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> CRED CA E DE RAU! :((, 318TDS e36
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post May 24 2011, 05:28 PM
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de ce s-ar face presiune in baia de ulei cu teava aia infundata? eu vad problema la fel ca dani, nu mai bagi fum in admisie, bagi doar oxigen care intretine arderea. pompa de injectie injecteaza la fel de mult combustibil la o presiune de aer anumita. daca in aerul ala e mult fum care ingreuneaza arderea, asta nu e bine. daca e mai mult oxigen, motorul merge mai bine pentru ca arderea e completa. stati linistiti, nu scapa motorul combustibil nears decat daca turbina e pe duca si nu mai are oxigen care sa intretina explozia in cilindru, ca la Dacie cand are prea multa benzina reglata din carburator. e acelasi drac, dar imbracat in alte haine si cu mai multe fire. chiar as vrea sa vad pe un ceas EGT ce temperatura au gazele cu si fara EGR conectat. pana una-alta, sunt povesti zic eu cu presiunea in baia de ulei.


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post May 24 2011, 06:03 PM
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Eu stiam ca incinta baie ulei-distributie-culbutori e inchisa peste tot cu expectia "evacuarii" asteia. Si daca o infunzi, ori sare joja, ori pufnesc simeringurile.


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post May 24 2011, 09:46 PM
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ce legatura are EGR-ul care vine din galeria de evacuare cu ulei/distributie/culbutori? ca nu prea inteleg aici..


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post May 24 2011, 10:04 PM
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Eu am mers 2 ani fara EGR din cauza unui vacum.Abia acum am vazut ca nu functioneaza si i am gasit buba:doua furtunase inversate.Ca si parere dupa : mi a scazut consumul si trage mult mai bine in subture.Masina e pe benzina.Ma gandesc ca la diesel ar trebui sa fie acelasi principiu.
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post May 24 2011, 11:33 PM
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sorry, m-am uitat doar la ultimul post, nu stiam ca-i vorba de egr... despre care habar n-aveam ce face:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas_recirculation


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post May 25 2011, 08:55 AM
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@CRM112 daca imi poti spune si mie ce ai observat dupa ce ai anulat teava aia la 2.5tds, e cam acelasi motor, numa ca la mine e castrat de 2 pistoane....

Acum cu faza cu gazele, nu stiu ce sa va zic...nu cred ca bubuie nici un semering sau alte tampenii, presiunea in motor se face doar de la o singura chestie!!!! SEGMENTI TERMINATI, doar ei scapa compresia in baie si de acolo se ridica in tot motorul, de face tot un fum dinala alb...
Panarama aia de teava(am pus si poza cu ea sa vedeti la care ma refer) doar face legatura intre galeria de evacuare si admisia motorului, gazele sunt extrem de calde, dupa 30 min de mers cu masina nu poti pune mana pe teava aia, iar daca o luam logic galeria de evacuare are legatura doar cu supapele de evacuare si nimic altceva nu e acolo, adica fumul, gazele arse! Tinand cont ca am bagat in motor segmenti, cuzineti, unele supape noi, semeringuri tot motorul, garnituri peste tot, toate de calitate zic eu, nu cred ca e cazul unei fumigene, ca doar nu ii dau avans si debit de motorina pana in momentul de nu poate sa arda cantitatea de motorina injectata, pompa de injectie e reglata la parametrii de fabrica!

Astea fiind spuse o sa incerc sa astup si la admisie si la evacuare si gata, sa vad ce se mai intampla, oricum in rau nu cred ca are cum sa fie, banuiala mea, EGR asta e pus acolo de poluare, ii mai da o parte din fum in admisie sa mai arda inca o data, si nimic altceva nui scopul lui.

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post May 25 2011, 01:50 PM
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da, cam asta inteleg si eu din wikipedia. Reduce noxele pe moment, dar posibil sa creasca consumul, deci revine cu noxele la normal.


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post May 25 2011, 06:00 PM
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Si eu tot asta vad pe wiki, e doar o chestie de poluare si nimic mai mult, asa ca il dau jos, nu am nevoie de fum in admisie.

Daca stam bine si ne gandim ingreuneaza arderea, si consuma ceva mai mult, dupa ce o pornesc zic eu sambata, o sa va dau primele impresii ce si cum se comporta fara EGR, chiar o sa ii fac si consumul, in iarna asta lua 7.5.


