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brown.shark
post Oct 14 2010, 09:31 PM
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by TiL: Topic pornit de aici: http://bmwzone.ro/forums/index.php?showtopic=6921&st=0

enucos, cine a dat gaurile alea in tabla ?
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post Oct 15 2010, 05:59 PM
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ce legatura are intrebarea ta cu topicul asta rechinas maro?

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post Oct 15 2010, 06:06 PM
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rechinas mai proaspat in e28, cunosti configuratia elementelor metalice ale caroseriei pt partea spate ( portbagaj ) pt masina asta ?
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post Oct 15 2010, 06:26 PM
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eu iti sugeram sa ramai ontopic.......atat.......lasa gaurile pt boxe
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post Oct 15 2010, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (brown.shark @ Oct 15 2010, 07:06 PM) *
rechinas mai proaspat in e28, cunosti configuratia elementelor metalice ale caroseriei pt partea spate ( portbagaj ) pt masina asta ?

In orice caz nu cred ca mai vei primi raspuns la intrebarea ta initiala; topic asta e ''mort" de aproape 2 ani.


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post Oct 15 2010, 06:39 PM
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ok bart, no pb, tu cred ca iti dadusesi seama deja de ce era vb...

haifisch - daca omul ar fi avut chef sa raspunda, il lamuream ca locul gaurilor alea nu-i acolo.
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post Oct 15 2010, 07:16 PM
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umm, hai sa dam cu offtopicul si apoi mutam in alta discutie. Ca sunt curios: ce nu-i in regula cu gaurile date acolo? Ca si eu tot pe-acolo le am, asa am luat masina. Am vazut la unele E28-uri ca au boxele puse mai spre centru, una langa alta.


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post Oct 15 2010, 07:51 PM
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da...si omul si-a dat altele....f posibil....pt ca si eu am constatat la mine o adevarata cioparteala tot acolo facuta de fostul proprietar

motivul ciopartirii in halul ala ar fi ca tabla este foarte groasa si nici macar unealta care e folosita de baietii care monteaza difuzoare nu face fata grosimii tablei....adica rupe lamele....
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post Oct 15 2010, 07:56 PM
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e28, de la mama ei, are acolo 2 CAVITATI formate in tabla panoului lunetei.
NU GAURI, pentru motivul binecunoscut.
iar difuzoare apropiate.....alta smecherie clever.

lamele se rup din cauza de lene multa (sau lipsa bani proprietar) si pt ca se foloseste scula gresit sau gresita...
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post Oct 15 2010, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (brown.shark @ Oct 15 2010, 08:56 PM) *
e28, de la mama ei, are acolo 2 CAVITATI formate in tabla panoului lunetei.
NU GAURI, pentru motivul binecunoscut.
iar difuzoare apropiate.....alta smecherie clever.

lamele se rup din cauza de lene multa (sau lipsa bani proprietar) si pt ca se foloseste scula gresit sau gresita...

m-ai dezamagit colegu'
ma asteptam sa ne spui cu ce presa a fost ambutisata tabla acolo la mama ei, adica cate tone forta, etc...
si pendularu'? ce putere sa aibe? panza sa fie bosch originala cu dinti ceaprazuiti sau nu?
pai suntem meseriasi sau ce suntem?
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post Oct 15 2010, 08:50 PM
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lucian - spui ceva in postul asta sau doar faci zgomot ?
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post Oct 15 2010, 09:13 PM
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si io am gauri de boxe acolo date cu autogenu cand am desfacut masina acu 3 ani biggrin.gif


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post Oct 15 2010, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (brown.shark @ Oct 15 2010, 07:39 PM) *
ok bart, no pb, tu cred ca iti dadusesi seama deja de ce era vb...

Ma crezi prea destept laugh.gif Nu stiu ce are acolo E28.

QUOTE (brown.shark @ Oct 15 2010, 09:50 PM) *
lucian - spui ceva in postul asta sau doar faci zgomot ?

Te rog, nu mai pune paie pe foc. Unii sunt mai catolic decat papa, altii mai practici.


