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 Jan 25 2006, 09:06 AM
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 100% BMW corupt  Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP  |
Lamuriti-ma si pe mine sa nu mor prost.. de ce unele masini scot abur pe evacuare, iar altele nu?
ma refer acum, pe vremea asta.. |
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Jan 25 2006, 09:33 AM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 24-November 05 From: IASHIngton- bacau Member No.: 103 Car: e30 Engine: m20 2.0 129CP |
a mea scoate la greu. ca am terminalul ala mare sudat de toba originala. :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Jan 25 2006, 10:36 AM
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 Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
Cand ajunge apa la 80-90 de grade a mea nu mai scoate abur. Pana atunci la greu. :nod: -------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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Jan 25 2006, 10:41 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 |
La mine tot scoate abur si atunci
 probabil ca are legatura si cu faptul ca sitele din tobe sunt inexsistente 
-------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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Jan 25 2006, 10:59 AM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 25 |
"Aburul" care iese pe teava de esapament este, in fond, o masa de vapori de apa in gazele de evacuare. Daca conformatia traseului de evacuare determina, in anumite conditii atmosferice, condensarea vaporilor, atunci nu iese abur. Evident, este de preferat ca apa sa condenseze cat mai putin pe traseu (deci sa iasa cat mai multi aburi afara), pentru ca apa condensata in evacuare provoaca ruginirea din interior spre exterior.
De la un model de masina la altul, traseul de evacuare este foarte diferit. Mai mult, chiar la acelasi tip de masina, traseele difera, cand esapamentul original a fost inlocuit cu ceva "customizat". Ca urmare, este normal ca volumul de abur ce iese pe teava de esapament sa difere de la o masina la alta. |
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Jan 25 2006, 10:59 AM
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18% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 23-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 54 Car: Toyota Engine: 1.3 |
Iar cele cu catalizator, scot si MAI MULT abur. |
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Jan 25 2006, 01:29 PM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Ce cred eu: am vazut la unele masini ca tobele sunt dublate la exterior ("ecranate") de o tabla. Tabla asta + aerul dintre ea si toba are si functie de izolator termic. Adica toba se incalzeste repede, chiar daca afara e foarte frig.
Acum, ce efect o fi avand treaba asta nu stiu... pe de o parte pot spune ca aerul iese mai cald din evacuare si in contact cu aerul rece de afara se produc vaporii. Pe de alta parte poti spune ca vaporii se creeaza la suprafata de contact gaze calde/toba rece, in interiorul asapamentului. Deci: unde se creeaza aburii astia? -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Jan 25 2006, 05:33 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
QUOTE (jaffar) ce masini ai vazut care NU scot abur cind e frig ? macar in primele minute ?
m-am uitat intentionat pe strada la masini.. sunt o gramada care nu scoteau absoult nimic.. |
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Jan 25 2006, 05:41 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
pai stai, ca n-am zis de rece sau cald.. de unde sa stiu eu de cand sunt pornite masinile de pe strada?
oricum a mea scoate si cand e cald motorul..
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Jan 25 2006, 06:09 PM
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 36% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 25-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 64 Car: E12, E34 Engine: M20 & M50 |
Si a mea scoate abur chiar si dupa ce se incalzeste Am tobele goale, dar nu stiu daca asta este cauza -------------------- // E12-520-'79 / E34-525-'90
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Jan 25 2006, 06:57 PM
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 82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 31 Car: E92 325i Engine: 218CP |
E incalzita bine evacuarea si de-aia nu mai scot abur
@florin83 Evacuarea ta in ce stare e? |
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Jan 25 2006, 07:20 PM
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 36% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 450 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Ottawa Member No.: 101 Car: e30 318is Engine: m42 +12psi of boost |
Cred ca este vb de H2O care se formeaza in urma arderi are o anumita temperatura mult mai ridicata decat peretii esapamentului si atmosfera interioara a esapamentului ,atmosfera rece din interiorul esapamentului face ca in contact cu particulele de apa sa se produca aburul si cu cat se incalzeste tot esapamentul cu atat scade cantitatea de abur emanata,iar ma mai gandesc ca de la un moment dat aburul nu se mai formeaza in interiorul esapamentului si incepe sa se formeze exact la iesirea h2o (condensata dar nu evaporata )de pe esapament ,asta cand se incalzeste esapamentul dar afara este inca frig.O ipoteza personala.
-------------------- UPGRADES SO FAR:12psi of boost,Fidanza 13lbs flywheel, M3 BULLY stage 3 clutch(240mm), getrag260 transmission,Coils over plugs (COP),Stock engine
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Jan 25 2006, 07:20 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
varza!
