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post Jul 21 2010, 02:18 AM
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post Jul 21 2010, 07:17 AM
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Pai da...
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senzatia de plutit pe valuri de autostrada in E12 cu caldura permanenta si fara amortizoare: priceless!


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what? without malfunctions? laugh.gif

Da, without malfunctions smile.gif
A fost asa-zisul maiden voyage pentru mine si masina mea in afara de localitate. Scopul a fost plimbarica, luat ceva piese de la DB85AMD, si test ca sa vad daca merge pana sovata rolleyes.gif


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post Jul 21 2010, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE (Sportivu @ Jul 20 2010, 10:17 PM) *
Ii place tare de tot sa traga din "cubanez" si sa pufaie, dar trage intr-un mare fel laugh.gif Am fost uimit de E12-le asta. Mai un zgomot de cardan, mai un diff fluierator, barcuta de fata, dar chiar trage super masina. 2.8 cu carburi... wub.gif merita facuta din bara in bara, parerea mea ca bart are o baza buna pentru start.

LE: am senzatia ca "si-a mai dat drumul" putin odata cu drumul asta... sa vedem ce zice Mos` Bart laugh.gif

Haleste ulei de nu mai am vazut asa ceva. Mai ales la frana de motor. A condus si nitel domnul Sportivu, a pus frana de motor pe la 160km/ora, si a reusit performanta de facut fum ca sa fie acoperit 2 benzi de autostrada pe o distanta de o suta de metri. Cred ca mananca 1 litru per 100km daca mergi mai tare. La viteza de 100km/ora pare mai acceptabil insa.
Sportivu, ai uitat sa spui ca nu poate fi oprit caldura tongue.gif si ca motor cam bate. Sa sti ca cand am mers spre casa chiar mergea mai bine masina, parca e mai nervoasa, reactioneaza mai bine la pedala (de acceleratie).



QUOTE (haifisch @ Jul 20 2010, 10:19 PM) *
ahaaa....deci bart a avut si ajutoare in caz de ceva smile.gif

Recunosc ca prezenta de co-pilot a fost linistitor..

QUOTE (TiL @ Jul 20 2010, 11:18 PM) *
.. senzatia cu amortizoare duse e unica, plutesti pe valuri biggrin.gif

Faza ciudata e ca pe spate are amortizoare noi. Cand trec un limitator sin asta de viteze cu rotile fata nu simt nimic, apoi cu spate sar in sus. Sau cand iau o groapa imi dau seamna numai cand trec si cu roata spate prin ea. Pe autostrada s-a simtit destul de dubios pe valuri, intai pe fata nu simti nimic, apoi spate sa ridica, si totodata, fata coboara laugh.gif , cum am zis: priceless.

All in all masina merge. Bate, huruia, cardan freaca ceva, barca, fum, dar merge. Sovata, here we come!


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post Jul 21 2010, 04:11 PM
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Haleste ulei de nu mai am vazut asa ceva. Cred ca mananca 1 litru per 100km daca mergi mai tare.

Sau pe ora de zbor!!!... smile.gif


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post Jul 21 2010, 07:20 PM
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Cred ca mananca 1 litru per 100km daca mergi mai tare.

Sa-i pui indicator de consum instant... ulei biggrin.gif


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post Jul 21 2010, 08:42 PM
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Am indicator de consum instant, sa numeste oglinda retrovizoara.

Azi m-am uitat pentru prima data sub husele de pe scaune. La sofer nu prea mai e tapiterie pe scaun.. sa vede par de cal maroniu ce mai a ramas, si arcuri. Peste era o paturica smile.gif . Oare mai gasesc material? E un fel de gri bej cu un pic de verde. Cred..


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post Jul 22 2010, 08:21 AM
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vorbeste cu Interceptor si iti zice el de unde a luat material pentru 3.0si.


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post Jul 23 2010, 08:41 AM
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http://piese-auto.anunturi-auto.4tuning.ro...0i-9279385.html , m-am gandit ca poate iti faca vreun ajutor informatia...
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post Jul 23 2010, 09:44 AM
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Mersi Sportivu, dar nu am de gand sa trec la motronic smile.gif


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post Jul 23 2010, 11:28 AM
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So , prioritati la e12 ar fi cam asa:
- refacut motor. Sa zicem ca bloc in sine e bun (fara zgriaturi etc) si chiulasa necesita interventii minora. Cost estimat 2000RON.
- refacut tren de propulsiune de la cutie pana la diferential. Am o cutie, si un cardan. Diferential poate pun de 528i care e un pic mai lung (3.45 fata de 3.64). Cred ca o se fie Ok pentru ca cutie gasit e in 5 viteze cu rapoarte scurte. Cheltuieli pana acuma 1000RON.
- refacut suspensie fata. Poate scap doar cu amortizoare. Cost sa zicem 500RON daca gasesc amortizoare la un pret foarte bun.
- refacut tapiterie. Se pare ca un interior (scaune, bancheta, tetiere) complet retapitat duce spre 1000RON. Fara material.
- protejat caroserie de rugine + remediat gurici mici care sunt. cost ? munca multe.

