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post Dec 28 2005, 09:46 AM
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TUESDAY, Dec. 20 (HealthDay News) -- Fumes belched from diesel-engines may be especially tough on the human cardiovascular system, new research reveals.
In a carefully controlled study, the arteries of healthy volunteers exposed to diesel exhaust lost part of their ability to expand, while their blood became more likely to clot.
Response to the vasodilators was reduced significantly after the diesel exposure, and levels of an enzyme that helps keep clots from forming were reduced, the researchers reported.

A number of real-world studies have linked diesel fume exposure to heart attacks and other cardiovascular problems.

It's not clear whether the findings apply to gasoline-powered engines, because their emissions are very different from those of diesel-powered engines. In particular, diesel exhaust generates 100 times more pollutant particles.


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post Dec 28 2005, 12:44 PM
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hehe.. de asta nu-mi i-au eu diesel biggrin.gif


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post Dec 28 2005, 12:49 PM
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Eu cred ca ar trebui facuta o diferenta intre motoarele diesel clasice si cele moderne. Azi a trecut pe langa mine(de parca stateam) un 320D(sau 330D) n-am apucat prea bine sa vad si nu scotea fum desi era motorul in sarcina. Asa ca mie nu prea imi vine a crede :dis:

PS: sau cumva sunt mai bune jafurile pe benzina care mananca mai mult ulei decat benzina?! :retard:


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post Dec 28 2005, 01:08 PM
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Cu siguranta trebuie facuta diferenta intre poluarea provocata de motoarele conceptie veche si cele moderne, fie ele Diesel sau pe benzina.

Cred totusi ca studiul se refera la motoarele Diesel si benzina care sunt in productie in prezent, si in stare normala de functionare - nu vad nici un motiv sa fi comparat motoare Diesel din anii '70 cu cele de ultima generatie pe benzina.
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post Dec 28 2005, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (mike.omega)
Eu cred ca ar trebui facuta o diferenta intre motoarele diesel clasice si cele moderne. Azi a trecut pe langa mine(de parca stateam) un 320D(sau 330D) n-am apucat prea bine sa vad si nu scotea fum desi era motorul in sarcina. Asa ca mie nu prea imi vine a crede :dis:  

PS: sau cumva sunt mai bune jafurile pe benzina care mananca mai mult ulei decat benzina?! :retard:


orice diesel scoate fum..
am vazut un 330cd care scotea fum ca locomotiva.. cred ca-i daduse la rosu..
am un prieten cu 730D si ala scoate fum, f putin ce-i drept, da scoate..
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post Dec 28 2005, 02:38 PM
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eu am vazut 2 bmw-uri 320d 0km unu dadea fum cind il porneai , altul nici gram, are cineva o explicatie?


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post Dec 28 2005, 02:51 PM
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Unul avea motorul rece, iar celalalt (relativ) cald?
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post Dec 28 2005, 03:08 PM
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Unul avea motorul rece, iar celalalt (relativ) cald?


asta e cea mai plauzibila. si mie imi scoate fum la rece.
apropo de studiu. nu face comparatie cu expunerea la gaze generate de motoare pe benzina. oricum toate motoarele care folosesc carburant fosil sunt poluante.


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post Dec 28 2005, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (Azeea)
apropo de studiu. nu face comparatie cu expunerea la gaze generate de motoare pe benzina.
Ceva informatii comparative sunt totusi prezentate:

"It's not clear whether the findings apply to gasoline-powered engines, because their emissions are very different from those of diesel-powered engines. In particular, diesel exhaust generates 100 times more pollutant particles."
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post Dec 30 2005, 02:27 AM
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mie nu mi place cum miroase diesel .ma inneaca nu pot sa respir. si l amine ca nu e reglata ca lumea si merge ca un tractor imi da lacrimi la relanti din cauza noxelor:((


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post Dec 31 2005, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE (Azeea)
apropo de studiu. nu face comparatie cu expunerea la gaze generate de motoare pe benzina.
Ceva informatii comparative sunt totusi prezentate:

"It's not clear whether the findings apply to gasoline-powered engines, because their emissions are very different from those of diesel-powered engines. In particular, diesel exhaust generates 100 times more pollutant particles."


scuze n-am fost foarte atent smile.gif


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post Dec 31 2005, 01:39 PM
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Poate ca par insensibila,iar ecologistii ma vor detesta,dar 30 si...de ani am inhalat noxele de la dieselurile altora.De vreo 4 ani insa,cand inspir noxele de la BMW-ul meu,mi se pare Chanel! biggrin.gif
Lasand gluma la o parte,chiar miroase rau,dar nu ma simt asa vinovata de poluare cum ar trebui sa se simta utilizatorii de tractoare,tir-uri si alte GAZ-uri...


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