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Jan 25 2006, 07:28 PM
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36% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 450 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Ottawa Member No.: 101 Car: e30 318is Engine: m42 +12psi of boost |
Ce este varza?? -------------------- UPGRADES SO FAR:12psi of boost,Fidanza 13lbs flywheel, M3 BULLY stage 3 clutch(240mm), getrag260 transmission,Coils over plugs (COP),Stock engine
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Jan 25 2006, 07:34 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
lol... eu raspunsesem la intrebarea lui alexandru83
am postat in acelasi timp |
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Jan 25 2006, 09:44 PM
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 . Group: Super Moderators Posts: 5,955 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Bucureşti Member No.: 72 Car: . Engine: . |
masinile cu motoare dizal nu scot abur decat la pornire cand e motorul rece
-------------------- "PUTEREA BATE CUPLU PT CA TOT TIMPUL VEI GASI O TREAPTA INFERIOARA UNDE SA O PUI"
"BMW E PENTRU DRUMURI LUNGI PE CARE SA LE FACI MAI REPEDE DECIT ORICINE PE SOSEA, SA MERGI TARE SI PE AUTOSTRADA SI PE SERPENTINE SI SA -I DAI 200 SI LA DEAL SI LA VALE" |
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Jan 25 2006, 09:48 PM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 31 Car: E92 325i Engine: 218CP |
QUOTE (florin83) varza!
Si asta s-ar putea sa fie un motiv sa-ti scoata aburi tot timpul
E doar o parere personala |
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Jan 25 2006, 10:12 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
sa zicem ca asa e, da sa te uiti pe strada sa vezi cate masini scot abur si nu cred ca au toate evacuarea praf.. |
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Jun 7 2006, 11:05 PM
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 0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 2-June 06 Member No.: 329 |
si a mea scoate aburi,acuma ma refer la drumuri scurte de 5km prin oras.si mai si picura din esapament niste stropi mici de apa.???
am si kat,si ma gandeam sa-l scot afara dar ma tem de ce consum "frumos" o sa obtin ...daca momentan am 12-14. |
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Jun 8 2006, 09:42 AM
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Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
Daca ai o singura sonda lambda montata inaintea kat-ului poti sa-l scoti fara grija. Daca ai doua situatia se complica (una inainte de kat si cealalta dupa el).
-------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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Jun 8 2006, 10:05 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 24-November 05 From: IASHIngton- bacau Member No.: 103 Car: e30 Engine: m20 2.0 129CP |
oare daca are m20 are una inainte si daca are m50 are 2???
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Jun 10 2006, 05:14 PM
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 2-June 06 Member No.: 329 |
vad ca v-ati abatut de la topic,oare din cauza ca si katul contribuie la emisia de abur/fum alb???
imi poate explica cineva si de ce? |
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Dec 11 2008, 12:49 AM
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 11-December 08 Member No.: 2,389 Car: E36 Engine: M1 |
Salut,
Recent mi-am cumparat o masinuta, bmw 316i. Nu am mai mers cu ea de aproximativ 1 luna de zile. Inainte sa merg la rar am schimbat ulei, antigel si filtrele. Acum am observat ca dupa ce o pornesc incepe sa scoata fum mai mult decat scotea inainte. Ce poate sa fie ? In mers nu prea vad daca scoate asa mult, insa la semafor se vede cum urca fumul la cer   Am pus ulei 5w40, benzina 95 de la rompetrol ( plinul ). Dupa schimbul de ulei am facut aproximativ 40 km dupa care a stat 1 luna de zile. Toba e cam putin defecta ... e desprinsa un pic la mijloc. mersi bemve |
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Dec 11 2008, 01:56 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Ma tem ca scoate abur
 Si e normal pe frigurile astea, mai ales pana se incalzeste motorul si esapamentul. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Dec 11 2008, 08:31 AM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP |
este abur si e normal sa scoata pe temperatura asta mult, din cauza catalizatorului....
-------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone |
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Dec 11 2008, 09:07 AM
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 CristiC Group: Insiders Posts: 1,138 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Ploiesti Member No.: 26 Car: E87 Engine: 116i 115cp 2007 |
La mine atat ursuletul cat si e46-le aveau/au problema asta, scot fum alb, dar din fericire e decat abur
- asta se intampla cand este frig 
This post has been edited by cristic: Dec 11 2008, 09:12 AM -------------------- ex E30; ex E46; now E87
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Dec 11 2008, 10:09 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 |
Ursu parca nu scotea cat compactul,la compact parca face cineva un foc in spatele masinii
-------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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Dec 11 2008, 10:35 AM
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 zijdelings geļnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
QUOTE (alex230ro @ Dec 11 2008, 10:09 AM)  Ursu parca nu scotea cat compactul,la compact parca face cineva un foc in spatele masinii Se vedeti pe al meu.. merge pe carbuni. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
To keep up with me You've got to walk like a panther tonight |
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Dec 11 2008, 12:55 PM
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Roadrunner Group: Members Posts: 2,379 Joined: 10-November 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 1,273 Car: E39 Engine: M57D30 |
si la mine la fel, imi fac distilerie in spate =)
-------------------- Cash only, no I will not trade + cash for your ETA, nor do I want any wheels, ex girlfriends, puppies, or sexual favors....well maybe but PM me about that one
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Dec 11 2008, 04:31 PM
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 73% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 733 Joined: 13-May 08 From: iasi Member No.: 1,647 Car: E12 Engine: M30B25 150CP |
ce ulei ai avut inainte?
