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post Dec 13 2005, 12:05 PM
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M-a exasperat! sad.gif
in oras imi consuma minim 16.. media e pe undeva pe la 17-18..
intradevar am debitmetru varza, 2 fise de la bujii rupte, dar in aceleasi conditii in afara imi ia max 10.
Am facut acum cateva luni o excursie de aproape 1000km pe la munte, cu 3-4 persoane (am fost 2 masini si am mai facut schimb de pasageri), portbagajul plin, drum de munte, alergata bine in unele zone si am scos la final consum de 9.5, ceea ce zic eu ca e f. bine.

So.. care e explicatia de imi consuma asa mult in oras?

Sa nu radeti daca gresesc, dar eu pun problema pe seama tractiunii integrale. Ma gandesc a motorul se forteaza mai mult la plecari din cauza greutatii si a faptului ca trebuie sa invarta 4 roti => consum mai mare..
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:15 PM
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da chiar asa? sa fie consumul dublu? :crybaby:
Adevaru e ca nu merg mereu linistit, da oricum.. afara daca merg linistit (pana in 100) scot 8 si ceva, max 9.

si cand ma gandesc ca trebuie sa ma duc pana la scoala acum.. sad.gif(
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:15 PM
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Nu mai inteleg nimic biggrin.gif mie imi ia intre 12-16 in functie de stilul de mers biggrin.gif .La tine Florine cred ca debitmetrul e ,daca aveai fisele duse si pierdeai putere nu cred ca mai prindeai 230km/h biggrin.gif


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Si eu cred ca tractiunea integrala e responsabila pentru un consum ceva mai mare.
Chiar daca o sa ai motorul perfect reglat, nu cred sa ajungi la un consum prea redus.
Ai cumva valorile de consum declarate de BMW pentru acest tip de masina?
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:17 PM
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aia cu 230 a fost acum o luna si ceva..tongue.gif
fisele le-am rupt de curand.. de bune ce sunt mad.gif
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:22 PM
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aia cu 230 a fost acum o luna si ceva..tongue.gif  
fisele le-am rupt de curand.. de bune ce sunt  :angry:

Aha,bun te astept la primavara biggrin.gif


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:25 PM
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Robert, nu gasesc date decat de la americani si consumul e in mpg.. am gasit intre 17 si 20mpg in oras.
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:26 PM
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iti spun eu de ce....acum e frig afara....o pornesti, o lasi un pic sa se incalzeasca etc, pana se incalzeste baga benzina la greu....pe urma incep semafoarele, traficul de kk si debitmetrul...pentru ca ai 4x4 iti consuma in plus fata de noi cu 1-2l max...oricum daca schimbi debitmetrul in loc de 18 in oras pe timp de iarna o sa scada la 15-16...iar vara pe la 12-14...masina lu' da joint, vara, la un mers normal, nu sare de 13l max...deci se poate... smile.gif


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:31 PM
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195/60/14 stock vs 205/50/15 cum am acum
nu cred sa fie diferenta mare..
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:31 PM
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ah...am uitat... sonda de temperatura ai masurat-o si tu? poate iti da la tzomputer semnal de motor rece in continuu si daia si consum mare.... :dis:


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:35 PM
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mi-a schimbat-o nasi prin vara cand aveam probleme cu intreruptul la 5000-5500. am crezut ca e de la aia.

oricum, sincer, eu nu cred ca ii ia 13 lui da_joint.. totusi e o masina cu motor de 2.5, 4x4, 1300kg si veche.. nici un 325 e46 nu-ti ia atat in oras..
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:37 PM
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la dajoint e explicabil, are rotile foarte mici deci pe bord merge mult mai multi km decit in realitate, deci consumul e denaturat RAU. smile.gif

bine, si florin are rotile mai mici decit stock, deci si lui ii consuma in realitate mai mult.


ce roti mici are ma....are 195/50 r15....cat ii da si fabrica...


