Bass puternic - subwoofer tub sau cutie??? |
Bass puternic - subwoofer tub sau cutie??? |
Feb 24 2006, 04:58 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP |
Am o mare dilema...vreau sa investesc intr-o statie si un subwoofer....problema e ca am auzit mai multe modele de sub-uri si nu ma multumit niciunul cum se aude....am si eu o intrebare: bass-ul puternic (de figuri ) il obtin cu subwooferul-cutie sau tub???
-------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone |
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Feb 24 2006, 05:18 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP |
da...vreau sa desfintez boxele de pe spate, defapt sa las doar 2 si sa montez alte 2 pe fata, cu tweeter separat, eventual amplificate...si sa mai am un subwoofer in portbagaj, problema e de care??? am ascultat acum 10 min un subwoofer jbl gto1200B pe o statie extreme de 2x50w rms si nu simte-am si eu ca e subwoofer in masina....defapt nu simte-am basul care sa-mi zgaltaie ficatii....si da vreau sa se auda si in masina si afara...ca doar am zis ca vreau de figuri... :unibrow:
-------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone |
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Feb 24 2006, 05:21 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,020 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 27 Car: e30 325ix |
nu se aude bine JBL-ul ma??? -------------------- www.mindbomb.ro -sunt Masochist....traiesc in Romania!
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Feb 24 2006, 05:23 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP |
ma poate statia nu se potrivea ca avea puterea mica, adica 100w in punte si subwoofer-ul are 250w rms si 1000w max....acum nu stiu ce sa zic.. :dis:
-------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone |
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Feb 24 2006, 05:44 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP |
:cool:
-------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone |
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Feb 24 2006, 07:09 PM
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36% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 450 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Ottawa Member No.: 101 Car: e30 318is Engine: m42 +12psi of boost |
Fara statie puternica si sub la fel nu faci nimic ,100w un mic fas -------------------- UPGRADES SO FAR:12psi of boost,Fidanza 13lbs flywheel, M3 BULLY stage 3 clutch(240mm), getrag260 transmission,Coils over plugs (COP),Stock engine
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Feb 24 2006, 08:30 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,502 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 4 Car: E36 318i/1995 Engine: M43 1.8 115CP |
QUOTE (Ionut) ma poate statia nu se potrivea ca avea puterea mica, adica 100w in punte si subwoofer-ul are 250w rms si 1000w max....acum nu stiu ce sa zic.. :dis:
Eu am JBL CS1200T (30cm diametru la 125W cu 500w peak) dar dau in el cu un GTO75.4 care imi scoate 284w la 4ohm pe puntea bridge. Alte 2 canale de 2x142W le folosesc pentru cele 6 difuzoare din fatza (4 sunt tweeterele originale BMW). si in spate am scos difuzoarele pentru ca nu-mi serveau la nimic, asa se aude si basul cum trebuie. Dar tot nu simt bass-ul in ficati, ci doar tremura hainele pe tine. Poate daca stai in spate sa-l simti in ficati deci JBL se aude bine poate vrei sa-ti vand tubul. Oricum, conteaza foarte foarte mult amplificatorul si conexiunile la el. Tubul mai putin. Daca vii la Ilioara iti "arat" cum se aude. Uite aici: http://www.bimmer.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15791#15791 Later edit: Incintele inchise (sealed enclosure) sunt cele care au cea mai mare acuratete in reproducerea sunetelor joase si sunt potrivite pentru toate tipurile de muzica. Dar pentru acestea iti trebuie amplificator foarte puternic. Incintele ventilate (bass reflex, tunurile de bass) au cea mai buna eficienta in zona 40Hz-50Hz si nu reproduc prea bine sunetele sub 40Hz. Daca vrei amplificator mai slab, tunul de bass e cel mai potrivit, pentru ca incintele ventilate produc mai mult bass decat cele inchise folosind o putere mai mica. La tuburi, bass-ul este "labartat", se potriveste cu hip-hop sau house. Incintele bandpass sunt cele mai potrivite pentru a obtine un SPL (sound pressure level) maxim. Dar acuratetea sunetelor reproduse este mult mai slaba. Daca vrei doar curenti de aer, atunci ia-ti o incinta bandpass. (pentru necunoscatori, bandpass e incinta unde nu vezi difuzorul - adik difuzorul nu are membrana catre exteriorul cutiei.) -------------------- |
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Feb 24 2006, 10:17 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 24-November 05 From: IASHIngton- bacau Member No.: 103 Car: e30 Engine: m20 2.0 129CP |
deci... daca vrei ceva ceva. poti face o cutie in spate in care s apui 2 difuzoare cu magnet dublu. si bassul reflez(adica gaurile alea) sa iasa prin bancheta. nu de alta dar pasagerii sunt doritori de aerisirea palmanilor si de incurcarea matzelor prin burta.
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Feb 24 2006, 10:25 PM
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Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
Tot CS1200T am si eu impins de GTO4000 (4x50 RMS) si sunt foarte multumit. Acuma depinde ce vrei sa faca un woofer la banii pe care-i oferi. Ceva de Doamne-Dumnezeule moaaaaaaaama cum se haude si sa-ti cada tabla de pe masina de 3 ori n-o sa gasesti niciodata la 4mil.