sportivul a schimbat uleiul la el la 7, nu mai retin ce ulei avea inainte, si i a pus 10w40 si plangea ca i scoate fum alb, desi eu cred ca era prea subtire uleiul pt motorul ala si aceeasi prostie am facut o si eu mi am luat ulei 10w40, p care inca nu l am skimbat , sa nu ma raniti ), si cred ca si eu o sa am parte de fum alb.fum alb am mai avut is at cand n am mai pornit masina vre o luna
-------------------- Eu am dreptate, tu nu. Dar pentru libertatea ta de a nu avea dreptate, eu voi lupta pānă la moarte.
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Dec 11 2008, 04:40 PM
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Roadrunner Group: Members Posts: 2,379 Joined: 10-November 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 1,273 Car: E39 Engine: M57D30 |
de la ulei e albastrui fumul...asta albu e doar abur, e normal sa apara odata cu frigul.
-------------------- Cash only, no I will not trade + cash for your ETA, nor do I want any wheels, ex girlfriends, puppies, or sexual favors....well maybe but PM me about that one
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Dec 11 2008, 04:45 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
si mie imi scoate mult abur.
stau cateodata la semafoare si ma uit la masinile din jur.. niciuna nu scoate ca a mea later edit: am unit topicul initial cu unul deja existent. |
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Dec 11 2008, 07:41 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Azi m-am gandit mai bine... mi se pare mie sau la rece nu prea scoate abur (la rece cam scuipa apa)
Iar la cald, gazele fierbinti din esapament intalnesc brusc aerul rece de afara si rezulta vaporii. Deci e abureala, stati linistiti Fumul alb s-ar vedea la pornirea la rece sau vara. Si nu stiu ce ar insemna. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Dec 11 2008, 09:46 PM
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. Group: Super Moderators Posts: 5,955 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Bucureşti Member No.: 72 Car: . Engine: . |
toate masinile cu motoare pe benzina scot abur cand e frig afara, mai mult sau mai putin in functie de , daca au catalizator si de marimea esapamentului, se face condensm mai ales cele cu catalizator pt ca transforma gazele in.... apa
si cele diesel scot dar muult mai putin si doar cand e ft frig afara si pana se incalzesc -------------------- "PUTEREA BATE CUPLU PT CA TOT TIMPUL VEI GASI O TREAPTA INFERIOARA UNDE SA O PUI"
"BMW E PENTRU DRUMURI LUNGI PE CARE SA LE FACI MAI REPEDE DECIT ORICINE PE SOSEA, SA MERGI TARE SI PE AUTOSTRADA SI PE SERPENTINE SI SA -I DAI 200 SI LA DEAL SI LA VALE" |
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Dec 11 2008, 11:24 PM
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 beemwe - ist Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 4-February 07 From: Drobeta Turnu Severin Member No.: 606 Car: 320i E36 coupe Engine: m50b20 S2 |
CITAT(io`s @ Dec 11 2008, 09:46 PM) toate masinile cu motoare pe benzina scot abur cand e frig afara, mai mult sau mai putin in functie de , daca au catalizator si de marimea esapamentului, se face condensm mai ales cele cu catalizator pt ca transforma gazele in.... apa si cele diesel scot dar muult mai putin si doar cand e ft frig afara si pana se incalzesc eu zic ca la toate astea contribuie mult si benzina...eu cand bag 95 fara plumb imi scoate o gramada de aburi si ceva apa pe esapament...cand trec pe 99 sau o benzina mai buna....nu mai scoate gram de abur... |
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Dec 11 2008, 11:49 PM
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 Cazan owner Group: Members Posts: 1,516 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Severin Member No.: 1,153 Car: E28 525i Engine: M50B25 192 CP |
QUOTE (sierra1771 @ Dec 11 2008, 11:24 PM) eu zic ca la toate astea contribuie mult si benzina...eu cand bag 95 fara plumb imi scoate o gramada de aburi si ceva apa pe esapament...cand trec pe 99 sau o benzina mai buna....nu mai scoate gram de abur... gogule cam rar iti raman bani de benzina 
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Dec 12 2008, 12:13 AM
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CristiC Group: Insiders Posts: 1,138 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Ploiesti Member No.: 26 Car: E87 Engine: 116i 115cp 2007 |
s-ar putea sa fie si de la benzina ... o sa fac teste in week-end si va anunt
-------------------- ex E30; ex E46; now E87
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Dec 13 2008, 04:44 PM
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 36% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 426 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bucuresti. Tei Member No.: 467 Car: e38 Engine: m52 2.8 193CP |
apropo de abur.
Ati observat ca masinile care au evacuare sport ( inox ) scot mai mult abur ? Am vazut asta la fratemiu...
-------------------- BMW E38 728i
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