Full Version: diferenta m3 e36 US - EU spec
Care este diferenta intre cele doua versiuni , am observat diferenta cilindreei dar si motorul arata altfel , diferentele sunt doar la motor sau mai sunt si altele referitor la interior suspensii sau mai stiu eu ce , ahh si de ce nu s-a facut nici o sectiune motorsport pe forum :paranoid:
Din cate stiu eu motoarele de pe m3-urile din state sunt mai restrictionate. LA versiunea S50 de 3.0 litri in loc 286 CP are vreo 250-260CP si stiu ca S52-ul nici macar nu a ajuns la ei. Pot sa ma insel asa ca nu bag mana in foc pentru corectitudinea acestor informatii.
QUOTE (andrei318ti)
Din cate stiu eu motoarele de pe m3-urile din state sunt mai restrictionate. LA versiunea S50 de 3.0 litri in loc 286 CP are vreo 250-260CP si stiu ca S52-ul nici macar nu a ajuns la ei. Pot sa ma insel asa ca nu bag mana in foc pentru corectitudinea acestor informatii.
Te inseli!!! :nod:
E un 3,2 - 321 cp la vanzare prin Bucuresti si e adus din SUA!!!
Atunci cred ca doar pe varianta S50 era cu mai putina putere. Oricum stiu ca pe bimmerforums si pe 318ti.org baietii mereu cauta versiunile europene a motoarelor de m3.
QUOTE (butcky)
QUOTE (andrei318ti)
Din cate stiu eu motoarele de pe m3-urile din state sunt mai restrictionate. LA versiunea S50 de 3.0 litri in loc 286 CP are vreo 250-260CP si stiu ca S52-ul nici macar nu a ajuns la ei. Pot sa ma insel asa ca nu bag mana in foc pentru corectitudinea acestor informatii.
Te inseli!!! :nod:
E un 3,2 - 321 cp la vanzare prin Bucuresti si e adus din SUA!!!
te inseli tu
sa fiu sincer nici eu nu cred sa fie adus din US si mai ales sa fie US version :paranoid:
ahhh ... si in plus nu e in conformitate cu normele EU .
m-am uitat si eu p autovit si sunt sigur k e EU version
inca ceva ...cutie automata.. SMG pe e36 ? ahh si 8 airbag-uri ??
inca ceva ...cutie automata.. SMG pe e36 ? ahh si 8 airbag-uri ??
da, exista smg (1)..
PS: incearca si tu butonul edit cand mai ai ceva de adaugat
PS: incearca si tu butonul edit cand mai ai ceva de adaugat
sorry for that 
look what i have found
US Model Coupe
Engine Code:
M50 B30
Cylinders:
24 valve in-line 6 (single VANOS)
Capacity:
3.0L
Power:
240hp @ 6000
Torque:
225lb @ 4250
Weight:
3175lb
Maximum Speed:
128 (Electronically Limited/Manual)
Acceleration:
0-60mph in 5.7 sec
Fuel Consumption:
20/28 mpg city/highway
Front Wheels/Tires:
7.5x17 Alloy
235/40 ZR17
Rear Wheels/Tires:
7.5x17 Alloy
235/40 ZR17
Engine Management System:
Bosch Motronic 3.3.1
look what i have found
US Model Coupe
Engine Code:
M50 B30
Cylinders:
24 valve in-line 6 (single VANOS)
Capacity:
3.0L
Power:
240hp @ 6000
Torque:
225lb @ 4250
Weight:
3175lb
Maximum Speed:
128 (Electronically Limited/Manual)
Acceleration:
0-60mph in 5.7 sec
Fuel Consumption:
20/28 mpg city/highway
Front Wheels/Tires:
7.5x17 Alloy
235/40 ZR17
Rear Wheels/Tires:
7.5x17 Alloy
235/40 ZR17
Engine Management System:
Bosch Motronic 3.3.1
da, sunt diferite:
Variation of this (M50) was used in the Early US E36 M3
2.0 (150bhp), 2.5 (192bhp), 3.0 (240bhp) Sometimes referred to as S50US. Engine shares more common parts with M50 than Euro S50, but is a motorsport engine.
S50 - Straight 6 DOHC 24V Solid Lifter Valvetrain with Single VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies. (Dual Vanos on 3.2Ls) 1992-2000. 152kg 333lbs
Used in non-US E36 M3 (3.0L) and E36 M3 Evo (3.2L) and non-US Z3 M-coupe/roadster (all 3.2L)
3.0 (286bhp), 3.2L (321bhp)
Variation of this (M50) was used in the Early US E36 M3
2.0 (150bhp), 2.5 (192bhp), 3.0 (240bhp) Sometimes referred to as S50US. Engine shares more common parts with M50 than Euro S50, but is a motorsport engine.