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:41 PM
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consumul facut in toamna(inca mai era cald afara)mi-a iesit aproximativ 13 in oras!
Consumul cand am fost la Bran a fost de 9,5 si nu sa mers chiar incet mai ales pe serpentine.
Acum mi-a crescut si mie consumul ...pana se incalzeste motorul+semafoare+am tachetii dereglati....


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:46 PM
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Mda, de cand cu frigul si mie imi ia 12-13 cu mers normal, deci nici economic nici racer. :crybaby:
Alaltaieri i-am scos vascul, i-am scos palnia aia de plastic care venea din radiator pana la elice si i-am acoperit nasul. Si da, acum se incalzeste mai repede. Ramane sa vad si la consum cum o sa se simta. :nod:
Later edit: ce-ar fi daca ii astup si suporturile de la faruri in dreptul radiatorului? biggrin.gif


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:46 PM
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Hmm din ce ziceti voi un 323i pare a fii alegerea ideala pt Bucuresti biggrin.gif
consum acceptabil si performante decente,unde mai pui ca te joci din avans :cool:


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:49 PM
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Ia pune-i 4.10 sa vezi ce alegere catastrofala pentru Bucuresti o sa fie. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (jaffar)
la dajoint e explicabil, are rotile foarte mici deci pe bord merge mult mai multi km decit in realitate, deci consumul e denaturat RAU. smile.gif

bine, si florin are rotile mai mici decit stock, deci si lui ii consuma in realitate mai mult.


Am sa fac o comparatie cu o alta masina (stock)sa vad ce diferente ies pe o anumita distanta!


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post Dec 13 2005, 12:52 PM
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ce roti mici are ma....are 195/50 r15....cat ii da si fabrica...


care fabrica e aia ? smile.gif sint cu 5.4% mai mici decit 194/65/14.


hmm...pe placuta lui de pe stalp are si 195/55 r15/....deci e de fabrica... wink.gif


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post Dec 13 2005, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (jaffar)
eu am pe stilp de la 195/65/14 pina la 205/60/15, asta ce inseamna
Sunt putin surprins. De regula, pe stalp sunt trecute diverse tipo-dimensiuni, dar care sunt foarte apropiate ca diametru. 195/65x14 are diametrul 609mm, in timp ce 205/60x15 are 627mm.
Este o diferenta inca acceptabila (in jurul la 3%), dar totusi relativ mare.
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post Dec 13 2005, 02:21 PM
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da_joint.. eu nu te cred ca iti ia 13.. e chiar imposibil.. cred ca si la carte are mai mult.
uite..lui Vlad ii ia 12-13 si are motor mai mic, greutate mai mica si Rwd..

uite, eu iti bag benzina, merg cu EU cu ea cat de incet si linistit pot si daca nu scot 13 imi dai banii inapoi? :unibrow:

edit: tocmai am transformat 17mpg in L/100 si mi-a dat 13.8l/100.. deci atat e consumul la un ix "la carte"
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la carte zice ca ia 13,5-13,6 in oras


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post Dec 13 2005, 03:00 PM
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pai da.. si cum la orice masina consumul de la carte e mai mic cu 1 poate 2l decat realitatea..
sa nu mai zic ca masinile noastre au aproape 20 de ani.. sad.gif
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si a mea consuma mai mult, imi ia vreo 13 in oras sau chiar mai mult dar cam asta e traficul in Bucuresti. in plus aveam relantiul mare.
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post Dec 13 2005, 03:42 PM
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da_joint.. eu nu te cred ca iti ia 13.. e chiar imposibil.. cred ca si la carte are mai mult.
uite..lui Vlad ii ia 12-13 si are motor mai mic, greutate mai mica si Rwd..

