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> diferential autoblocant pentru E12, exista?, Vine iarna
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post Oct 25 2010, 09:32 AM
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Salut,

Nu prea am auzit pe cineva sa aibe un diferential autoblocant pe un BMW E12. Exista asa ceva? Sau pot sa folosesc un diferential de pe un alt tip de BMW?


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Probabil ca M535i-ul avea autoblocant.

Nu merge luat de pe E24 sau E28 unul?


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post Oct 25 2010, 10:22 AM
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post Oct 25 2010, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (TiL @ Oct 25 2010, 11:22 AM) *
Offtopic: Bart vrei sa iesi rÔnjind din intersectii? biggrin.gif

Nu, dar ma enerveaza iarna cand vad ca o roata sa invarte degeaba pe gheata si pot sa plec de pe loc.
Am mai sapat pe net, se pare ca diferentiale sunt folosite pe E3, E9, E12, E24. Cel de E28 merge daca pui punte spate de E28. Uite un desen cu diferential de E12:




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Deci tot am nimerit 2 din 3.

Sunt curios insa daca gasesti in tara asa ceva. E12 M nu cred ca sunt si nici de pe E24 nu stiu cine l-ar da. Poate e-bay? unsure.gif


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post Oct 25 2010, 10:59 AM
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post Oct 25 2010, 12:27 PM
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O sa gasesti punte spate cu discuri si autoblocant de e28, fara discutii, la pret acceptabil! Eu o gasesc cea mai comoda si realista solutie.
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post Oct 25 2010, 12:40 PM
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Manole de unde mai iei o punte cu discurii si autoblocant de e28, cand aceste masinii sunt pe cale de disparitie.

Bart cauta o punte de e28 si diferentialul de e30 cu carcasa mare si gata.
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post Oct 25 2010, 12:47 PM
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Poate o fi mai usor de gasit, dar cat face punte cu discuri, blocant, si poate si amortizoare de E28... poate gasesc blocant de e12 la bani asta.


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post Oct 25 2010, 12:51 PM
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Daca sti tu un m535i prin tara, la dezmembrat bafta.
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am eu un prieten care are pe e12 autoblocant smile.gif


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post Oct 25 2010, 03:24 PM
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am eu un prieten care are pe e12 autoblocant smile.gif

Cine? tongue.gif


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post Oct 25 2010, 04:59 PM
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Sigur este vorba de Mihai cu XDD-ul.

Din pacate este si singurul care are blocant pe e12.
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post Oct 25 2010, 06:20 PM
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ca tot ai deschis subiect bart,si iarna bate la usa...
si eu as cauta un blocant de e28,ca doar am punte de e28

eu acum am dif open de serie de e28 520i
zicea cineva ca ar tr sa fie 4.10 daca e de serie

oare gasesc blocant la fel 4.10?ca nu as vrea sa schimb raportul


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@amd diferentialele stock de E28 520i au fost 3.91 sau 4.10 .....4.10 mai rar....si da...gasesti autoblocant de amandoua rapoartele dar nu de E28....trebuie de E30 carcasa mare

@bart la muzeu si pe ebay mai gasesti asa ceva tongue.gif...si daca poti sa iti cumperi un diff autoblocant de pe ebay ....do it

faza cu pus punte de e28 cu autoblocant de urs este o varianta buna dar dureaza si costa





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post Nov 7 2010, 11:36 AM
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Sa pui punte de e28 nu este asa simplu daca montezi tot ansamblul. Puntea pica la fix, dar sunt cateva probleme:

-Basculele au prinderea de amortizor la alt unghi fata de basculele de e12 si vei avea niste bucse extrem de torsionate care se vor rupe la prima groapa. Remedierea este sa faci basculele reglabile pe punte.

-Singurul grup care iti intra perfect este 3,64 cu capac de pe orice grup de e28 cu raport scurt, cum ar fii un 3.91 de pe un 520.
Este singurul capac care are prindere centrala si se aliniaza cu prindere de e12 de pe lonjeronul spate. De asemenea, grupul cu 3.64 este singurul cu raport mai lung pe care se potriveste capacul respectiv. Pe e12 528i ai probabil un 3,45 deci nu ar fii o diferenta extrem de mare.

-Nu poti pastra basculele de e12 deoarece nu se potrivesc capetele de planetare care vin cu grupul.

Eu am pe e12 grup de e28 cu punte dar a trebuit sa tai jumate de portbagaj ca sa-l montez. Din cauza coroanei mari si carcasa este mare, lucru care face necesara modificarea lonjeroanelor spate pentru a-i face loc. Prinderea a trebuit facuta de la zero.

Dar si eu stiu pe cineva care are un grup de e12 blocant in curte si-l vinde cu 400 euro laugh.gif
Eu as alege varianta cu punte de e28 ca sa pot pune si frane ventilate.

Bart, ca indiciu, acolo unde o sa-ti demontezi motorul gasesti si grup blocant...asta daca mai este valabila informatia biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (db85amd @ Oct 25 2010, 07:20 PM) *
ca tot ai deschis subiect bart,si iarna bate la usa...
si eu as cauta un blocant de e28,ca doar am punte de e28

eu acum am dif open de serie de e28 520i
zicea cineva ca ar tr sa fie 4.10 daca e de serie

oare gasesc blocant la fel 4.10?ca nu as vrea sa schimb raportul



4,27 sau 3.91 au fost rapoartele. pentru primul nu gasesti dar pentru 3.91 poi sa pui in coroana ta orice grup de la urmatoarele:


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Prefer sa caut blocant de E12 fata de schimbat jumatate de masina smile.gif Munca, piese, si blocant de E28 nu poate fi mai putin ca un diferential blocant de E12 / E3 / E9.
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Cam greu sa gasesti pt e12 blocant...cand cautam pentru a mea am gasit cateva la 600 euro pe ebay, fara transport, in Germania si sincer mi-e frica sa iau un grup vechi de 100 de ani fara sa-l probez...rulmenti mai schimb dar discuri de frictiune nu prea pe la noi laugh.gif

Asa ca munca+banii sa adaptezi ceva de e28 nu poate fii comparat cu ceva fictiv care in cazul in care gasesti te usuca de bani si nu stii sigur daca merge

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