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post Jan 4 2013, 11:23 PM
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Lagere de la ax unde iese din motor. Tine de bibilit. Dar logic ca daca ai desface, curata si unge ce e acolo, iese ceva mai serios decat ceva aplicat din afara fara sa desfaci.


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post Jan 5 2013, 09:32 AM
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CITAT(TiL @ Jan 4 2013, 11:22 PM) *
Tu ai reusit vre-odata sa bagi vaselina cum trebuie la lagare, pe toate partile? Sau macar ai incercat? Eu mi-am zdrelit degetele de fiecare data si tot n-am fost multumit de rezultat.
Plasticele alea incurca mult, dar e riscant sa le scoti. Unul din motarele pe care le am de rezerva are un zbat schimbat, dar cel schimbat nu mai e prins rigid pe ax si e si putin crapat.

ti-am zis: l-am dat jos cu totul, dus in casa, schimbat carbuni, gresat. nu m-au incomodat cu nimic zbaturile.
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post Jan 5 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (TiL @ Jan 4 2013, 11:22 PM) *
Tu ai reusit vre-odata sa bagi vaselina cum trebuie la lagare, pe toate partile? Sau macar ai incercat? Eu mi-am zdrelit degetele de fiecare data si tot n-am fost multumit de rezultat.
Plasticele alea incurca mult, dar e riscant sa le scoti. Unul din motarele pe care le am de rezerva are un zbat schimbat, dar cel schimbat nu mai e prins rigid pe ax si e si putin crapat.

ti-am zis: l-am dat jos cu totul, dus in casa, schimbat carbuni, gresat. nu m-au incomodat cu nimic zbaturile.


Asa i!E mai greu sa pui la loc carcasele alea de plastic!Nu trebuie sa dai paletii jos ca sa umblii la motor!Doar daca ti pui ambitia! smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2013, 03:29 PM
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post Jan 5 2013, 05:48 PM
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Nu cred ca e nevoie, a mers 35 de ani si asa.

Azi am inlocuit ceas (timp) cu una functionala, imi place sunetul lui mechanic.
A inceput sa curge in final robinet de caldura, sub pres fata e ud total. Am tot amanat momentul (reglaj nu mai mergea dar macar nu curgea), dar nu scap de investitie asta.


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post Jan 5 2013, 06:50 PM
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si eu am aceeasi problema.de cand sta am balta sub pres.saptamana viitoare ma apuc sa desfac.sunt niste o-ring-uri pe acolo din cate am vazut cand am spalat aeroterma in vara.nu stiu de ce nu am remediat de atunci problema ca am desfacut-o pe toata.


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post Jan 5 2013, 11:17 PM
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Pentru ca de obicei curge pe la ax de unde iese tija pentru reglaj. A mea am desfacut-o mai de mult, deja era umblat in ea, deranj atunci era ca nu puteam sa opresc caldura. Am rezolvat-o de nu se poate, dupa o saptamana iar aveam caldura permanent. Dar macar nu curgea, pana in iarna asta. Pe net se plang toti cu E12 ca la un moment dat le curge robinetul asta. Am impresie ca axa de la reglaj trece prin un fel de camasa de cauciuc, si daca asta s-a uzat, nu mai prea ai ce s-o faci. A mea avea deja un o-ring in plus acolo care aparent a tinut un pic.
Am gasit si alta SH acuma 2 ani, dar curgea ca la balamuc, tot la axa. So, de data asta, o sa caut una noua, dar e scump ca dracu.
Alternativ e sa-l sigilez si sa reglezi debit prin alta metoda. Era interesant daca ceva E28 era adaptabil, electromechanic cu reglaj automat chiar ar fi un progres.

Macar am aflat unde tot pierdea antigel ultima vreme. S-a dus un litru cel putin in mocheta. Nu sa va usuce pana la vara probabil. O sa am ceva mai multe rugina. O sa scot pres de cauciuc si o sa merg cu ventilatie pornita numai la picioare cat se poate, s-o mai ajut.


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post Jan 5 2013, 11:32 PM
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Cred ca ai putea sa pui un furtun la cele 2 tevi dupa ce desfaci robinetul, iar dupa aceea la e21 robinetul de caldura la cele facelift este afara, ai putea sa pui unul iar tija sa o conectezi la comanda din bord, numai sa iti ajunga cablul.