uite, eu iti bag benzina, merg cu EU cu ea cat de incet si linistit pot si daca nu scot 13 imi dai banii inapoi?  :unibrow:

edit: tocmai am transformat 17mpg in L/100  si mi-a dat 13.8l/100.. deci atat e consumul la un ix "la carte"


ai uitat de chip??? biggrin.gif


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post Dec 13 2005, 04:32 PM
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tu ai uitat ca si eu am chip ca al tau? biggrin.gif e o diferenta intradevar, inainte scoteam cam minimi 17-18..
tu n-ai mers fara chip, eu da..
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post Dec 13 2005, 04:52 PM
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pai si atunci ? de ce te miri ca scot 13? nu am nimic de castigat sa zic ca scot mai putin


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post Dec 13 2005, 07:33 PM
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eu zic de un 13 in oras(bland) si ianfara 9 litri. eu asha zic. producatorul ce zice?
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"salut - nou pe forum , nou posesor de ursuletz 325i - '89 - need advice

mai pe scurt, desi fuge de totzi banii, ma cam sperie consumul de 25%
credetzi ca exista o modalitate de a obtine un consum mai decent?
masina e in stare buna, asa ca nu cred ca ar fi ceva in neregula dpdv tehnic.
in afara ia cam 8%, dar din pacate trebuie sa o folosesc si in orash
ma gandeam la o instalatie de gaz, dar stiu si eu... parca nu prea se potriveste"


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salut
multumesc de "deturnare"
cred ca am gasit ceva lamuriri pe la voi
interesant forumul si site-ul in general... se apropie de E30.DE
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bine ai venit!

sa inteleg ca tu esti cel de pe 4tuning cu consumul de 25% ? biggrin.gif
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EXACT :nod:
acu dau si eu o tura pe la voi pe aici- interesant
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si nu ne zici si ceva despre masina? eventual niste poze.. :drool:
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momentan masina e in Iasi
325 i - 89 coupe diamant schwartz metallic
nu stiu daca o voi pastra, caut ceva in cat mai buna stare si cat mai apropiat de varianta de fabrica - intentionez o preparare europeana - CLEAN STYLE

ceva in genu' asta

PS caut 325i 88-90 coupe max 5000 euro
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m-am prins! tongue.gif
deci pana la urma de care ai? 325i sau 325ix?
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325i , tractiune spate adica...
am avut ocazia sa conduc un x, dar raman la 325 simplu, nu ca ar fi mai bla bla, dar mi se pare mai apropiat de ceea ce caut eu -ursuletz clasic
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gabi si cu 316i sunt offtopic :finger: da ma. si cum va spuneam. pretenul asta al meu, din ix o facut unu normal, cica o dat tot jos de pe el si o pus ce era pe unu normal. si o zis ca ii consuma cam 12-13 in orash, masina super ingrijita.
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gabi si cu 316i sunt offtopic :finger:   da ma. si cum va spuneam. pretenul asta al meu, din ix o facut unu normal, cica o dat tot jos de pe el si o pus ce era pe unu normal. si o zis ca ii consuma cam 12-13 in orash, masina super ingrijita.


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daca scoti transmisia fata la un ix obtii o masina cu tractiune spate care vireaza drept, un fel de dacia papuc :puke:


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Am facut consumul din nou....am bagat 12 litri cu care am mers 98 de km....
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bai, deci eu nu o raportez la a mea.. dar cand auzi, masina de 20 de ani, 4x4, 6 cilindrii, 2500cmc iti vine greu a crede ca poate sa consume 12-13 in oras, mai putin chiar decat scrie la carte..
si astea noi au o abatere de 1-2l in plus in oras..
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Am facut consumul din nou....am bagat 12 litri cu care am mers 98 de km....
Stiu ...Florin va sari ca ars ....ca nu are cum ....dar asta e....atat a iesit... :unibrow:

iarna, 12 litrii/100 si mers la cerculete :finger: ? gogule esti pastilat??? ce draq ma te-ai uitat aseara la harry potter si ai luat-o razna...sa fim seriosi... :cool:


