M20 la rece |
M20 la rece |
Oct 29 2012, 11:29 AM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
A mai patit cineva la M20 de cand a dat frigul sa vibreze motorul la relanti? L-am remarcat zilele astea, inainte nu facea deloc asa. Relantiul nu fluctueaza.
Bine, nu-s 100% convins ca-i de vina frigul, dupa ce se incalzeste tot mai vibreaza dar foarte foarte putin. Oare la ce sa ma uit mai intai? -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Oct 29 2012, 12:47 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,458 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 |
fise ,bujii , tampoane motor .
-------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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Oct 29 2012, 03:47 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Bucureşti Member No.: 556 Car: Ricsa Engine: Ricsa |
Poate fi si benzina proasta. Oricum multe BMW-uri pe benzina au probleme cu tremuratul la rece. V8-urile cel putin sunt cunoscute, dar si pe L6-uri se mai intampla. |
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Oct 30 2012, 01:02 PM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
Fise sau bujii le-am exclus, motorul merge perfect. Tampoane motor... am sa le verific dupa ce o urc pe elevator, nici nu m-am gandit la asta, dar s-ar putea sa fie un factor.
Benzina e de la AutoMat, o pompa automata, habar n-am de unde o cumpara ei. Dar n-am avut nici o problema cu ea, motorul se tureaza frumos, filtrul de benzina era ok cand l-am schimbat deci n-am griji. Plus ca M20 nu-i asa pretentios si dupa cum ziceam, relantiul e stabil si de turat se tureaza ok. Ar mai fi un factor, ca pute a benzina de-ti muta nasul la teava de esapament :/ Nu pot sa-mi dau seama ce se intampla, chiar asa multa benzina nearsa iese pe acolo? E atat de ciudat. -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Oct 30 2012, 02:15 PM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,950 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
In functie de temperatura motorului, injectie mai umble la cantitate de benzina injectata (si la avans daca ai motronic). Corectie e bazat pe niste asumptii asupra fel in care arde bezina la o temperatura anume, cat aer intre in motor, avans la aprindere, si ce o mai fi. Daca undeca pe motor ceva nu mai functioneaza in parametrii de fabrica, s-ar putea sa da gres sistemul de injectie la temperari anume.
Cu E32 m-am trezit ca la -16 grade nu mai pornea, dimineata undea langa Fagaras. Cauza, lipsa sonda de lambda si un debitmetru ciudatel. Am avut noroc ca a pornit dupa ce am scos mufa la debitmetru. La -10 nu facea probleme. Dupa ce am remediat defectiuni masina a pornit bine la orice temperatura, fara tremurat sau alte side-efecturi. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
To keep up with me You've got to walk like a panther tonight |
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Oct 31 2012, 09:25 AM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
I-am scos mufa de la debitmetru si tremura mai rau. Dar dupa ce am pus-o inapoi n-a mai tremurat aproape deloc, s-a comportat la fel ca si cand era cald :/ Inca nu m-am prins care-i manevra, oare ia semnal aiurea de la debitmetru sau ce se intampla? -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Oct 31 2012, 09:30 AM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,950 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
E si ea batrana.. Daca umblii la mufe, poate mai dai acolo cu ceva spray de curatat contacte sau WD40.
-------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
To keep up with me You've got to walk like a panther tonight |
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Oct 31 2012, 11:58 AM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
Exact asta am facut, dupa ce am postat, cand am coborat la ea i-am curatat mufa de la debitmetru cu wd40-ul (i-am luat un tub de 450ml) iar acu' tremura mai putin.
Contacte oxidate probabil. Da' macar e mai "uman" tremuriciu'. -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Oct 31 2012, 03:45 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Bucureşti Member No.: 556 Car: Ricsa Engine: Ricsa |
Spray-ul de contacte e o varianta mai buna decat WD-40 in situatia data.
WD-40, printre altele, lubrifiaza. |
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Oct 31 2012, 04:20 PM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,950 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
Stiu, dar probabil e mai bine decat nimic. Si spray de contacte are dezavantaje, e mai agresiv. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
To keep up with me You've got to walk like a panther tonight |
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Nov 1 2012, 10:31 PM
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64% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 30-January 08 From: bucuresti Member No.: 1,439 Car: EX E12/E36 Engine: 1.8 /318is m44 |
Stiu, dar probabil e mai bine decat nimic. Si spray de contacte are dezavantaje, e mai agresiv. Eu am vrut sa dau o mana de ajutor unui prieten care avea o mufa oxidata la un buton de gaz si ,surpriza, s-a topit butonul de la spray ul de contactePur si simplu se vedea cand ataca plasticul. |
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Nov 2 2012, 11:32 AM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
Nu stiu cum e cu spray de contacte, n-am folosit niciodata. WD-ul chiar daca lubrefiaza e bun si ca sa curate diverse chestii. E un soi de medicament universal, un "panaceu" cam asa ceva Glumesc, isi face treaba. Oricum, incep sa ma obisnuiesc cu tremuriciul si parca dispare si mai repede. Se si incalzeste repede monstrul asta cu 6 cilindri.
