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post May 23 2014, 11:51 AM
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post May 23 2014, 02:32 PM
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post May 23 2014, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (bartro @ May 22 2014, 06:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Halogen @ May 15 2014, 08:34 PM) *
De ce nu va luati si voi motociclete vechi gen BMW ? sad (5).gif ce atata italiene japoneze ...

Daca vrei sa ne dai exemplu bun:




Mias dorii o motoreta dinasta maxim.. as fi vedeta cu ea pe strazi biggrin.gif
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post May 23 2014, 08:11 PM
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Ai fi doar hipster, atat. Motorul asta e de colectie, nu de plimbare smile.gif


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post May 24 2014, 07:29 AM
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Apropo de motoare de colectie, am vazut prin oras reclame cum ca ar fi in Bucuresti o expozitie cu 20 de motoare de colectie.
http://www.business24.ro/articole/expozitie+mall+promenada
http://www.manager.ro/articole/afla/expozi...esti-70213.html
Pare sa fie chiar la mine in cartier in noul mall, o sa merg si eu azi sau maine sa o vizitez.


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post May 24 2014, 08:18 AM
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CITAT(bartro @ May 23 2014, 12:28 PM) *
Da, m-am aliat cu cc-ul care are GUZ.
WTF, oil change every 3000km??

Da si filtrul de ulei il schimbi la cinci schimburi de ulei, adica 15000km. E ok daca bagi un ulei mineral 15w50, nu trebuie sa te avanti la un sintetic scump. Cred ca e mai bine daca respectam specificatiile motoretei, nu recomandarile producatorului de ulei.
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post May 24 2014, 10:06 AM
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Filtru se schimba, conform manual, fiecare 6000km.
O sa vad ce ulei pun cand vine momentul. Mineral in Bucuresti as evita, se degradeaza repede la temperaturi mari, si o sa cam fie cald. Deja bate avansul daca stau mai mult prin trafic. Cred ca cere niste bujii mai reci.


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post May 26 2014, 12:27 PM
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Cred ca e problema generala cu motoarele mai vechi cu "avansul". Nu le place benzina fara plumb, ele au fost concepute sa mearga cu benzina care nu se mai fabrica. Si eu ma confrunt cu problema. Ar fi cateva solutii posibile: marirea camerei de ardere, eventual cu o garnitura de chiulasa mai groasa si scaderea raportului de compresie, intarzierea avansului centrifugal, modificarea dimensiunilor supapelor, eventual alte solutii pe care ni le pot "vinde" specialistii sau cei care se pricep mai bine.
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post May 26 2014, 01:10 PM
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Din toate astea, raportat doar la M10B18 ca e singurul motor care-l stiu - din ce am citit se preteaza doar scaderea raportului de compresie. In felul asta mergi cu o explozie mai "docila" si mai aproape de felul in care a fost gandit motorul.

Acuma daca luam in considerare toate specificatiile lui, ar trebui reglat intr-adevar si avansul, dar mie-mi place sa cred in minuni biggrin.gif (cata vreme restul motorului lucreaza la parametrii proiectati, chestie cam greu de realizat, cred)


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post May 26 2014, 04:23 PM
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Parerea mea e ca scadere de compresie = crima smile.gif
Motoreta e din '96, e facut pentru bleifrei, presupun. Problema se pare ca e si din e jetting, generatie asta e facuta sa merge spre sarac. O sa pun niste bujii mai reci, sa vad ce mai am prin cutiile, mai trebuie sa pun si colortune, sa vad ce culoare are ardere, poate mai ridic ac, poate schimb cat un jiclor. Avansul nu am cum sa-l reglez, are aprindere electronica. Evenutal pot sa desfac furtun de depresiune catre aprindere, poate il pacalesc.
As putea sa incerc si benzina cu cifra octanica mai mare.


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post May 26 2014, 06:54 PM
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M20B27 eta n-a fost chiar crima, dar intr-adevar nu sunt familiar cu motoarili astea mai mici tongue.gif Eu doar am dat o idee...


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post May 27 2014, 09:05 AM
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Cel mai bun lucru la un eta e potential de tuning. Fie turbo, fie marirea de compresie sau ambele biggrin.gif , ca se poate cu sisteme de management moderne.


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post May 28 2014, 09:56 AM
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Parerea mea e ca scadere de compresie = crima smile.gif
Motoreta e din '96, e facut pentru bleifrei, presupun. Problema se pare ca e si din e jetting, generatie asta e facuta sa merge spre sarac. O sa pun niste bujii mai reci, sa vad ce mai am prin cutiile, mai trebuie sa pun si colortune, sa vad ce culoare are ardere, poate mai ridic ac, poate schimb cat un jiclor. Avansul nu am cum sa-l reglez, are aprindere electronica. Evenutal pot sa desfac furtun de depresiune catre aprindere, poate il pacalesc.
As putea sa incerc si benzina cu cifra octanica mai mare.

La a mea arderea este cum trebuie, am schimbat bujiile Bosch cu Champion, primele erau cam negre, astealalte sunt curate, de culoare caramiziu deschis.
Ciudat este ca bate avansul cand o accelerez progresiv, daca ii dau gaz ferm, nu mai tacane. Suspectez ca tot avansul centrifugal e de vina, poate s-au slabit arculetele. O sa-mi comand niste arcuri noi sa vad daca se schimba ceva.
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post May 28 2014, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (xox @ May 26 2014, 07:54 PM) *
M20B27 eta n-a fost chiar crima, dar intr-adevar nu sunt familiar cu motoarili astea mai mici tongue.gif Eu doar am dat o idee...



auzi la el cica nu e obisnuit cu motoarele astea mai mici , vorbesti de parca ai avut de la 4.0 v8 in sus snf (14).gif laugh.gif
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post Jun 10 2014, 03:41 PM
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Duminica, pentru pima data, am testat viteza maxima. Soc: e 120km/ora. Ce e drept, nu am avut o bucata lunga pentru accelerare, dar la 120 a ajuns repede, dupa care s-a stagnat acceleratie. Singur lucru simtibil cand deschidam gaz mai mult era o schimbare de sunet.


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post Jun 10 2014, 05:14 PM
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post Jun 10 2014, 09:37 PM
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E suficient bre 120 smile.gif Mie in masina mi-e greu la viteza asta. Singura oara cand m-am simtit confortabil asa, eram prin Germania. Dar, din pacate, nu traiesc acolo.


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post Jun 11 2014, 08:26 AM
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Suficient sau nu e ceva subiectiv. Obiectiv pot sa spun ca nu functioneaza motorul cum trebuie.


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In weekend am fost la mare, la o intrunire de motociclisti. Motoreta a mers bine, am trecut si de 120km/ora, dar pe la 140 si cu noroc mult 150 se termine treaba totusi. Cred o sa fac comanda la 2 jicloare de 105, acuma cele principale au 100 si am o impresie ca ramana fara sprit la acceleratie maxima.

Dimineata asta am avut probleme, mergea si mai rau in curbe si pe denivelari, si cand puneam frana fata se ducea unde voia. Intai am zis ca sunt eu prea obosit, dar am oprit si am constatat ca s-a distrus un rulment la roata fata. Se pare ca am avut mare noroc pe drumul din weekend. Acuma sper sa nu fie afectat si janta, roata are un joc maricel deja.


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