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Am facut consumul din nou....am bagat 12 litri cu care am mers 98 de km....
Stiu ...Florin va sari ca ars ....ca nu are cum ....dar asta e....atat a iesit... :unibrow:

iarna, 12 litrii/100 si mers la cerculete :finger: ? gogule esti pastilat??? ce draq ma te-ai uitat aseara la harry potter si ai luat-o razna...sa fim seriosi... :cool:


asta e....atat a iesit....am sa verific eroarea la care este la kilometraj....din cauza rotilor....apoi pot spune exact....


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iti cumpar masina....cat vrei pe ea?....pai la 12/100 iarna m-am scos....vara o sa ia 10....e ok....deci cat vrei????? :cool:


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bine mai....am sa verific eroarea de roti intai....apoi am sa fac consumul din nou....ma astept sa cresaca fiindca tre sa imi dea o eroare la roti....acum ramane de vazut cat ??
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Da,da si a mea consuma 8 l biggrin.gif


afara.. :unibrow:
atat cosuma si a mea daca ma chinui putin..smile.gif

multi zic ca e dereglata a mea, dar daca ar fi asa n-ar consuma 9-10 in afara.. in oras ia aproape dublu sad.gif(
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Nu ma 8 l la 50 km biggrin.gif asta dupa ce am facut cercuri si am alergat cu ea biggrin.gif.Later edit:doar la cercuri cred ca am consumat ceva ca mi-a curs benzina din rezervor sad.gif (deh de lene nu am inchis busonul de la benzina)


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bine mai....am sa verific eroarea de roti intai....apoi am sa fac consumul din nou....ma astept sa cresaca fiindca tre sa imi dea o eroare la roti....acum ramane de vazut cat ??
poate ma trezesc cu un consum de 25%  :lol:  :retard:


consumul trebuie facut plin pe plin...nu te lua dupa ce iti arata la bord... smile.gif


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in oras, sau pe distante scurte nu prea merge dupa bord, dar pe distante mari merge..smile.gif
eu asa am facut consumul pe ~1000km.. se aprinsese becu de 2-3km, am facut plinul o dat si am mai bagat pe parcurs (adunat cred ca fost cam inca un plin) si am mers pana cand s-a aprins iar..
mi-a luat 9.5.. in conditiile in care am mers si cu 200 :unibrow: , a fost incarcata la max aproape si 70% din drumuri au fost la munte..
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in oras, sau pe distante scurte nu prea merge dupa bord, dar pe distante mari merge..smile.gif
eu asa am facut consumul pe ~1000km.. se aprinsese becu de 2-3km, am facut plinul o dat si am mai bagat pe parcurs (adunat cred ca fost cam inca un plin)  si am mers pana cand s-a aprins iar..
mi-a luat 9.5.. in conditiile in care am mers  si cu 200 :unibrow: , a fost incarcata la max aproape si 70% din drumuri au fost la munte..


asta cu bagatu rand pe rand nu prea e concludenta...tot plin pe plin iese mai corect.... smile.gif


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de ce sa nu fie, daca ti minte cat ai bagat de fiecare data?
nu zic ca e super exact, dar pe distante mari cum a fost in cazul meu nu e asa mare eroarea..
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huh?!!?

mai mergeam la pescuit la tara, pe olt.. smile.gif
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offtopic fratilor. reveniti la subiect.(glumeam). eu zic aha. iei rezervorul gol. faci plinul. mergi 100 de km si dupaia completezi pana la plin si vezi cat o intrat. parerea mea.
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Cea mai buna metoda de aflare a consumului ramane"plin pe plin" ,dar asta doar daca ti-o permiti. Metoda folosita de mine(recunosc,de multe ori neintentionat) este pana pe pana biggrin.gif .Torn in rezervor x litri benzina (in conditiile in care am ramas in pana) si merg pana ard tot, fac un mic calcul si=> consumul,cu o eroare mai mare ce-i drept decat cea de la"plin pe plin",fiind vorba de km mai putini,dar acceptabila.


