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post May 13 2011, 08:24 PM
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Merci georgem de sfat ptr ambreiaj.
Acum la faza cu prezoanele de strangere chiloasa, singurul risc ii ala ca s ar putea rupe?
Sau se intind si ajung pana la capatul filetului in bloc si nu mai pot strange chiloasa cum trebuie...?


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post May 13 2011, 10:56 PM
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post May 13 2011, 10:56 PM
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suruburile nu isi vor modifica lungimea initiala.
blocul motor nu il poti plana, pt ca ala nu se deformeaza ca este din otel(sau alt material oricum cu fier in compozitie) ci se planeaza doar chiuloasa pt ca este din aluminiu si este mult mai usor deformabila.


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post May 13 2011, 11:02 PM
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De obicei se deformeaza doar chiulasa dar cateodata si blocul. Stiu ca se poate verifica/corecta planeitatea si in cazul blocului motor.

Cat despre suruburi, probabil se inlocuiesc pentru a elimina riscul ruperii lor la strangere. Daca se strang repetat exista posibilitatea ca sa-si consume capacitatea de deformatie in domeniul elastic si devin casante.
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post May 14 2011, 07:47 PM
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Va multumesc de sfaturi!
Acum imi aduc aminte ca la TD am desfacut motorul si restrans de vreo 3-4 ori cam asa cu acelasi rand de prezoane, din motivul asta vroiam o explicatie care ii faza cu inlocuirea lor!


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post May 16 2011, 11:36 AM
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pana acum am gasit asa:
-garnitura chiloasa Victor Reinz- 183
-disc ambreiaj LUK 380 (pe sachs e la jumatate...)
-pompa apa Graff 181
-termostat VALER 80
-Filtre MANN de ulei motorina si aer::38,100,63
-kit semeringuri supape victor reinz 26
In total pana acum 1051 LEI terminare totala la portofel sad.gif(

Si culmea ca inca imi lipsesc cele mai importante piese, care nu dau de ele momentan...
-segmenti
-cuzineti biele
-garnitura baie de ulei si capac distributie
-semering palier spate
-si o stropitoare ulei de piston, una are tevusca aia bulita....
-semering la cutie, la cardan si selector viteze
-oring joja ulei
-reconditionat electromotor(daca tot e jos si pozitia ii mizera trebuie umblat si aici...)

In concluzie nu stiu cand o voi repara....raman dracu si fara servici, depinde de ea mult, dar acum ce sa ami zic....asta e!
Bine ca am cumparat distributia, e noua si pe original, si aia 830 lei la reducere si fara TVA...


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post May 16 2011, 12:21 PM
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Cred ca te costa mai putin sa iei alt motor care merge si sa fi mers cu grija cu acela pana aveai fonduri sa-l faci pe cel original de la A la Z.
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post May 17 2011, 04:01 PM
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am cumparat toate piese mentionate de mai sus, defapt deabia astazi le am comandat...
Cred pe vineri am toate piesele, daca nu saptamana viitoare, luni garantat am tot, si ma apuc de montat, deabia astept sa repar dracul asta de motor, is praf fara masina!!!!

Totul m a dus in 3700 lei:(((((((((((

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post May 17 2011, 09:33 PM
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mai fa si tu o intrebare pe forum...suntem 2-3 oameni care aducem piese noi...eu si coman cosmin...pt colegii de forum eu merg cu adaos minim...nu te grabi ca e investitie mare...parere mea, te rog nu mi-o lua in nume de rau


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post May 18 2011, 11:16 AM
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nu prietene, de ce sa ma supar, dar am cautat peste tot, absolut tot, chir si la vestitul provider de piese AUTONET, am pe cineva acolo de ma ajuta cu piesele, deci ami ieftin de suma aia nu am gasit...
Oricum bine de stiut, de acum o sa intreb si la voi cu piesele! Ms de info!!!

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post May 18 2011, 01:43 PM
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Am primit primele piese biggrin.gif






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post May 18 2011, 11:24 PM
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va deranjez din nou cu o intrebare,


In poza daca observati piesa nr 8 este teava care face legatura intre galeria de evacuare si duce in galeria de admisie in valva egr(valva asta este montata de admisie si are pe ea un vacum)

Eu ma gandeam sa anulez asta, (i am fauct deja din alta teava luata de pe un 2.5tds calat dopuri), in ideea sa nu imi mai dea fumul in admisie (adica gazele nearse) cel putin asta cred eu ca ii scopul ei. Vreau sa fac chestia asta in ideea ca motorul o sa traga ceva mai bine+ ca la consum ar trebui sa ies si acolo mai bine, deoare intra in admisie numai oxige, fara alte gaze nearse sau alte bazaconii....

Astept ceva pareri, tot ce vreau sa stiu este daca influenteaza negativ mersul motorului...


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post May 19 2011, 10:53 PM
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la chestia cu consumul gresesti pt k acele gaze nearse vor fi arse si va fi nevoie de mai putin carburant injectat.
de ce ai vrea sa o dai afara daca ea a fost pusa acolo?


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post May 19 2011, 11:19 PM
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pai gandestete ca o parte din fum se intoarce in admisie, adica mai putin oxigen, din motivul asta.
Eliminand teava aia din admisie=> mai mult oxigen, mai mult oxigen o ardere mai puternica, de aici putere si consum ceva mai mic, etc etc
M am gandit ca intoarcerea gazelor nearse este doar ptr o norma de poluare mai buna, sacrificand astfel ceva din putere, acum ce sa zic, poate gresesc eu...

Apropo, astazi am bagat segmentii si cuzinetii in motor, si in rest am spalat piese, ca sunt o gramada, maine schimb semeringurile la cutie si ii schimb si uleiul, etc, mai sunt destuuuuule de facut

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post May 23 2011, 11:35 PM
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deci pana la urma nu stiti cum este afectat motorul daca scot teava aia de baga fum in admisie?


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post May 24 2011, 12:09 AM
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Eu nu cred ca merita manevra... Are si ea rolul ei. Cel putin consumul nu are cum sa-ti scada.
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post May 24 2011, 02:29 PM
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Eu chiar nu pricep logica din moment ce gazele nearse contin carburant...

Practic arunci motorina daca faci bypassul acela. Da' in fine, fiecare cu ale lui smile.gif


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post May 24 2011, 02:40 PM
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Alea nu sunt neaparat gaze nearse... cred ca e mai mult fum.

Singurul lucru negativ e faptul ca pierzi boost daca elimini acel furtun/teava laugh.gif compresia pierduta in carter ar face presiune in admisie. Glumesc, desigur.

Ce ar fi urat de fapt: o sa ai o fumigena sub capota... cam neplacut.


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eu am anulat teava aia la 2.5 tds
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dar ai infundat-o? Daca o infunzi se face presiune in baia de ulei, cred. Optiunea 2 ar fi evacuarea ei sub masina; deci fumigena.


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