Deci am in vedere cheltuieli necesare in valoare de 3500RON fara sa ma apuc de caroserie.


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post Jul 23 2010, 11:57 AM
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asa iti trebuie Bart daca ai vrut e12 tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif .glumeam.
nu iti mai face calcule ca o sa depasesti cu mult suma propusa.iti zic din experienta.eu am depasit lejer la mine 8000 si inca nu se vede mare lucru si mai am mult de bagat.dar incet incet le rezolvi smile.gif


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post Jul 23 2010, 12:01 PM
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Stiu ca treb sa dau X 2 la orice estimare. Nu e problema. Devina o problema daca ma gandesc ca pe E32, o masina buna, la vanzare nu o sa iau bani ca sa acoper ce e de facut la E12.


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post Jul 23 2010, 12:21 PM
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normal ca nu o sa iei pe e32 cat sa acoperi reparatia la e12.
e12-le e o masina speciala care inghite bani multi biggrin.gif


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Azi am primit de la Lucian (multumesc!) un diferential de E12. Raport 3.45. E un pic mai lung fata de diferential de pe masina (3.64), dar cand urc cutie close ratio pe masina cred ca va fi o combinatie buna.

Am micsorat avans un pic, parca parca merge cu mai multe viata. Un pic.


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post Jul 27 2010, 09:50 AM
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daca i-ai dat masina lui catalin e clar ca s-a desfundat cam tot ce trebuia sa se desfunde laugh.gif....lui ii cam place sa biciuiasca caii in general da nu prea ii place sa recunoasca laugh.gif

in legatura cu diferentialul e bine ce faci...intradevar trebuie un diferential lung la o cutie scurta ca sa iasa ceva frumos

poate o sa fie prea scurt cu 3.64 si motor refacut....o sa faca din tine un boy racer si cand mergi calm laugh.gif
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Sportivu a mers foarte elegant. Il am rugat eu frumos rolleyes.gif .
La cat de lesinat merge acuma nu pot sa-mi inchipui un E12 rapid tongue.gif
Avantaje sunt, Yaris pare acuma sprinten, de mobra nu va mai zic diablo.gif

Diferente intre diferentiale nu e foarte mare, cam 5%. Deci in a 4-a o sa am in loc de 3000rpm cam 2850 la 100km/ora.


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post Jul 27 2010, 11:13 AM
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mi-a zis Mihai ca ati fost la el, ma bucur ca acum Bart va merge mai linistit spre Sovata.


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M-am linisit atunci la circ cand am vazut ca masina are carlig de remorcat pe fata si cand am aflat ca tu ai sufa tongue.gif
Sa nu uiti ca am venit cu 2002 din olanda, de 2 ori, nu sunt riscofob.


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post Jul 27 2010, 03:40 PM
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CITAT(bartro @ Jul 27 2010, 12:21 PM) *
Sa nu uiti ca am venit cu 2002 din olanda, de 2 ori, nu sunt riscofob.

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QUOTE (haifisch @ Jul 27 2010, 10:50 AM) *
daca i-ai dat masina lui catalin e clar ca s-a desfundat cam tot ce trebuia sa se desfunde laugh.gif....lui ii cam place sa biciuiasca caii in general da nu prea ii place sa recunoasca laugh.gif

in legatura cu diferentialul e bine ce faci...intradevar trebuie un diferential lung la o cutie scurta ca sa iasa ceva frumos

poate o sa fie prea scurt cu 3.64 si motor refacut....o sa faca din tine un boy racer si cand mergi calm laugh.gif



laugh.gif recunosc, imi place sa-i biciuiesc, dar nu sa`i birjaresc. Stii bine ca eu nu mi-am batut niciodata joc de vreo masina de-a mea la capitolul asta, ba chiar am avut grija excesiva la capitolul consumabile si alte etc-uri.

Apropos de asta nu o sa uit cat o sa traiesc reactiile baietilor cand ne-am dat cu LOW-ul mare de la Gaesti la Leordeni laugh.gif (cand am fost la vopsitorul lui Mihaita)

@ Bart: esti tu modest, eu sustin cu tarie ca motorul tau acum trage bine, acum cand e pe ulei serios. Ma treceau transpiratiile cand se lasa de fund intr-a 4-a la 150 si cu acceleratia abia la jumate heat.gif

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