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post Dec 22 2010, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (bartro @ Dec 22 2010, 10:55 AM) *
QUOTE (TiL @ Dec 21 2010, 11:19 PM) *
asta-i photoshopata

Da, masina e de fapt o Toyota tongue.gif

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Si mie mi se pare dubios sa vad masina cu acul fix la jumate indiferent de conditii. Devin suspicios si paranoic cand vad asa ceva biggrin.gif
Dar nici sa oscileze prea mult, asa cum vad la supernova de exemplu. urca spre 100grade, intra ventilatorul, raceste destul de mult si tot asa. Prea chinuie motorul cu dilatari/contractari.

In schimb la E28, pot fi oscilatii mari, insa pe perioade mari de timp. Cobori mult in frana de motor scade pana spre albastru. Mergi in trafic, urca putin peste jumate, intra vascul, aduce la jumate si tot asa.


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La mine la E46 statea inainte fix pe jumate acul, acum dupa ce i-am schimbat electroventilatorul urca putin peste, 1mm sad.gif

Si nu face asta mereu, de obicei doar cand e frig afara. In vara cand era extra mega uber cald statea fix pe mijloc si urca peste jumatate doar seara, cand era mai rece. Ciudat.


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post Dec 22 2010, 11:06 PM
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o fi masina inteligenta si porneste electroventilatorul mai tarziu daca e frig afara?


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Nu, cred ca unitatea de comanda nu lucreaza in parametri. Chinese stuff.


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post Dec 23 2010, 12:24 AM
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Am mers 50km de pana acuma cu motor refacut. Nu merge deloc bine masina. Bloc cred ca e bun, dar orice alceva incepe sa pica acuma. Azi seara mi s-a oprit motor la urcare pe podul grant, nu mai am pornit. Am scos ceva scule din portbagaj, pana la urma a pornit, dar sau merge cat de cat, sau intrerupe, sau opreste si e greu de pornit, sau o ia la sfert.


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post Dec 23 2010, 09:00 AM
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poate e o problema de alimentare ?Poti sa incerci sa ai iei compresia eventual smile.gif


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post Dec 23 2010, 05:04 PM
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La alimentare ma gandesc si eu...

Ceva gunoaie, sau mai degraba sa nu traga aer pe unde ar trebuii sa traga benzina, ceva furtune coapte...

Verifica si pompa de benzina! weakbench.gif celb (4).gif


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post Dec 23 2010, 05:55 PM
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Avem asa dupa investigarile de azi:
- senzor aprindere dereglat in asa fel ca venea scanteie cand rotor nu era in zona de fisa/capac delcou. Asta sa intampla cand avea avans vacuum mult.. inainte sa umblu la motor ralantiu era mai ridicat (deci avans mai putin) si nu ma-m lovit de problema asta.
- la capac delou a picat 'varf de creion' sau cum sa spune si mai pierde si acolo din scanteie
- benzina muuulte in ulei probabil din cauza ca s-a stricat pompa de benzina.


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post Dec 23 2010, 06:41 PM
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Benzina intra destul de multa si doar daca ai probleme la aprindere, cum ar fi o fisa pe duca, ce nu produce aprindere decat dupa 2000rpm


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post Dec 23 2010, 08:06 PM
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In orice caz, treb sa schimb iar ulei, avea 50km smile.gif


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post Dec 23 2010, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (bartro @ Dec 23 2010, 08:06 PM) *
In orice caz, treb sa schimb iar ulei, avea 50km smile.gif

Imi e dor de bmw ul meu dar cand te vad cat te chinui si cate schimbi ma mai lasa dorul biggrin.gif .Oricum in ultimul an nu mi mai cazuse nimic la el si mergea chiar frumos.Asta dupa ce am schimbat fff multe de pe el.Poate te incurajeaza laugh.gif .E bien ca ai rabdare de fier.Sal.
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post Dec 24 2010, 12:43 AM
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Bart, cu benzina in ulei termini rodajul mai repede wink.gif


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post Dec 24 2010, 09:14 AM
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post Dec 24 2010, 10:06 AM
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Stiu.. sad.gif De cand am vazut, nu mai merg cu masina pana nu schimb ciorba aia. De sa fac. Se pare ca masina trece prin o perioada in care pica toate. Sper sa se termine in curand, ca incep sa fiu dezamagit.