In schimb tot miroase a benzina -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Nov 4 2012, 05:51 PM
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45% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 30-June 07 From: Cluj-Napoca Member No.: 1,005 Car: E30 320i sedan '86 Engine: M20 2.0 130CP |
la mine miroase a benzina orice ias face din 2008 de cand am masina, avans reglat cu stroboscop si nimic tot asa, a avut 3 debitmetre 2 seturi de bujii fise un set, in totii anii astia si nimic tot benzina dupa tobe, consum 7-8 afara 15 oras, acum de o vreme s-a dus un injector cateodata intrerupe la relanti la semafor dar de tras trage bine
-------------------- Simfonia celor 6 cilindrii
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Nov 4 2012, 06:42 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,476 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Daca e blocat pe deschis, trage bine Maricel consumul in oras, afara e ok 7-8 -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Nov 5 2012, 03:55 AM
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9% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 23-January 10 From: bucuresti Member No.: 3,183 Car: e21 Engine: m10 315 75cp |
probabil unul din injectoare nu pulverizeaza cum trebuie , recomand metabond pt benzina , ' megalene '
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Nov 5 2012, 04:06 AM
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9% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 23-January 10 From: bucuresti Member No.: 3,183 Car: e21 Engine: m10 315 75cp |
sonda temp , capacul debitmerului este desfacut ? da-i cu un creion"moale" pe carbunele potentiometrului daca are uzura , mai poate fi uzura curelei de distributie , reglaj tacheti si cum am mai zis vreun injector vagabond
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Nov 5 2012, 09:30 AM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
15-17% in oras imi ia si mie daca merg mai "sportiv". In rest in jur de 12-13% si chiar nu ma deranjeaza, oricum nu merg prea mult cu ea.
Inca una nostima: am incercat sa-mi leg toba inapoi pe loc, s-a rupt urechea originala, cand am ridicat putin toba s-a crapat, curge benzina cu ulei din ea, cred, cu toate astea uleiul e la nivelul normal. O fi doar benzina? -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Nov 5 2012, 11:26 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,476 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
imposibil sa fie doar benzina... -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Nov 5 2012, 12:37 PM
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45% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 30-June 07 From: Cluj-Napoca Member No.: 1,005 Car: E30 320i sedan '86 Engine: M20 2.0 130CP |
Eu consum scot 12-13 doar vara cand sunt plecati studentii acasa si e mai liber orasul, clujul e un oras aglomerat.
Jetronicele astea sunt greu de depanat sa la faci sa mearga bine, in schimb nu te lasa in drum... Cand mi-am schimbat tot traseul de evacuare si am pus noi, mi-a disparut fumul alb la pornire la rece si vaporii de apa care ii scuipa This post has been edited by Adrian Pintea: Nov 5 2012, 12:39 PM -------------------- Simfonia celor 6 cilindrii
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Nov 6 2012, 08:18 PM
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9% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 23-January 10 From: bucuresti Member No.: 3,183 Car: e21 Engine: m10 315 75cp |
In functie de temperatura motorului, injectie mai umble la cantitate de benzina injectata (si la avans daca ai motronic). Corectie e bazat pe niste asumptii asupra fel in care arde bezina la o temperatura anume, cat aer intre in motor, avans la aprindere, si ce o mai fi. Daca undeca pe motor ceva nu mai functioneaza in parametrii de fabrica, s-ar putea sa da gres sistemul de injectie la temperari anume. Cu E32 m-am trezit ca la -16 grade nu mai pornea, dimineata undea langa Fagaras. Cauza, lipsa sonda de lambda si un debitmetru ciudatel. Am avut noroc ca a pornit dupa ce am scos mufa la debitmetru. La -10 nu facea probleme. Dupa ce am remediat defectiuni masina a pornit bine la orice temperatura, fara tremurat sau alte side-efecturi. la motronic poti regla avansul ? |
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