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cea mai buna solutie este plin pe plin... dar cum nu este posibila tot timpul eu am mai facut si ceva de genul rosu pe rosu ... adika pun un nr de x litri (peste 10) atunci cand se aprinde becul si merg cu benzina aia pana se aprinde din nou becul, nu e foarte fix ... dar merge


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Da' cum vi se pare 15% in oras si 10% afara,pt. un BMW 316 (cu motor M10 de doar 1.767 l ) ,carburatie?
P.S. Are cineva vreo idee? : http://www.bimmer.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603


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Da' cum vi se pare 15% in oras si 10% afara,pt. un BMW 316 (cu motor M10 de doar 1.767 l ) ,carburatie?
P.S. Are cineva vreo idee?  :http://www.bimmer.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603

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Da' cum vi se pare 15% in oras si 10% afara,pt. un BMW 316 (cu motor M10 de doar 1.767 l ) ,carburatie?
P.S. Are cineva vreo idee?  :http://www.bimmer.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603
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Ar trebui. Deocamdata analizez ideea:
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as face si eu un test "plin pe plin" dar rezervorul are 70l, nici nu mai stiu cat e l de benzina. e vreo 35000? sa bag benzina de 2,5 milioane? huh?? si inca vreo 500.000 dupaia ca sa aflu consumul :drool:
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@comisaru-- foarte mare consumul!!! da-mi un tel si mergem la mecanicul meu, sau mergi la cineva care stie s-o regleze cum trebuie, sunt destui in Ploiesti care stiu sa faca treaba buna


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la dajoint e explicabil, are rotile foarte mici deci pe bord merge mult mai multi km decit in realitate, deci consumul e denaturat RAU. smile.gif

bine, si florin are rotile mai mici decit stock, deci si lui ii consuma in realitate mai mult.


Am sa fac o comparatie cu o alta masina (stock)sa vad ce diferente ies pe o anumita distanta!

Am facut eu calculul, plecand de la ipoteza ca roata stock pentru care este calibrat vitezometrul/kilometrajul este de dimensiunea 195/65R14, si am facut comparatie cu dimensiunea 195/50R15.
Raza roata stock = 304.55mm
Raza roata 1 = 288mm
Diametru roata stock = 609.1mm
Diametru roata 1 = 576mm
Nr. de rotatii in 100km pt. roata stock=52259.052
Nr. de rotatii in 100km pt. roata 1 = 55262.133
Distanta reala parcursa de roata 1 in 100km parcursi de roata stock=94.565km
Eroare distanta parcursa de roata 1 = 5.43 km la fiecare 100km.
Plecand de la ideea ca in 100km (pe bord) parcursi cu roata 1 se consuma 13litri, consumul pt. 100km reali este 13.747L.

Acum, vitezometrul/kilometrajul este calibrat la majoritatea masinilor sa indice cu + 3% ... + 5% mai multa viteza (si cred eu, kilometri parcursi).
Aplicand acel indice de 3% la kilometrii reali ai rotii stock, avem:
Nr. de rotatii in 100km pt. roata stock=50691.280
Nr. de rotatii in 100km pt. roata 1 = 55262.133
Distanta reala parcursa de roata 1 in 100km parcursi de roata stock=91.728km
Eroare distanta parcursa de roata 1 = 8.27 km la fiecare 100km.
Plecand de la ideea ca in 100km (pe bord) parcursi cu roata 1 se consuma 13litri, consumul pt. 100km reali este 14.17L.