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post Jan 8 2011, 09:21 PM
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Intre timp Interceptor a fost foarte amabil si a schimbat ulei la masina. Vrioam sa fac operatiunea asta la mine in parcare, dar nu am reusit sa desfac surub de golire. Masina a primit si un termostat nou, temperatura a apei urca acuma cum trebuie. S-a mai schimbat si cat un furtun la sistem de racire cu ocazia asta.

Sunt dezamagit ca nu prea am caldura in masina. Vara asta m-am topit, acuma nu mai vrea.

Mai urmeaza sa primesc o pereche de amortizoare fata cu gaz de pe evilbay si un avans vacuum nou si capac de delcou nou, ambele pentru distribuitor.


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post Jan 8 2011, 09:45 PM
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fereste-te de vernet sau qh pt. termostat. behr chiar daca e mai scump.
super adevarat. vernet de la noi sunt niste facaturi din iran si QH china shit. BEHR e si mama si tatal termostatelor !

Cumva tija impingatoare din chiulasa a fost prea lung, a impins asa tare in pompa de s-a fisurat carcasa ei.
bart, pompa de benzina si tija nu sunt cele cu care ai cumparat masina ?

n-ai caldura nici cu thermostat new ?
ventilatorul de la aeroterma l-ai gresat ? are turatie buna ?
radiatorul de caldura e curatat interior / exterior ?
baga-i o bucata de carton de 10 cm latime jos la radiator, sa vezi cum incalzeste si sa protejezi radiator de sare. normal ar trb spalat rad cu jet cu apa calda inainte si dat cu motorina.

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post Jan 8 2011, 10:35 PM
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Termostat nou e ca si cel veche un wahler. Vedem daca tine. Temperatura motorului urca ok si sta bine acuma.
Ventilator sa invarte ok la aeroterma, dar iese aer calui, deci cumva problema e sau la debit de apa calda in radiator, sau nu trece aer prin radiator. Cum robinet de caldura are urme de umblaciuni pe afara, poate problema e acolo. Un robinet din asta costa > 400Ron si am avut chestii mai importante de rezolvat. O sa vedem mai spre primavara / vara daca trebuie inlocuit sau daca mai merge. Nu mor de frig in masina pana atunci.

Da, pompa si tija au ramas la fel. O fi fost diferit axa cu came care le actioneaza?


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post Jan 8 2011, 10:38 PM
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cand ai timp pune o poza cu robinet. nu se poate inlocui robinet cu un by-pas, sa ai debit full ?

pai voi, daca ati schimbat axele, n-ati verificat / masurat camele ? putea sa faca urat / o bataie si daca tija era mai scurta decat trb...
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post Jan 8 2011, 10:49 PM
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A fost inlocuit chiulasa cu tot, si nu a fost verificat, n-am fost nici la fata locului ca sa ma interesez cand s-a montat. Neatentie, se mai intample, s-a rezolvat.

Robinet e o chestie dubioasa, nu cred ca prea exista alternative, piesa 1:




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CITAT(brown.shark @ Jan 8 2011, 09:45 PM) *
fereste-te de vernet sau qh pt. termostat. behr chiar daca e mai scump.
super adevarat. vernet de la noi sunt niste facaturi din iran si QH china shit. BEHR e si mama si tatal termostatelor !

sa fiu eu oare singurul ghinionist?sad.gif
in toamna am luat behr,88ron,pt m20...am lasat pornit motor in curte,apa trecuse 1mm de jumate si caldura nu era gram...m-am enervat,lam pus la loc pe al meu,care am vrut sa il schimb asa degeaba,si a functionat normal in continuare...
de la aerisire nu era vb,eu nu am aerisit niciodata instalatia cand am demontat remontat termostat la m20
bart scuze de off*

ma uit pe la mine daca mai am vreun robinet wink.gif il fac cadou

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