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post Aug 26 2011, 08:30 PM
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cei care n-au desfacut un surub in viata lor rog sa se abtina































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post Aug 26 2011, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (05aBi @ Aug 26 2011, 09:30 PM) *
cei care n-au desfacut un surub in viata lor rog sa se abtina
























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sarcastic_hand.gif tare... foarte tare... laugh.gif

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post Aug 27 2011, 12:28 PM
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ma confunzi....

in locul tau taceam...ca tacerea e de aur....prietene
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post Aug 28 2011, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (haifisch @ Aug 26 2011, 02:33 PM) *
schimba motorul si da-mi mie pe al tau smile.gif

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post Oct 15 2011, 05:11 PM
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Rezolvarea la problema de mai sus a fost in schimbarea calculatorului, eu avand injectie LE-jetronic imi trebuia un calculator LE-jetronic ( are 25 pini ca motronic ), si din cate am inteles de la MAD calculatorul de la motronic ar avea un fel de bobina inauntru care amplifica scanteia, deci si in cazul meu a fost la fel. Calculatorul de la L-jetronic ( 7 injectoare ) nu are acest tip de bobina avand mai putini pini.

Acum am terminat cu problema asta si am dat de alta, in sensul ca acum ceva timp mi-a picat vascul si am zis ca in loc sa cumpar altul, sa pun un electroventilator pe care il aveam deja. Toate bune pana aici. Mai departe: am terminat de montat cu tot ce trebuie electroventilatorul ( l-am pus atat pe sonda cat si la buton ), iar de fiecare data cand pornesc motorul imi urca apa pe ceas pana la rosu.
Mentionez faptul ca de la baza radiatorului pana sus la carcasa termostatului exista un furtun de aprox. 30 - 40 cm, acesta e rece de la baza radiatorului pana la jumatate, iar de la jumatate pana la carcasa termostatului e fierbinte. In cazul de fata electroventilatorul neavand ce sa raceasca din moment ce apa din radiator e deja rece. Pana acum am luat urmatoarele masuri si anume:
Am eliminat termostatul, presiune pe instalatia de racire am ( am deschis busonul de la vasul de expansiune si a sarit apa vreo 2m, apa care era foarte calda ), am scos aerul din instalatie prin surubelul din capul carcasei termostatului, robinetul de la caldura e deschis si cam atat pe moment ...
Ceva solutii, sugestii ?

Le: am verificat si furtunul acela mic care face legatura dintre varful radiatorului si vasul de expansiune ca nu cumva sa fie infundat.


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post Oct 15 2011, 06:12 PM
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Caldura ai? Multa? Pompa de apa e buna?

Problema e sau de aer in instalatie, de blocat circulatie cumva, de la termostat, sau de pompa de apa.

Dar ce faci , mai contruiesti o masina? Te miri ca ai probleme in momentul cand schimbi calculatoare intre ele de la alte sisteme de injectie smile.gif


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post Oct 15 2011, 11:14 PM
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Caldura nu am, deloc iar pompa de apa nu am apucat sa o verific pentru ca s-a lasat seara ...
Termostatul e in portbagaj deci s-a eliminat problema lui biggrin.gif Calculatoarele nu au fost ale mele, daca tot am avut pe mana cateva am zis sa le testez biggrin.gif


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post Oct 16 2011, 12:20 AM
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am patit si eu asa ceva, nu e aerisit suficient de bine, probabil ca a ramas pe undeva aer in instalatie si nu iese..sau poate pompa de apa


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post Oct 22 2011, 09:00 AM
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aer sau pompa. Si pune termostat ala la loc..


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post Oct 23 2011, 02:13 PM
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e normal sa tasneasca apa pe la buson? ca eu daca desfac busonul face doar un mic fass si atat, nu da afara, vezi sa nu cumva sa iti bage compresie in sistemul de racire, face bulbuci in borcan?


