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post Dec 26 2012, 08:33 PM
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am un bmw e 30 si nu pot porni deoarece pompa de benzina baga continuu ma poate ajuta cineva va roggggggggggg........ motor m10 jetronic. am schimbat releu pompa de benzina , pompa de benzina , am verificat firele,dar nu pot sa o pornesc helppppppppp!
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post Dec 26 2012, 08:36 PM
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inca vreo doua detalii: se pare ca pompa se invarteste imediat ce pune contactul, incontinuu. Asta n-ar trebui sa fie o problema majora, dar nu declanseaza electromotorul.
Nu stim daca ar porni trasa ca a venit zapada si inca nu-i incaltata de iarna.


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post Dec 26 2012, 09:21 PM
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This is why i don't like L-Jet.

Caut-o de cabluri, dar cel mai probabil s-a dus in balarii un senzor. Simte ca-i prea frig afara si baga benzina cu lopata. Ori calamina prin mufe si nu-ti face contact corect pe undeva.

Luciane, trebuia sa stii asta... tongue.gif

PS: porneste-o impinsa, nu trasa. Cauta 2-3 prin zona sa puna umarul.


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post Dec 26 2012, 10:13 PM
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Incearca trasa,ai mai multe sanse si e mai usor , ca e pe lant distributia!Ai verificat contactele de pe la electromotor?
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post Dec 26 2012, 11:49 PM
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cum adica pompa de benzina merge incontinuu?!nu inteleg?de verificat bateria,apoi electromotorul,pompa bazaie si amorseaza dupa ce pui contactul,so e normal.Edit jetronic vad ,locatie?poate ajunge careva sa ajute smile.gif

inca ceva cutie manuala sau automata?

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post Dec 26 2012, 11:52 PM
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cum adica pompa de benzina merge incontinuu?!nu inteleg?

Nici eu, parca l-jet amorseaza un pic cand pui contact, dar sa merge continu? Sune a defect de calculator sau instalatie electrica. Nu prea cunosc l-jet bine.


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post Dec 26 2012, 11:56 PM
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Faptul ca pompa merge incontinuu nu este o problema pentru ca injectoarele regleaza amestecul, la rechin aveam pompa pe direct si nu am avut probleme. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 27 2012, 12:19 AM
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Paste la ce am primit si eu pe pm:
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BMW E 30 e cu injectie si carburatie pompa trebuia sa-mi bage o data presiune dupa care sa se opreasca ca eu sa pot da la automat dar ea merge continuu si nu pot sa pornesc . am schimbat releul de benzina , am schimbat pompa de benzina(externa), si am verificat sigurantele , releiele toate sant ok nu mai stiu ce as putea sa-i fac ........sant disperata nici un mecanic nu a reusit sa o porneasca ........

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post Dec 27 2012, 07:33 AM
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masina e pe injectie sau carburatie?
a verificat cineva daca bujiile dau scanteie?
Pompa e normal sa bazaie
inca ceva ,pompa de benzina e noua sau sh?a fost montata corect?

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post Dec 27 2012, 07:41 AM
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pe injectie si carburatie , pompa e buna si instalata corect

da e normala sa bazaie dar ea baga continuu si nu se opreste bujiile sant ok
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post Dec 27 2012, 07:43 AM
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nu prea exista injectie si carburatie,scrie te rog ultimele 7 cifre din VIN -sunt trecute la talon -coloana numarul de identificare si asa ne dam seama exact daca ai injectie sau carburatie.
a umblat cineva la partea electrica inainte sa faca probleme?

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post Dec 27 2012, 08:27 AM
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ok,so masina pare Jetronic din ce am inteles
http://www.firstfives.org/faq/ljet/jetronic.pdf

asta am gasit eu,de aici daca preia cineva smile.gif
Din ce am inteles pompa merge inconitnuu cand se pune contactul,masina a pornit ajutata de cabluri dupa care nu a mai mers,motorul a fost segmentat!?
ultimele 7 cifre vin:
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so 318i L Jetronic zic eu


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post Dec 27 2012, 08:28 AM
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nr identificare BMW WBAAC710301455533 putere maxima 77 tipul 184 EB POATE AJUTA CU CEV.........
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:14 AM
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inca ceva in momentul cand vreau sa dau la automat electromotorul da sa-mi arunce bendixul dar nu are suficienta putere din cauza ca imi merge pompa continuu si imi ia din curent
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:20 AM
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Nu exista pompa sa consuma asa de mult in cat sa nu mai merge electromotor (daca ai baterie buna). Probabil s-a lucrat la masina si s-a produs niste probleme electrice.


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post Dec 27 2012, 10:27 AM
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bart
vezi si aici

http://bmwzone.ro/forums/index.php?showtopic=11260&hl=

poate unesti topicurile
vezi si pdf-ul din linkul pus de mine


pag 27 din linkul pus de mine:
Combo Relay – Power and interface for
the L jet system.
•Combo relay provides switched power to ECU and injectors
•Combo relay provides power to fuel pump (only when either air flow meter is
open or engine is cranking)
•Combo relays are built on PC boards which can get bad solder joints

din pacate sunt cam praf la Jetronic smile.gif


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post Dec 27 2012, 10:30 AM
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nu merge merge topics... trebuie mutat post cu post


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post Dec 27 2012, 10:35 AM
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atunci pun doar linkul ca ala e relevant biggrin.gif

http://www.firstfives.org/faq/ljet/jetronic.pdf

poate ajuta si pe altii ,oricum motorul e M10 clar si injectia Jetronic zic eu,nu cred ca mai era carburatie in 85


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post Dec 27 2012, 10:55 AM
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sigur e jetronic, a scris asta in primul post wink.gif Initial i-am cerut poza cu motorul sa ma lamuresc ce e, dar intre timp am stabilit ca e injectie jetronic.
Povestea pe scurt e: la un moment dat a aparut o figura electrica, releul de semnalizare clickaia, aparent fara sa semnalizeze si becurile. Cam tot in timpul ala nu-i mai placea cum trage motorul, slabise.
Un mecanic a zis ca trebuie segmentat. A segmentat. Dupa care a aparut noua problema, ca nu porneste. Initial pompa de benzina se comporta normal, baz scurt cand pui contact, dar dupa ultima tentativa de pornire ajutat de curent de la alta masina, pompa a inceput sa mearga in continuu iar electromotorul nu mai declanseaza.

Asa ca trebuie luata electrica la puricat.


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (TiL @ Dec 27 2012, 10:55 AM) *
Asa ca trebuie luata electrica la puricat.

Da. Poate sa fie o masa slabita, un scurt undeva intre 2 plus-uri, etc.


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