa e30 :cool: -------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone

CAT View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 06:16 PM Post #8
64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 636 Joined: 7-January 06 From: B A C A U Member No.: 150	ce modificari are Alpina fatza de serie, in afara motorului si cutiei , desigur? :eek:

316i View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 06:20 PM Post #9
Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST	M all the way. Cel putin dpdv estetic imi place mai mult M. Performantele nu le cunosc. -------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008.

TiL View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 06:40 PM Post #10
100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp	QUOTE (alex230ro) PT TiL http://www.m5board.com/alpina/e28.html cum ai putut mah sa uiti E28-ul asta Pentru ca M5 arata mai bine si mi-ar fi suficient. Spoilerele de Alpina E28 seamana prea mult cu cele de E12 si parca nu se incadreaza cum trebuie. Te mai contrazic si la E30. Prefer Alpina In rest... ma bucur ca ne intelegem -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i

mertan View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 08:58 PM Post #11
100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 24-November 05 From: IASHIngton- bacau Member No.: 103 Car: e30 Engine: m20 2.0 129CP	de ce nu ai pus si hartghe? oricum. depinde de la o masina la alta. eu zic ca M power ai motoarele lor... pe cand alpina modifica moarele stok(aici nu stiu. poate gresesc).

haifisch View Member Profile	Feb 21 2006, 09:06 PM Post #12
Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP	Divizia M are motoarele sale.... Alpina iau motoarele stock si le modifica

mertan View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:04 AM Post #13
100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 24-November 05 From: IASHIngton- bacau Member No.: 103 Car: e30 Engine: m20 2.0 129CP	asta ziceam. si alpina are motoare modificate de ei. dar nu cred alpina pot sa se ridice la nivelul de M. nu stiu ce motoare au ei.

io's® View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:08 AM Post #14
. Group: Super Moderators Posts: 5,955 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Bucureşti Member No.: 72 Car: . Engine: .	dar un ///M ALPINA nu se poate??? :ninja: :paranoid: -------------------- "PUTEREA BATE CUPLU PT CA TOT TIMPUL VEI GASI O TREAPTA INFERIOARA UNDE SA O PUI" "BMW E PENTRU DRUMURI LUNGI PE CARE SA LE FACI MAI REPEDE DECIT ORICINE PE SOSEA, SA MERGI TARE SI PE AUTOSTRADA SI PE SERPENTINE SI SA -I DAI 200 SI LA DEAL SI LA VALE"

florin83 View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:11 AM Post #15
100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP	ba da.. pe dacii tunate sau mai este asa ceva.. :unibrow:

alex230ro View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 10:11 AM Post #16
100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42	Sau asa ceva http://www.m5board.com/alpina/e30.html

Ionut View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 10:58 AM Post #17
100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP	eu vreau una din asta.... http://www.m5board.com/alpina/e30b635.html :nod: :nod: :nod: :drool: :drool: :drool: -------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone

CAT View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 11:41 AM Post #18
64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 636 Joined: 7-January 06 From: B A C A U Member No.: 150	puteti sa fiti mai expliciti atunci cand preferati M sau Alpina? la ce va referiti? doar la cum arata ? parerea mea e ca M e peste Alpina dpv estetic. din ce stiu eu , avantajul celor de la Alpina in fata M3-ului e ca fac si masini cu 4 portiere. In rest, e doar un BMW modificat, mult mai ieftin decat un M. exceptand faptul ca iau masini M si le modifica Alpina e la fel ca Hamman, AC Schnitzer, Hartge sau oricare alt tuner. Gresesc?

alex230ro View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 11:59 AM Post #19
100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42	Oarecum ,din ce am vazut uitandu-ma pe mobile.de am observat ca Alpina este considerata o marca :paranoid: Am zis sunt cam indecis per total probabil ca as prefera M,daca ne reverim strict la modelele puse de tine as alege M dar daca comparam alte modele se schimba datele problemei :unibrow: -------------------- cotetz 1,8is

haifisch View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:03 PM Post #20
Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP	M Alpina mai mult ca sigur nu va exista.... Alpina ESTE considerata o marca....doar e tunerul oficial al BMW....cum e AMG pt mercedes

CAT View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:09 PM Post #21
64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 636 Joined: 7-January 06 From: B A C A U Member No.: 150	nu am gasit nici o referire la Alpina ca fiind tuner oficial BMW. Am vazut M3 e30 modificat de Alpina anul trecut in Anglia.

haifisch View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:11 PM Post #22
Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP	este.... tu care crezi ca e?