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post Oct 24 2011, 08:03 AM
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CITAT(Adrian Pintea @ Oct 23 2011, 02:13 PM) *
e normal sa tasneasca apa pe la buson? ca eu daca desfac busonul face doar un mic fass si atat, nu da afara, vezi sa nu cumva sa iti bage compresie in sistemul de racire, face bulbuci in borcan?

cam da,daca motorul e ajuns la temperatura optima,cu acul la jumate...
nu am incercat,decat la temperaturi mai joase si doar fasaie,poate ca daca era fierbinte sarea si 2m smile.gif
acum...poate 2m e mult,ia vezi,sa nu ai altele,banuiesc ca nu ai furtunele lemn cand e motorul cald


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post Nov 18 2011, 10:08 PM
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nu am e21,dar postez aici pt a nu mai face alt topic,ca tot am gasit acest topic despre m20b20...bine,problema la care cer ceva sfaturi poa sa fie si la m10/m30,,,
cum pot scapa de micile oscilatii la relanti?nu stiu de cate zeci de rotatii e vb,cert e ca la 3-4 secunde,se misca acul turometrului vreo 1mm ba in sus ba in jos,stiti voi,cand oscileaza relantiul...clapeta de acceleratie e ok,inchide ok e curata...capac distribuitor si lulea sunt noi,,,fisele zic eu sunt ok ca altfel se simtea ca intrerupe in mers sau?!...ce as crede eu,si nu am apucat sa le reglez cu lera la 0.7mm,sunt bujiile,regulator relanti e ok zic eu,oricum si cu altul la fel oscileaza,,posibil din cauza ca nu sunt distantele de 0.7 la eletrod egale(m-am jucat odata cu surubelnita acolo ca mi se pareau cam apropiate ),,,


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Nu cred ca e de la bujiile. Tu ai motronic, la care calculator regleaza ralantiu adaptiv. Adica, calculator masoare turatie, si regleaza prin motoras de ralantiu ca sa fie cat trebuie. Sistem asta e destul de sensibil si cred ca o mica oscilatie este acceptabil. La E32 uneori statea stabil, uneori avea mici oscilatii. Si in functie de temperatura, si in functie de la cat am reglat tachetii, ...


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post Nov 22 2011, 06:20 PM
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S-a rezolvat problema de mai sus, cred ca a avut aer pe instalatie pana la urma, nici eu nu mi-am dat seama exact pentru ca am mai facut diverse combinatii pe acolo si intr-un final si-a revenit. biggrin.gif
Acum alta problema, la relanti urca apa, porneste electroventilatorul si apa tot urca, cum accelerez putin la 2000 + ture apa scade, n-am mai patit pana acum asa ceva ...


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la mine nu s-a rez minora problema,am reglat bujiile pe 0.7mm,cam asa erau,una era cam la 0.8,relanti e identic,mai misca 1mm ba sus ba jos pe ac...in fine


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QUOTE (05aBi @ Nov 22 2011, 07:20 PM) *
Acum alta problema, la relanti urca apa, porneste electroventilatorul si apa tot urca, cum accelerez putin la 2000 + ture apa scade, n-am mai patit pana acum asa ceva ...


Radiator infundat? (in interior). Ai instalatia curata?
Sau e doar o coincidenta ca la scurt timp dupa ce porneste ventilatorul tu apesi acceleratia, dupa care se raceste motorul, ca nu se raceste imediat ce a pornit ventilatorul, oricum.


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@Mihai, am citit odata undeva un fix pentru oscilatii de ralanti la motronic.. solutia era o moneda care avea diametrul cat interiorul de furtun care intre in regulator de ralantiu (nu la cel de iesire spre admisie!) , cu o gaura de ceva mm in el, parca 3mm. Adica, mai obturezi. Daca oscilatia e din cauza felul in care motronic regleaza ralantiu, poate sa fie o solutie.


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QUOTE (05aBi @ Nov 22 2011, 06:20 PM) *
S-a rezolvat problema de mai sus, cred ca a avut aer pe instalatie pana la urma, nici eu nu mi-am dat seama exact pentru ca am mai facut diverse combinatii pe acolo si intr-un final si-a revenit. biggrin.gif
Acum alta problema, la relanti urca apa, porneste electroventilatorul si apa tot urca, cum accelerez putin la 2000 + ture apa scade, n-am mai patit pana acum asa ceva ...


sa nu fie cumva si pompa de apa obosita


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La asta ma gandeam si eu, dar totusi cum imi dau seama cand trebuie schimbata pompa de apa ? Inafara de sunetul pe care il scoate rulmentul atunci cand e pe duca si a pierderilor de apa.

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