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post Jan 5 2013, 11:43 PM
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Probabil da, dar nu prea am timp si nici piese prin dulap ca sa fac teste. Imi trebuie o solutie rapida, ca nici yaris nu mai merge, e la doctor.
Nu pot sa inteleg cum au ajuns cei de la BMW se pune asa o prostie de robinet pe o masina. Adica, desigg mechanic mi se pare prost.

De cand am masina ma enerveaza, intai prin caldura excesiva, acuma prin inundare. Mai e si un chin sa-l schimbi.


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post Jan 7 2013, 06:25 AM
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in româna, ce experimentezi tu acum cu e12 se numeşte "dragoste cu năbădăi"...


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post Jan 8 2013, 11:47 PM
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CITAT(bartro @ Jan 5 2013, 05:48 PM) *
Nu cred ca e nevoie, a mers 35 de ani si asa.

Azi am inlocuit ceas (timp) cu una functionala, imi place sunetul lui mechanic.
A inceput sa curge in final robinet de caldura, sub pres fata e ud total. Am tot amanat momentul (reglaj nu mai mergea dar macar nu curgea), dar nu scap de investitie asta.

boala grea...si eu am patit la e12 acum 4 ani, din fericire am schimbat bord si aeroterma de e28 care nu mai are un asa robinet nemernic biggrin.gif


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post Jan 10 2013, 10:06 AM
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Azi dimineata, -10 grade, s-a simtit frigul; dupa pornire nu mergea servodirectie. Dupa un minut s-a remediat singur. O fi din cauza lichid veche?


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post Jan 10 2013, 12:25 PM
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Posibil sa fi inghetat lichidul pe vreo conducta...


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post Jan 11 2013, 12:27 AM
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Azi dimineata, -10 grade, s-a simtit frigul; dupa pornire nu mergea servodirectie. Dupa un minut s-a remediat singur. O fi din cauza lichid veche?

si eu pateam la e12, cu lichid nou (cca 5luni) mobil atf220, cand era ger dimineata scartaia cand viram cat de putin,mergea volan greu o lasam un pic sa se incalzeasca si apoi isi revenea.


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Poate ca din cauza frigului si-a mai pierdut din proprietati si-a devenit mai viscos smile.gif


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post Jan 11 2013, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE (Mihai_AMD @ Jan 11 2013, 12:27 AM) *
QUOTE (bartro @ Jan 10 2013, 10:06 AM) *
Azi dimineata, -10 grade, s-a simtit frigul; dupa pornire nu mergea servodirectie. Dupa un minut s-a remediat singur. O fi din cauza lichid veche?

si eu pateam la e12, cu lichid nou (cca 5luni) mobil atf220, cand era ger dimineata scartaia cand viram cat de putin,mergea volan greu o lasam un pic sa se incalzeasca si apoi isi revenea.


La mine era invers!Dimineata pe frig mergea super usor apoi cand se incalzea mergea putin mai greu!
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post Jan 11 2013, 09:35 AM
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La mine era invers!Dimineata pe frig mergea super usor apoi cand se incalzea mergea putin mai greu!

Da, si la mine e asa. Cu cat e mai cald, cu cat merge mai greu volanul.

Maine merg la munte, voiam sa merg cu E12, dar vad ca anuntat filtre RAR in trafic sad.gif
Cred ca o sa caut un alternativ.


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post Jan 11 2013, 11:41 PM
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RAR-ul e pentru omologari/stare tehnica sau doar pentru cauciucurile de iarna?

In ce statiune pleci? Ma duc si eu in poiana dimineata, dar nu cu masina mea nici cu conserva de serviciu.


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post Jan 12 2013, 08:49 AM
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au zis la tv ca pe langa stare tehnica verifica si autenticitatea
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post Jan 14 2013, 10:12 PM
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Nu m-am dus departe, Azuga, ca e timp putin. Pentru VP cred ca a fost destul de ok.
Pana la urma am imprumutat VW diesel a cumnatului meu (multumesc). Generatie motor diesel mic cu turbo. E destul de fain, masinuta. M-am bucurat ca nici cu asta nu am putut sa urc o panta cu zapada.


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