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post May 26 2011, 07:06 PM
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astazi am montat tot motorul jos, iar maine vine unu cu un ifron volvo la mine sa il urcam pe masina...
Daca decurge totul bine, motorul fiind deja montat, o sa ii dau cheie! deabia astept!!!!!!!!!


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post May 27 2011, 09:05 PM
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am montat tot, a pornit la a 2 a cheie, motorul se aude super bine, nici macar nu a murdarit uleiul dupa 1 ora de functionare, deci asta e bine
acum am alta problema, nu stiu de ce, dar cand pun contactul nu se mai aprinde martorul de la ulei sad.gif( aveti idee de ce?


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post May 27 2011, 10:13 PM
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Verifica instalatia, poate s-a desprins firul undeva.
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post May 27 2011, 11:45 PM
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am pus firul la sonda de ulei, tot nu imi dau seama de ce nu merge, o sa mai investighez si maine...
o sa verific si becul la martorul de ulei din bord, poate e ars, dar asa din senin imi este greu sa cred.

PS:Exista poate o posibilitate sa nu fi pus firele cum trebuie acolo, sunt 3 mufe identice ca cea de la sonda de ulei, imi poate da cineva o schita ceva cum e la modelul asta cu firele pe motor?

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post May 28 2011, 12:06 AM
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am gasit un site care ptr unii poate fi de folos.
http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/e36/318tds_%...l_transmission/


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post May 29 2011, 04:58 PM
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chiar nu are nimeni un manual de reparatii 318tds?

PS: mi a trimis cineva manual de reparatii bmw diferite modele, ocupa cam un cd, dar nu stiu sa il instalez, daca e interesat cineva, il poti trimite, poate va descurcati voi cu instalarea lui...

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post May 31 2011, 12:12 AM
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am verificat mufele, am verificat becurile in bord, m am uitat la panoul de sigurante, dar tot nu se aprinde martorul de la ulei sad.gif(, aveti idei ce sa mai verific, chiar se poate strica sonda aia din senin?
PS: chiar nu are nimeni un manual de reparatii in engleza ptr 318tds?


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post May 31 2011, 08:23 AM
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Un test simplu; leaga contact de la sonda direct la bloc (pamantare) daca sonda are un singur ocntact. Daca are 2 contacte, faci un scurt intre ele. Daca sa aprinde bec de ulei (pui contact!) asa, sonda e stricata. Daca nici asa nu sa aprinde, sonda probabil e buna dar undeva pe traseu firele sunt intrerupte.
Daca ai un multimetru poti verifica si sonda, pune-l sa masoare Ohm si masori sonda, trebuie sa da rezistenta foarte mica cu motor oprit, si rezistenta infinit cu motor pornit.

La E12 am o sonda care uneori nu functioneaza cu saptamani, apoi isi revine.. posibil e orice.


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Bartro, mi ai fost de mare ajutor!!! Cu electrica eu stau cam la pamant...
Deci sa inteleg si eu (mufa la sonda de ulei are doar 1 fir, asa se vede acolo cand scor mufa, dor un papuc dinala) deci fac legatura directa cu un fir cu mufa si cu blocul si apoi pun contactul si trebuie sa se aprinda martorul?


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Cum am facut ce mi ai spus, imediat s a aprins martorul de ulei in bord! Din chestia asta reiese ca sonda e nasoala, acum eu ma gandeasc cum s a intamplat chesti asta, pur si simplu s a stricat din senin?
Cand am dat motorul jos mergea, cand l am pus nu mai e buna...

Acum sa va zic si primele impresii despre motor cum merge. Pot spune ca merge EXCELENT! nu am avut niciodata o masina asa de buna dpdv tehnic, e perfecta, motorul se aude super, nici o bataie, nu nimic, nu da fum, porneste foarte usor indiferent de temperatura motorului, ac-ul baga ca un nebun imi ingheaza picioarele si mainile smile.gif), una peste alta is super multumit!!! Am uitat sa precizez ca nu am nevoie sa apas acceleratia mai multe 1cm la mers normal si imediat urca kilometrajul, ce sa zic is super multumit de cum a iesit toata treaba.

Acum si o impresie despre teava aia de fum in admisie de care tot vorbeam, mi se pare ca motorul trage mult mai bine in ture mici, inainte sa simti ca se duce aveam nevoie sa trec de 2000rpm, acum 1500rpm e suficient! Ce am sezisat dupa infundarea tevii EGR daca bagi piciorul un pic mai tare in ea fluiera turbina, pana acum nu fluiera, cam atat pana acum.

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