S50 - Straight 6 DOHC 24V Solid Lifter Valvetrain with Single VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies. (Dual Vanos on 3.2Ls) 1992-2000. 152kg 333lbs
Used in non-US E36 M3 (3.0L) and E36 M3 Evo (3.2L) and non-US Z3 M-coupe/roadster (all 3.2L)
3.0 (286bhp), 3.2L (321bhp)
da de interior sau ceva la exterior diferente sunt , stie cineva ?
Ar fi interesant un kit de upgrade de la M50B25 la M50B30... aa, scuze, S50US
Ii rupi pe toti la legale, ca n-au cum sa iti demonstreze ca motorul are 3 litri :unibrow:
Ii rupi pe toti la legale, ca n-au cum sa iti demonstreze ca motorul are 3 litri :unibrow:
Da, adica are clapeta de acceleratie pe fiecare cilindru.
S50us B30 in the 3.0 Liter US M3 (built from 1995 to 1996)
S50us B32 in the 3.2 Liter US M3 (built from 1996 to )
The S50us B30 and S50us B32 both develop 240 hp at 6000 rpm and
236 lb-ft/min.
S50 B30 in the 3.0 Liter Euro M3 (built from 1993 to 1995)
S50 B32 in the 3.2 Liter Euro M3 (built from 1995 to )
The S50 B30 develops 286 hp at 7000 rpm with 320 NM, the S50 B32 develops 321 hp at 7400 rpm and with 350 NM.
The US M3 engine is - from a constructors viewpoint - a tuned standard 3-series 6-cylinder motor: The S50us engine is a bored and stroked M50/M52 engine which was/is used in the 325i(s)/328i(s).
Most likely reason for the "De-Tuning" is the fact that the Euro M3 might be too expensive for the US market (in BMW's opinion) and would never have reached the successful sales numbers of the US M3. And offering the Euro M3 as a special edition for those who can afford it was obviously not an option for the following reasons: 1. Adapting it to the US emission regulations and having it certificated for the US market would have been too expensive for BMW, related to the small number of cars that would have been sold with the financially much more attractive S50us-powered M3 aside and 2. the US M3 would have lost some great amount of prestige (Keep in mind, that many US M3 buyers find out about the Euro M3 actually AFTER they purchased what they thought was the "original" one...). So, although the US M3 unfortunately is not a 100 percent "genuine" M-car, it still remains being a hell of a machine :-)
S50us B32 in the 3.2 Liter US M3 (built from 1996 to )
The S50us B30 and S50us B32 both develop 240 hp at 6000 rpm and
236 lb-ft/min.
S50 B30 in the 3.0 Liter Euro M3 (built from 1993 to 1995)
S50 B32 in the 3.2 Liter Euro M3 (built from 1995 to )
The S50 B30 develops 286 hp at 7000 rpm with 320 NM, the S50 B32 develops 321 hp at 7400 rpm and with 350 NM.
The US M3 engine is - from a constructors viewpoint - a tuned standard 3-series 6-cylinder motor: The S50us engine is a bored and stroked M50/M52 engine which was/is used in the 325i(s)/328i(s).
Most likely reason for the "De-Tuning" is the fact that the Euro M3 might be too expensive for the US market (in BMW's opinion) and would never have reached the successful sales numbers of the US M3. And offering the Euro M3 as a special edition for those who can afford it was obviously not an option for the following reasons: 1. Adapting it to the US emission regulations and having it certificated for the US market would have been too expensive for BMW, related to the small number of cars that would have been sold with the financially much more attractive S50us-powered M3 aside and 2. the US M3 would have lost some great amount of prestige (Keep in mind, that many US M3 buyers find out about the Euro M3 actually AFTER they purchased what they thought was the "original" one...). So, although the US M3 unfortunately is not a 100 percent "genuine" M-car, it still remains being a hell of a machine :-)
si la orice altceva inafara de motor difera :euuuh: ?
QUOTE (Iulika0069)
Ar fi interesant un kit de upgrade de la M50B25 la M50B30... aa, scuze, S50US
Ii rupi pe toti la legale, ca n-au cum sa iti demonstreze ca motorul are 3 litri :unibrow:
Ii rupi pe toti la legale, ca n-au cum sa iti demonstreze ca motorul are 3 litri :unibrow:
asta crezi tu, se poate demonstra........daca sti unde sa te uiti :paranoid:
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