Si cu un indice de 5%:
Nr. de rotatii in 100km pt. roata stock=49646.099
Nr. de rotatii in 100km pt. roata 1 = 55262.133
Distanta reala parcursa de roata 1 in 100km parcursi de roata stock=89.837km
Eroare distanta parcursa de roata 1 = 10.16 km la fiecare 100km.
Plecand de la ideea ca in 100km (pe bord) parcursi cu roata 1 se consuma 13litri, consumul pt. 100km reali este 14.47L.

Acum.. luati un GPS si vedeti ce viteza aveti :unibrow:

P.S.: Mie vitezometrul din bord imi indica cu 5% mai mare viteza, iar OBC-ul o nimereste aproape pe cea indicata de GPS. Cand o sa schimb jantele, o sa fie cu totul alte cifre.


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El are deja 5.5% eroare prin folosirea unei roti mai mici. Daca aplici inca 5%.. obtii 10, da tongue.gif


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am facut test cu gps-ul sambata cu masina lui joint..

deci la 60km/h pe bord are 50-51km/h in realitate..
eu la 60 pe bord am 56-57 in realitate..

el cred ca ia pe bord si 260km/h laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

am facut test si la jurnalierul, sau cum se cheama ala de-ti arata cati km faci...

la 2km reali lui ii arata 2.1km => ca la 100km pe bord el face defapt 95.
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stati sa vedeti ca vreau si eu sa-mi iau cauciucuri cum are el (195/50/15)..
sa vedeti atunci consum de 5-6 in afara laugh.gif laugh.gif si viteze de peste 250 laugh.gif
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a mai scazut consumul.. 15 si ceva in oras, mers calm (72km cu 11 litrii)
ieri am fost pana in ploiesti. pe dn1 am mers in localitati cu 70 si afara 100-180. dus-intors si ceva plimbat prin oras (bucuresti si ploiesti ~30km) mi-a iesit consumul 10 in cap.
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si iar a scazut.. smile.gif
bucuresti-ploiesti-cheia-brasov-bran-pestera dambovicioara-campulung-pitesti-bucuresti 490 si ceva de km cu 45L
si mai fac sigur vreo 20-30 in oras cu benzina pe care o mai am...
=> consum de ~9, dar am mers mai tot drumul cu 80-100.. de 2-3 ori cred ca i-am dat pana pe la 140-150.
autostrada am facut-o toata cu 80 ca facusem pana si aveam pe fata o roata 195/50/15 si alta (rezerva) 185/65/14 si mergea ca naiba sad.gif
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e adevarat ca daca merg mult cu sub 12 litri in rezervor , in scurt timp cedeaza pompa ?
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fix 12 litrii e pragul? :retard:
intradevar, daca mergi cu putina benzina in rezervor pompa pe langa benzina mai trage si aer, dar nu cred ca o afecteaza in vre-un fel.
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pompa cedeaza mai degraba de la mizeria din rezervor. exista o sita finaprin care trece benzina inainte de a intra in pompa. sita asta se obtureaza cu jeg (rugina, nisip, ce s-o mai aduna pe-acolo in atatia ani), si pompa se chinui sa traga... si se chinuie, si se chinuie...pana moare.

eu am facut o magarie cand am avut probleme (mi se oprea motorul in mers si dadeam 10 chei pana pornea iar, aveam fluctuatii de relanti), si am rezolvat pe moment fara sa schimb pompa (era cam scumpa una noua). doar am desfacut-o si am spalat sita respectiva... asta se intampla in octombrie anul trecut. intre timp, am vandut masina, dar cumparatorul (caruia i-am povestit ce si cum), nu a schimbat inca pompa din cate stiu eu.
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sub banchetra am 2 capace, pe care sa o demontez aia din dreaptra sau aia din stanga ? una-i mai mica alta e mai mare.....


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am sa ma uit eu la masina aceea. e dubios rau....
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pe partea pasagerului.
si gaura cealalta ce-o fi ? de fapt poti sa te uiti pe oricare-ti vine mai usor sa o desfaci, daca ambele dau in rezervor.

e30 avea doua sonde de nivel ?! de ce-s doua gauri ?