Pe mine ma bate gandul la un upgrade la Infinity Kappa 120.3 (300W RMS,30cm) care e vreo 5.200k cu tot cu tub si care n-are nici o legatura cu CS1200T. -------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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Feb 24 2006, 10:31 PM
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Chisinau Member No.: 197 |
Vrau sa ma laud si eu un pic. Sistemul are un an. sunt multumit. akum 3 luni am schimbat CD-ul a fost Clarion DXZ 745MP acu e un Alpine 9855 + Ipod Video 30Gb Sub-ul e un Kicker Solobaric 7 (nominal 700W - max 1200W) Ampl 1*Kicker 450.2 2*Kicker 650.1 2*Stinger Capacitator * 1.5Fa in front stau Hertz 165 -------------------- E32 '89 - 3.5l Black aka Crow
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Feb 24 2006, 11:03 PM
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Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
Foarte frumos setupul. Sa-l folosesti sanatos. :nod:
-------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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Feb 24 2006, 11:07 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 24-November 05 From: IASHIngton- bacau Member No.: 103 Car: e30 Engine: m20 2.0 129CP |
:eek: :eek: :eek: prea tare asha ceva. :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Feb 24 2006, 11:46 PM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 882 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 16 |
offtopic
esti multumit de alpine 9855?? ma bate gandu de ceva timp... -------------------- A Mercedes fan, Audi owner on BMW forum
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Feb 24 2006, 11:49 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
alt offtopic: Crow, care e site-ul clubului vostru ca il cautam acum ceva vreme.. |
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Feb 25 2006, 12:17 AM
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Chisinau Member No.: 197 |
QUOTE (316i) Foarte frumos setupul. Sa-l folosesti sanatos. :nod: merci
SUPERBEC - da, e mare diferenta dintre clarion. face. ca varianta uite la 9853, 9851. florin83 - sorry, site nu avem, iata asa, facem parte din BMW Club Europa... dar cu site-ul stam prost... -------------------- E32 '89 - 3.5l Black aka Crow
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Feb 25 2006, 02:39 AM
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Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
Da, s-ar putea sa fie ce are nevoie.
-------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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Feb 25 2006, 07:27 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 1,723 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 29 Car: BMW E46 318I 2002 Engine: N42 2.0 143CP |
am mai fost azi si am ascultat cateva sub-uri pe diferite statii....cred ca sunt paranoia, ca nu mi-a placut niciunul, dar pana la urma cred ca ma voi opri la un sub JBL GTO1200T sau B si o statie pe 4 canale de 4x75wRMS sau 4x100wRMS, tot JBL...sa vad ce gasesc...
-------------------- ex...e36 316i ex...e30 327i ex...e46 318i ex...e60 520i today just off-road - Navarone |
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Feb 25 2006, 07:35 PM
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Road Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,336 Joined: 17-October 05 From: La dreacu' Member No.: 9 Car: BMW E30 08/90 Engine: 08/94 M42 318iST |
4x75 RMS sau 4x100 RMS...uoau, cineva e in bani. :unibrow: -------------------- 16 valves, 24 hours a day, 1bar boost. A vulgar display of power. Making boost since 30-06-2008. |
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Feb 25 2006, 10:00 PM
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27% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 329 Joined: 16-November 05 Member No.: 99 Car: e46 316i Engine: M43B19 1895 cmc 105 CP |
In martie ma duc la nemti si daca am noroc cred ca ma intorc cu statie, bass (nu stiu inca ce) sarme si condensator... anul trecut un coleg de-al meu a venit cu un set de genul asta (amplif si bass MAGNAT) luat cu vreo 200 Euro... sper sa fie si acum promotii si ma scot...
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Feb 26 2006, 01:19 PM
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45% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 498 Joined: 23-October 05 From: Bucharest Member No.: 51 Car: E30 Engine: S50 turbo 400+WHP |
Vreau sa upgradez systemul de sunet.. E stock, are 10 boxe si amplif, dar distorsioneaza repede si nici nu se aude exceptional.
Intrebari: - pot folosi amplif-ul stock pt a "da" in cele 6 boxe de pe fata si sa iau unul pt sub? - sa renunt la boxele spate - cum a facut Darren? - daca ar fi sa las totusi boxele pe spate, ce amplif ar trebui sa iau? - sub-ul trapezoidal (care sa nu ocupe prea mult loc in portbagaj) e mai "bun" decat un tub? - is cam incepator la partea de sunet.. ce inseamna practic "canal" si ce acopera 1 canal? Cate canale ar trebui sa am pt 10 boxe si sub? Cum se leaga? Poate isi face cineva pomana si explica un pic mai pe larg si mai pt neinitiati.. - pot folosi CD playeru' original? Nu (cred ca) are control pt sub, practic ar trebui sa fac un "setup" din amplif, nuh? -------------------- E30 S50 turbo :D
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