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 Jan 25 2006, 09:06 AM
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 100% BMW corupt  Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP  |
Lamuriti-ma si pe mine sa nu mor prost.. de ce unele masini scot abur pe evacuare, iar altele nu?
ma refer acum, pe vremea asta.. |
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Jan 25 2006, 09:33 AM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 24-November 05 From: IASHIngton- bacau Member No.: 103 Car: e30 Engine: m20 2.0 129CP |
a mea scoate la greu. ca am terminalul ala mare sudat de toba originala. :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Jan 25 2006, 10:36 AM
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 Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
Cand ajunge apa la 80-90 de grade a mea nu mai scoate abur. Pana atunci la greu. :nod: -------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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Jan 25 2006, 10:41 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 |
La mine tot scoate abur si atunci
 probabil ca are legatura si cu faptul ca sitele din tobe sunt inexsistente 
-------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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Jan 25 2006, 10:59 AM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 25 |
"Aburul" care iese pe teava de esapament este, in fond, o masa de vapori de apa in gazele de evacuare. Daca conformatia traseului de evacuare determina, in anumite conditii atmosferice, condensarea vaporilor, atunci nu iese abur. Evident, este de preferat ca apa sa condenseze cat mai putin pe traseu (deci sa iasa cat mai multi aburi afara), pentru ca apa condensata in evacuare provoaca ruginirea din interior spre exterior.
De la un model de masina la altul, traseul de evacuare este foarte diferit. Mai mult, chiar la acelasi tip de masina, traseele difera, cand esapamentul original a fost inlocuit cu ceva "customizat". Ca urmare, este normal ca volumul de abur ce iese pe teava de esapament sa difere de la o masina la alta. |
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Jan 25 2006, 10:59 AM
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18% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 23-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 54 Car: Toyota Engine: 1.3 |
Iar cele cu catalizator, scot si MAI MULT abur. |
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Jan 25 2006, 01:29 PM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Ce cred eu: am vazut la unele masini ca tobele sunt dublate la exterior ("ecranate") de o tabla. Tabla asta + aerul dintre ea si toba are si functie de izolator termic. Adica toba se incalzeste repede, chiar daca afara e foarte frig.
Acum, ce efect o fi avand treaba asta nu stiu... pe de o parte pot spune ca aerul iese mai cald din evacuare si in contact cu aerul rece de afara se produc vaporii. Pe de alta parte poti spune ca vaporii se creeaza la suprafata de contact gaze calde/toba rece, in interiorul asapamentului. Deci: unde se creeaza aburii astia? -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
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Jan 25 2006, 05:33 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
QUOTE (jaffar) ce masini ai vazut care NU scot abur cind e frig ? macar in primele minute ?
m-am uitat intentionat pe strada la masini.. sunt o gramada care nu scoteau absoult nimic.. |
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Jan 25 2006, 05:41 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
pai stai, ca n-am zis de rece sau cald.. de unde sa stiu eu de cand sunt pornite masinile de pe strada?
oricum a mea scoate si cand e cald motorul..
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Jan 25 2006, 06:09 PM
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 36% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 25-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 64 Car: E12, E34 Engine: M20 & M50 |
Si a mea scoate abur chiar si dupa ce se incalzeste Am tobele goale, dar nu stiu daca asta este cauza -------------------- // E12-520-'79 / E34-525-'90
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Jan 25 2006, 06:57 PM
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 82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 31 Car: E92 325i Engine: 218CP |
E incalzita bine evacuarea si de-aia nu mai scot abur
@florin83 Evacuarea ta in ce stare e? |
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Jan 25 2006, 07:20 PM
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 36% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 450 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Ottawa Member No.: 101 Car: e30 318is Engine: m42 +12psi of boost |
Cred ca este vb de H2O care se formeaza in urma arderi are o anumita temperatura mult mai ridicata decat peretii esapamentului si atmosfera interioara a esapamentului ,atmosfera rece din interiorul esapamentului face ca in contact cu particulele de apa sa se produca aburul si cu cat se incalzeste tot esapamentul cu atat scade cantitatea de abur emanata,iar ma mai gandesc ca de la un moment dat aburul nu se mai formeaza in interiorul esapamentului si incepe sa se formeze exact la iesirea h2o (condensata dar nu evaporata )de pe esapament ,asta cand se incalzeste esapamentul dar afara este inca frig.O ipoteza personala.
-------------------- UPGRADES SO FAR:12psi of boost,Fidanza 13lbs flywheel, M3 BULLY stage 3 clutch(240mm), getrag260 transmission,Coils over plugs (COP),Stock engine
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Jan 25 2006, 07:20 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
varza!
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Jan 25 2006, 07:28 PM
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36% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 450 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Ottawa Member No.: 101 Car: e30 318is Engine: m42 +12psi of boost |
Ce este varza?? -------------------- UPGRADES SO FAR:12psi of boost,Fidanza 13lbs flywheel, M3 BULLY stage 3 clutch(240mm), getrag260 transmission,Coils over plugs (COP),Stock engine
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Jan 25 2006, 07:34 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
lol... eu raspunsesem la intrebarea lui alexandru83
am postat in acelasi timp |
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Jan 25 2006, 09:44 PM
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 . Group: Super Moderators Posts: 5,955 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Bucureşti Member No.: 72 Car: . Engine: . |
masinile cu motoare dizal nu scot abur decat la pornire cand e motorul rece
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Jan 25 2006, 09:48 PM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 31 Car: E92 325i Engine: 218CP |
QUOTE (florin83) varza!
Si asta s-ar putea sa fie un motiv sa-ti scoata aburi tot timpul
E doar o parere personala |
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Jan 25 2006, 10:12 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
sa zicem ca asa e, da sa te uiti pe strada sa vezi cate masini scot abur si nu cred ca au toate evacuarea praf.. |
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Jun 7 2006, 11:05 PM
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 0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 2-June 06 Member No.: 329 |
si a mea scoate aburi,acuma ma refer la drumuri scurte de 5km prin oras.si mai si picura din esapament niste stropi mici de apa.???
am si kat,si ma gandeam sa-l scot afara dar ma tem de ce consum "frumos" o sa obtin ...daca momentan am 12-14. |
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Jun 8 2006, 09:42 AM
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Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
Daca ai o singura sonda lambda montata inaintea kat-ului poti sa-l scoti fara grija. Daca ai doua situatia se complica (una inainte de kat si cealalta dupa el).
-------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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