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post Oct 15 2010, 10:20 PM
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eee, ma referam la difuzoare descentrate.

tu ai dreptate cu paiele, dar nu era mai bine sa posteze in cunostinta de cauza, vorbim vorbe sau spunem ceva ?

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post Oct 16 2010, 07:53 AM
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eu am spus ceva, nu stiu daca ai inteles tu.
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post Oct 16 2010, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (lucian @ Oct 16 2010, 08:53 AM) *
eu am spus ceva, nu stiu daca ai inteles tu.

cind o sa intelegi de ce neamtul a facut cavitatile in loc de gauri, mai vorbim, pina atunci, google it.... search.gif
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Si E30-ul are ceva asemanator. Am vrut sa-i schimb difuzoarele si cand colo m-am pomenit ca n-aveau loc. Chiar daca nu e o cavitate, e un gol sub care are o armatura, practic. Plm, nu stiu cum sa explic. Oricum, eu i-am pus blaupunkt slim, ca altceva n-am gasit sa se potriveasca.





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post Oct 16 2010, 02:21 PM
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Eu m-am prins, cred wink.gif
Hint: ati observat ca bass-ul se pierde prin portbagaj?
Din pacate cavitatile alea erau prea mici pentru boxele din ziua de azi. Eu le am suite pe un blat gros de lemn... poate ca ar fi incaput totusi. Dar... n-am sa stiu niciodata biggrin.gif E taiata tabla deja.

In plus, membrana difuzorului ar putea fi fortata pentru ca nu lucreaza in cutie inchisa. Din cauza asta bass-ul scos mi se pare foarte puternic. Dar cum spuneam, cea mai mare parte ramane in portbagaj.
Oricum, sunt foarte multumit de sunetul din E28, am avut si boxe ieftine(ceva noname), si medii (sony xplod). N-am avut scumpe.


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post Oct 16 2010, 03:46 PM
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xox + TiL - pt dimensiunea in adancime aveti dreptate, se gasesc 2 variante de difuzoare personalizate pt gama e28/e30, cu aceiasi dimensiune a celor 4 gauri de prindere, dar cu profunzimi diferite datorate magnetilor si a rilei de cauciuc.cine vrea mai multa putere, cumpara un distantier care se pune sub capacul original de BMW. au fost si pt masinile astea kit-uri de marca, studiate, aveau tot un distantier dar din lemn, parea ca ai acolo o carte sau o cutie de bomboane, ca sa fac o comparatie banala.

TiL - fara sa t supar, ca nu am vreun motiv, ai ramane mirat sa auzi cum sunau niste blaupunkt / pioneer / clarion din perioada aia, mici doar pt dimensiunea originala. acolo, la spate, dif trb sa stea cat mai departate p a avea un minim efect stereo. asa cum le ai tu montate, cu gauri, practic ambele difuzoare lucreaza in aceeasi incinta (portbagajul), deci nu cred ca mai discutam despre db , efect stereo, backpressure, defazare semnal....

problema cea mai importanta apare la inchiderea capotei portbagajului, ca sa nu scriu mult geaba, puneti o coala A4 in locul fiecarui difuzor si inchideti portbagajul....va lamuriti instant...

cine vrea bass la masinile astea 2, face o cutie d calitate, cum erau lazile de scule la dacie, cu bass-ul centrat pe cotiera, si cu 2 bass-reflex scoase prin planul dintre bancheta si luneta. pune niste medii bune in locul unde sunt cavitatile si niste tweetere pe stalpii spate....enjoy....statia se pune sub bancheta la e28, la e30 nu mai tin minte cat loc este, la e28 am pus si ventilatoare de calculator pe peretele de sub bancheta sa raceasca / ventileze statiile.


obiectii ?

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Asa-i, cand inchizi portbagajul stresezi inutil membrana, ajungi s-o rupi la un moment dat.

Sunt curios cum e la E46, ca parca mi-as schimba boxele. Desi unit-ul e de vina pentru receptia proasta la radio. Oricum, am sa studiez problema dupa ce iau alt unit care sa accepte magazie de cd-uri.


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