Sharky, E28 525i |
Sharky, E28 525i |
Oct 16 2012, 10:49 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,477 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Volanul asta are diametru exterior exact cat are toyota... 38 cm.
Inca n-am masurat Alpina. Cat despre suspensie, da, pe viraje E28 iti cam da impresia ca vrea sa se rastoarne, din cauza motorului greoi. Dar am ramas surprins odata cand am mers in urma lui si la o curba foarte stransa nu s-a inclinat deloc. Senzatia de rasturnare e mai degraba data de balonul mare al rotilor pe 15". Dar, la drumul lung spre casa pe care nu-l fac cu doar 100km/h, iau virajele cu aceleasi viteze, si cu toyota si cu E28. Stiu curbele pe de rost, curbe marcate deosebit de periculoase, dar fiecare e diferita, le-am botezat: curba de 80km/h, curba de 100, curba de 160, curba de 140 etc. Stiu ca pare incredibil, dar practic asa e, troaca barca cu 15" sta pe viraje ca rahatul cu 215/50 R17. Diferentele apar doar la virrajele foarte stranse, dar acolo nu testez toyota, pentru ca subvirarea m-ar duce cu botu-n gard. Am incercat sa "rastorn" (imping) cu mana, si toyota si BMW. BMW pare ca se lasa nitel mai usor, dar de fapt se lasa mai mult in balon, nu pe suspensie. Toyota nu are pe ce balon sa danseze, dar danseaza binisor pe suspensie, mai ales la miscari repetate, semn ca amortizoarele-s de kkt. Cu alte cuvinte, la toyota au pus arcuri prea tari si atat; amortizoarele mi se par varza. Iar pentru faptul ca la denivelari ma da cu capul de geamurile laterale, trag concluzia ca si bara stabilizatoare nu e dimensionata corespunzator tariei arcurilor. Deci suspensia toyota=cel mai neghiob tuning: arcuri tari si atat. O sa tai si eu doua spire la E28 si o sa am cam acelasi comportament de kkt. Am mers cu 535 care-i la cosmin acum, cu suspensia M. Mi s-a parut extraordinar de confortabil si el. Xox, ursul are comportament pe care l-am asemanat cu cel de Dacie, pentru ca e masina mica. Pentru mine trist e ca si toyota asta cu pretentii de limuzina are prin gropi comportament chiar mai prost decat dacia. Zici ca vrea sa se infiga in ele si sa ramana acolo. Zici ca are ciuda pe tine zi vrea sa te zgaltaie mai rau decat permite groapa aia. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Oct 16 2012, 04:47 PM
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Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP |
eu vorbeam strict de e28-ul lui til....cel mai jelly suspension e28 cu care am mers vreodata
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Oct 17 2012, 03:01 AM
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Beer Powered Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 |
Daca-i aceeasi suspensie care o avea si acu' 6 ani, da, e jeleu da' e comfortabila in draci. Cat despre Dacii... Nu mai tin minte ce drumuri aveti voi prin capitala, dar in Iasi o Dacie e mai relax decat ursu' meu. Nu-i problema ca ma zgaltaie, ca nu face balans, nu stiu cum sa explic, se muleaza dupa strada parca si vrea sa-mi scoata piatra de la rinichi. Cine naiba o mai intelege. Volanu' daca-i la fel cu ala de toyota, inseamna ca-i prea mare totusi pentru masina mea. Oi fi eu slabut, dar tot am nevoie de spatiu. Am sa-mi caut ceva mai mic cu 2-3 cm. La grosime-i bun, diametrul ma scoate din sarite. Ori poate ma tin scaunele prea sus. Dzeu stie. Si sa stii ca totusi nu-i chiar ca o Dacie, decat la dimensiune. Cu Dacia mi-e frica pe multe curbe, la 60km/h unde intru fara probleme cu e30u' la viteza asta. Si nu-i vorba de curbe ca la voi, acolo pe campie stii ca suntem pe 7 coline aici Ai coborat dintr-un colt, te urci p'altul. -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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Oct 17 2012, 08:01 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,477 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Dacia e mai relax pentru ca are canapele cu arcuri lungi.
Voloanul Alpina, surpriza, are diametru exterior tot 38 cm Pare mai mic pentru ca e mai gros. E posibil ca scaunele de urs sa te tina mai sus, nu mai retin ce pozitie aveam in ursulica. Cert e ca in E28 as fi vrut sa fiu putin mai jos, iar in toyota sunt de-a dreptul cocotat, cu genunchii impinsi in volan. Ma refeream la confort, nu poti sa compari stabilitatea daciei cu aia a ursului. Acum 6 ani... nu mai retin daca aveam amortizoarele noi. Probabil eram pe niste SACHS SH posibil de urs. Am avut 3 faze pe E28 asta: - amortizoare muci, confort naspa (culmea), stabilitate la fel. - amortioare SACHS bunicele dar moi (posibil de urs? ca sunt mai scurte) mega confort dar comportament de barca eleganta. - amortizoare noi Bilstein de Sibiu, confortabile, stabile si al dracu de rezistente (vezi episodul in care am zburat in camp, dat intr-un pietroi, rupt caroseria, rupt janta, rupt cauciucul, amortizorul lucreaza ca nou si acum) Asta pe fata, pe spate am trecut rapid de la unele muci inegale la Monroe noi. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Oct 17 2012, 08:04 AM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,459 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 |
Bilsteinurile sunt destul de dure din ce stiu,dar probabil ca ai luat varianta stock.Oricum stiu ca tu nu te omori dupa suspensie modificata.