Daca rezervorul are 2 camere, da.

Later edit: ca sa indice corect presupun ca au pus 2 sonde


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pe partea pasagerului.
si gaura cealalta ce-o fi ? de fapt poti sa te uiti pe oricare-ti vine mai usor sa o desfaci, daca ambele dau in rezervor.

e30 avea doua sonde de nivel ?! de ce-s doua gauri ?



Rezervoarele au intr-o gaura sonda+pompa si in cealalta doar sonda, deci 2 sonde de nivel, cate una in fiecare compartiment. wink.gif


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eu am 325ix din '86 si minim am scos in oras 12( cind aveam toba intermediara sparta de bagai pumnul in ea- da a trebuit sa o schimb ca declansam toate alarmele- cu...2 tevi de inox biggrin.gif ) ; acum a revenit la 14-15 in mers linistit, afara cam 9- tot linistit( pina la 120), iar la figuri 30 lejer biggrin.gif , cel putin asta iarna...
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moama asta e record la ix 12 L in orash laugh.gif asta cumva pe la 2-3 demineata cand nu era trafic ?


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MAN cu 1 mil pun de la mol 28,82 l benzina; cu intermediara sparta faceam 250km, asta inseamna cam 12/100; acum in locul intermediarei am sudat 2 tevi inox si fac cu aceasi cantitate benzina cam 215 - 218 km( precizez ca am schimbat si furtunul dintre filtru aer si clapeta acceleratie odata cu sudatul) asta inseamna cam 13,5 - 14/100( dar tine cont ca s-a si incalzit afara), oricum la mine consumul variaza mult in functie de temperatura si umiditate
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in seara asta am mai facut si eu consumul... 17 :eek:

deci nu-mi explic..
afara imi ia 11 forjata la maxim (acum la bimmerfest) si 9 mers lejer (dat de 2-3 ori 180-200) - ambele consumuri sunt facute pe un drum de ~500km..
in oras ia de la 16 in sus...
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in seara asta am mai facut si eu consumul... 17 :eek:

deci nu-mi explic..
afara imi ia 11 forjata la maxim (acum la bimmerfest) si 9 mers lejer (dat de 2-3 ori 180-200) - ambele consumuri sunt facute pe un drum de ~500km..
in oras ia de la 16 in sus...

something it's fishy , probabil cand stai pe loc iti picura pe undeva :retard: in orash cu ce viteza (treapta) mergi si ce circumferinta au cercurile pe care le dai cand mergi prin orash laugh.gif


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in seara asta am mai facut si eu consumul... 17 :eek:

deci nu-mi explic..
afara imi ia 11 forjata la maxim (acum la bimmerfest) si 9 mers lejer (dat de 2-3 ori 180-200) - ambele consumuri sunt facute pe un drum de ~500km..
in oras ia de la 16 in sus...

Termostatul iti functioneaza corect? Intreb si eu, ca la mine consumul e de 15 in Bucuresti (drumuri de 7-8 km dimineata si seara, adica intre casa si servici), si toata lumea zice ca e prea mult. I-am schimbat termostatul acum 2 saptamani si consumul pare ca a scazut cu cel putin 1 litru/100 km. Inca nu m-am lamurit exct cu cat, trebuie sa mai fac niste sute de km in Bucuresti ca sa fiu sigur.


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temperatura sta la jumate..
altfel cum verific?
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Cred ca e ok daca sta la jumatate. Ar trebui si sa urce destul de repede temperatura pna acolo, adica in maxim 3-4 km de la plecarea cu motorul rece, zic eu. Daca urca prea greu nu e bine, ca mergi mult cu motorul rece si creste consumul. Cel putin la mine asta cred ca se intampla, crestea greu temperatura si nici nu crestea suficient de mult. Acum cu noul termostat creste mai mult si mai repede, dar sta sub 90 de grade.


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