CAT View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:12 PM Post #23
64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 636 Joined: 7-January 06 From: B A C A U Member No.: 150	este mai sus un link pus de florin83 in care e prezentat un M3 e30 modificat de Alpina

CAT View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 12:18 PM Post #24
64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 636 Joined: 7-January 06 From: B A C A U Member No.: 150	Alpina - Modified BMWs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alpina has closer relations with BMW than any other tuner. On many occasions Alpina have run racing teams on behalf of BMW and their accessories are often available through normal BMW dealers. In recent years AC Schnitzer products have also followed this trend in the UK. The company builds vehicles in it's own right in addition to supplying parts which others use to upgrade their own cars. This is an important distinction, a genuine Alpina car is a package of upgrades designed and tested to work together, it is more than just the sum of its parts. Many "Alpina cars" are nothing more than standard BMWs with Alpina wheels, body pack and maybe a new steering wheel. Alpina have been improving BMWs since 1963 when they first breathed life into the "Neu Klasse" four cylinder saloons with carburettor upgrades. One of the guiding philosophies of Alpina's work has been to gain performance without compromising reliability, this has ensured the comapany's reputation for quality. Alpina have modified most post-war BMWs over the years. Sometimes a long running BMW model would even have several Alpina variants. Many of these cars were built to exact customer requirements so specifications can vary quite a lot between cars with the same designation. In Germany Alpina are regarded as a manufacturer in their own right and a car's registration documents should reflect this if it's genuine. Paradoxically an Alpina costs less to insure than its BMW Motorsport equivalent

Azeea View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 01:28 PM Post #25
45% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 30 Car: 324 td e30 1989 Engine: M21 2.4TD 115CP	imi mentin parerea: Alpina este peste M ca eleganta si exclusivism. imbina mai bine ideea de sport cu lux iar rasfatul la interior e mai mare, te face sa te simti mai nobil. M este masina da fuga. Pe scurt, M intoarce toate capetele Alpina intoarce numai pe cele care trebuie -------------------- 324 td

haifisch View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 02:26 PM Post #26
Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP	ok.... inteleg acel text si am uitat de acel M3 Alpina....care e sg M modificat de alpina... DAR....Alpina e tunerul cel mai vechi de la BMW....abia dupa aia au trecut la modificari...hartge,kelleners,hamman...etc Sunt perfect de acord cu ce a scris Azeea

SUPERBEC View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 02:51 PM Post #27
82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 882 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 16	alpina nu este tuner bmw, este producator de automobile daca iti cumperi orice bmw nu te poti duce la alpina sa il prepare, ca la hamman, hartge etc.. trebuie sa cumperi masina direct de la ei -------------------- A Mercedes fan, Audi owner on BMW forum

Azeea View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 03:40 PM Post #28
45% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 30 Car: 324 td e30 1989 Engine: M21 2.4TD 115CP	Alpina e producator autonom de automobile si de vinuri (pun pariu ca n-o stiati toti p-asta ) -------------------- 324 td

CAT View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 07:42 PM Post #29
64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 636 Joined: 7-January 06 From: B A C A U Member No.: 150	iar M e producator de motoare

Viper05 View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 08:30 PM Post #30
a Group: Members Posts: 545 Joined: 1-November 05 From: a Member No.: 83 Car: a Engine: a	QUOTE (florin83) M va recomand filmuletul ala in care sunt testate 3 versiuni de e46.. m3, alpina b3 3.3, hartge h5.0... :unibrow: mai exact ce filmilet?

florin83 View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 09:02 PM Post #31
100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP	BMW M3 vs Alpina 3.3 vs Hartge 5.5.mpg are 100mb

SUPERBEC View Member Profile	Feb 22 2006, 09:39 PM Post #32
82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 882 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 16	tot filmu ala e reclama la hartge -------------------- A Mercedes fan, Audi owner on BMW forum

haifisch View Member Profile	Feb 23 2006, 08:10 AM Post #33
Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP	pai scuza-ma....dar cum sa nu faci reclama la asa ceva? ca le eclipseaza p amandoua :nod:

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