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cazan 140i |
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Oct 17 2012, 07:20 PM
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Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP |
am 2 amortizoare monroe noi noute si nefolosite pt tine |
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Oct 17 2012, 07:45 PM
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91% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 919 Joined: 11-April 08 From: aleea circului Member No.: 1,580 Car: E28 Engine: 3.5/218hp |
am 2 amortizoare monroe noi noute si nefolosite pt tine de ce ma?tu nu mai ai masina? -------------------- E28 FOREVER
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Oct 17 2012, 08:16 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,477 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
are masina , dar lui nu-i plac jeleurile
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E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Oct 18 2012, 03:04 PM
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Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP |
am masina....dar nu am ce face cu ele......eu am bilstein b4
si da....nu imi plac jeleurile....pe un bmw nu |
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Oct 18 2012, 04:14 PM
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91% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 919 Joined: 11-April 08 From: aleea circului Member No.: 1,580 Car: E28 Engine: 3.5/218hp |
ce e alea b4?vreau si eu -------------------- E28 FOREVER
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Oct 18 2012, 07:19 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,477 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
tu n-ai B6? sau le incurc io?
Parca B4 erau alea stock? Teoretic asta am pe fata. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Oct 18 2012, 07:56 PM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,952 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
QUOTE The original BILSTEIN B2 Oil and BILSTEIN B4 Gas units were developed as replacement parts for standard shock absorbers. They have the same damping force as the original parts. If the driver finds them firmer (or harder), that is because with time this driver has got used to a steadily poorer and more spongy driving performance with the faulty units. That is why some drivers find the change from a spongy driving feel to the new, original performance uncomfortable, even though it is not the fault of the shock absorber, it is just that the original driving performance has been reinstated. Precise damping transmits road unevenness more noticeably, but substantially increases the road holding of the wheels. QUOTE The BILSTEIN B6 Sport and BILSTEIN B8 Sprint have a higher damping force than the BILSTEIN B2 Oil and BILSTEIN B4 Gas shock absorbers. Elaborate driving trials are used to determine the damping force for each individual vehicle to ensure optimum driving performance on the road.
-------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
To keep up with me You've got to walk like a panther tonight |
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Oct 19 2012, 04:51 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,477 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
QED.
Eu doar m-am uitat la poze cu B4 si B6, dupa grosimea tijelor e clar care nu-i stock. Deci haifisch, ai amortizoare identice cu ale mele? Jelly-driving? -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Oct 19 2012, 06:33 PM
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Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP |
nu confunda.....eu am PE MASINA bilstein b4 galbene......crede-ma ca nu sunt confortabile + arcuri h&r albastre de E28....care si alea o fac mai rigida |
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Oct 29 2012, 06:11 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,477 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Si eu tot pe masina le am, doar ca sunt negre, facute la Sibiu si habar n-am daca scrie ceva pe ele
WE asta am fost cu E28 acasa, incarcat binisor cu bagaje, plus doi pasageri. Masina se lasa mai mult pe arcuri cand e incarcata, in comparatie cu toyota, deci arcuri mai moi. DAR, nu danseaza ca toyota dupa denivelari. Adica amortizoarele fac o treaba foarte buna. Nu excelenta, dar clar mai buna decat la toyota, care dupa ce aterizeaza de pe o denivelare, se mai arunca o data in sus (pentru ca-i place?) asa degeaba, dupa care tinde sa se linisteasca. Se duce dreacu si confort si stabilitate. O sa pun o poza care sa va scandalizeze putin, dar in cateva saptamani. Sa ma numiti ccriminal, ca-mi bat joc de masinuta etc. Dupa batjocura m-a rasplatit cu un 210. Kilometri la ora, pe bord, deci ceva mai putini reali. Mai putea nitel, ca era o mica vale. Oricum, cea mai mare viteza pe care am atins-o cu E28 Mai atinsesem o data 205 pe autostrada, pe drept. Alte constatari tehnice: Nu mai pot sa-i dau blana pe I si II ca e dusa flansa de la cutie/cardan. Trebuiesc schimbati rulmentii fata, cel putin cel de pe dreapta. Am facut deja mii de km cu joc la el. La 9000km de la schimbul de ulei s-a aprins becul de minim la ulei. Chiar a ajuns la minimul de pe joja. Daca retin bine, pusesem nitel peste maxim la ultimul schimb. Consuma aproape 10l/suta de km, mers destul de tare, croaziera 120-160 (vreo 280km facuti in trei ore). Pe spritmonitor (link-ul din semnatura) imi iese mult mai mic, sigur am uitat sa notez niste alimentari. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Oct 29 2012, 06:33 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Insiders Posts: 4,459 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 |
consumul e chiar decent
-------------------- cotetz 1,8is
cazan 140i |
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Oct 29 2012, 08:34 PM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,952 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
Dupa batjocura m-a rasplatit cu un 210. wow. Nenea, ne dam la o liniuta? -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
To keep up with me You've got to walk like a panther tonight |
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Oct 29 2012, 09:07 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,477 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
am o scuza, nu pot sa dau tot cuplul monstruos in cardan -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
E28 528i, E39 525i touring, E39 520i touring, E53 X5 4.4i, E70 X5 3.0si, E46 318i ex E39 520i exclusive, E39 525tds, E46 318d touring, E28 525i, E34 525i, E28 524td, E30 318i, E28 525i |
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Oct 29 2012, 10:21 PM
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Was ist Zeit? Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-October 05 Member No.: 75 Car: E28 Engine: M20 2.0i 129CP |
la faza cu uleiul poti sa spui ca ti-ai batut joc de motor din 2 motive.....pe care sper ca iti dai si tu seama
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Oct 30 2012, 02:08 PM
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zijdelings geïnteresseerd Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,952 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp |
am o scuza, nu pot sa dau tot cuplul monstruos in cardan Nici eu, nu face fata pompa de benzina -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
To keep up with me You've got to walk like a panther tonight |
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