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David
post Dec 13 2010, 12:43 AM
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Ce pareri aveti referitoare la putere, comportament, cutie de viteze automata vs cutie manuala si consum la un E34 535i?


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post Dec 13 2010, 08:25 AM
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M30 ? in momentul de fata cred ca se merita 2,5 24 valve prin prisma taxelor,un mare minus la 3,5 sunt taxele .In rest ce sa fie de zis ai 211 cai cuplu decent,consumul va fi undeva peste 15% urban si probabil ca vreo 10 afara.Din punctul meu de vedere doar manuala se merita, automatele la masinile cu vechimea lui E34 pot pica oricand.

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post Dec 13 2010, 09:43 AM
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El sigur vrea sa o cumpere si s-o foloseasca in alta tara.


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post Dec 13 2010, 10:13 AM
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Mi se pare suprinzator sa aud intrebari de gen de la un fost proprietar de E32 automat smile.gif
3.5 M30 vs 3.0 M30 este un motor cu cuplu, nu de turatie.
Motor mai mare, masina un pic mai usoara si cu aerodinamica mai buna, cred ca consum cam tot ca E32 3.0 iese.


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post Dec 13 2010, 10:15 AM
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La asta ma gandeam si eu. Ca o foloseste in alta parte unde poate ca nu-s asa prohibitive taxele.

Eu am avut un E32 cu M30B35, cutie automata. Nu l-am tinut mult, nici nu l-am trecut pe numele meu (apropo este iar la vanzare, de data asta pe 350e - fara itp/asig) si chiar mi-a placut motorul cum trage. Singura problema de nerezolvat a fost debitmetrul, eu n-am vrut sa cumpar unul nou, iar cel sh care l-am pus pe masina, la fel ca cel dinainte, era desigilat iar masina chiar daca tragea bine, nu era constanta senzatia. A, si ii mai lipsea o fisa cu un senzor cred, n-am stat sa studiez problema, asa mi s-a zis doar.

Automata mi s-a parut criminala, iar la kickdown am reusit s-o pun de-a latul strazii. Schimba foarte frumos in orice treapta si chiar nu cred ca a fost cea mai menajata cutie ever. Ca la orice SH (si chiar si la unele noi) tine de noroc treaba asta. M30 cu manuala n-am condus, n-am de unde sa-mi dau seama care-i mai practica si care nu. Eu poate am fost si "biased" de faptul ca n-am mai condus automate inainte.

In rest instalatia electrica era un cosmar, s-a intamplat probabil cineva sa-si bage nasul pe acolo si in lipsa de cunostinte despre calculatoarele de comfort s-o fi legat cum a vrut.

Iar consumul era 16-17 la mers economic.

Stiu ca nu-i despre E34 dar e despre motor. M-am dat si cu un E34 cu M20B25 manual si mi s-a parut foarte agresiva.


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post Dec 13 2010, 10:28 AM
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personal nu as luam E34 cu M30 as merge ori pe M50 sau daca se va folosi intr-o tara cu taxe decente ceva cu V8 (M60) 530i sau 540i sunt peste 535i din punctul meu de vedere smile.gif


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post Dec 13 2010, 10:52 AM
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Sunt de acord cu alex. M30 parca e prea demodat pentru caroserie de E34.


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post Dec 13 2010, 11:40 AM
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N-aş cumpăra aşa ceva.

Dacă tot plăteşti taxe mari, măcar să tragă.

211 cai din care cine ştie câţi au mai rămas, în combinaţie cu o cutie automată clasică nu sunt cine ştie ce.
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post Dec 13 2010, 12:08 PM
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Mi se pare motoare cu vanos o dezvoltare importanta. Cuplu mai mult la turatii mici si consum la exploitare moderata mai scazut fata de tot ce a fost inainte. Avand in vedere ca au fost si pe E34, as cumpara un e34 cu motor cu vanos.


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post Dec 13 2010, 12:32 PM
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apropo de vanos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfj96bV4hIU

cam asa se pare ca urca din a 4-a


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post Dec 13 2010, 01:32 PM
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ce trepte scurte are! doar 80km/h intr-a doua?


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post Dec 13 2010, 01:43 PM
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nu,a 2-a merge pe la 90 tongue.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIMBI0ZG594...feature=related

in principiu cu limitarea scoasa prinzi aproape 100

http://www.youtube.com/user/devisddf#p/u/5/tWXK_ZYctn4

si m-a mai socat

http://www.youtube.com/user/devisddf#p/u/4/xGQSxPOT8OI

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post Dec 13 2010, 02:18 PM
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100 la 7000 rpm?

Al meu urca la 100 la 6000 rpm.
A IV-a duce pana la 200, ti-ul vad ca ar urca pana la 170-180


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post Dec 13 2010, 02:23 PM
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difera cutia si diferentialul clar,oricum e riscanta faza cu 7000 rpm la M54 smile.gif


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post Dec 13 2010, 03:28 PM
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desi sunt fan M30....de acord cu ce spun toti....un M50B25 e cea mai buna solutie pentru un E34

P.S. imi place f mult si M50 tongue.gif
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post Dec 13 2010, 11:14 PM
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As merge si pe M50, sau mai degraba M60, dar nu stiu cat de fiabile sunt comparativ cu M30-ul care a demonstrat cam ceea ce a fost de demonstrat...

M30-ul are traditie in spate, pe cand M60-ul?... huh.gif


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post Dec 13 2010, 11:26 PM
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Un M60 non-Nikasil e fiabil.

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post Dec 14 2010, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (David @ Dec 13 2010, 11:14 PM) *
As merge si pe M50, sau mai degraba M60, dar nu stiu cat de fiabile sunt comparativ cu M30-ul care a demonstrat cam ceea ce a fost de demonstrat...

M30-ul are traditie in spate, pe cand M60-ul?... huh.gif


ca si traditie sau mentinere in productie daca vrei M30 nu are rival smile.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M30

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M50

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M60

am pus si linkurile cu "povestea"motoarelor biggrin.gif


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post Dec 14 2010, 11:41 AM
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Toate au istoria in spate. cand cumpari o masina, verifici compresia. Daca e bun, motor e bun si ramana bun. Cele proaste au fost eliminati deja in timp.


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post Dec 14 2010, 03:48 PM
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lasa istoria....

daca pui ochii pe un E34 M30, M50 ori M60 te duci il testezi vezi cum arata cum merge si daac te incanta il iei orice motor ar fi

dar ideal ar fi sa incerci si un M50...nu o sa regreti
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