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post Dec 8 2008, 09:59 AM
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zgomotul de la pompa se aude doar cand stau cu masina pe loc, la ralanti, nu e corelat cu problemele la motor, nu imi explic insa de ce acum merge prost, si peste 200m incepe sa traga ca nebuna. si acum de dimineata, am mers din militari pana la pipera la E.P (evidenta populatiei), si a mers prost tot timpul. cand am plecat de pe loc de acolo( nu oprisem motorul) a plecat bine, si nu a mai facut figuri pe tot parcursul Barbu Vacarescu, a inceput iar sa faca figuri cand am facut stanga la un semafor.
what the fuck is it wrong with it?!?!



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post Dec 8 2008, 11:36 AM
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Daca ai bujiile ude, miros de benzina in spate, inseamna ca nu pompa e de vina.
Cel mai probabil iti merge inecat, motiv pentru care in forja, la viteze mari iti place cum merge, dar la mers linistit trage sa moara.

Exact asa facea 732-ul sportivului cand avea regulatorul de presiune blocat (mergea inecat), remember?


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post Dec 8 2008, 11:44 AM
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remember, sigur ca da, de-asta il si iau in calcul.
am gasit schema cu ce si cum e pus acolo, la adresa asta: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=13&fg=15
ma gandesc sa nu fie vacuum-ul ala de vina...iar am ce face azi dupa servici, caut vacuumul sa vad in ce stare e furtunul
P.S - ieri a dat si cateva rateuri in admisie(vreo 2-3) la care au fost si baietii martori, dadea cu fum negru in ture sus, si mirosea a benzina in urma.


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post Dec 8 2008, 11:54 AM
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Scoate furtunul de retur de dupa rampa de injectie si pune-l intr-o sticla.
Da-i cheie si vezi daca vine multa benzina in timp ce merge.

Daca vine multa benzina pe retur SI motorul merge mai frumos in timpul testului, probabil ca e infundat traseul de retur de dupa rampa de injectie. Incearca sa sufli in retur, se duce aerul, sau sufli in pereti?
Daca nu vine benzina, regulatorul de presiune e blocat.

Asta ar fi primul test pe care l-as face. Daca nu e concludent... trebuie sa te apuci de verificat injectia, sonde etc sad.gif


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post Dec 8 2008, 12:02 PM
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am sticla, am furtun, am si masina la servici, sculele in portbagaj, chef nu mai conteaza daca am, de facut tot trebuie sa o fac, altfel ajung sa nu mai dorm noaptea. vedem ce-o iesi, daca te plictisesti diseara, intre 5:30 si...cat o fi, sau ai drum prin Baneasa, da-mi un semn, sa-ti zic unde sunt.


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post Dec 8 2008, 12:14 PM
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Baneasa e cam departe.
Stau pana la 6-7 la serviciu, apoi cred ca merg acasa , in Romana, poate mai desfac la aerotermele mele.
E tarziu pentru tine?


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post Dec 8 2008, 12:20 PM
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daca la 5:30-6 plec de la servici, nu e tarziu, numai ca nu stiu unde parchez prin zona pe la tine


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post Dec 8 2008, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (MeHigh @ Dec 8 2008, 12:20 PM) *
daca la 5:30-6 plec de la servici, nu e tarziu, numai ca nu stiu unde parchez prin zona pe la tine

Furtunas 11 din link trebuie montat, ala mai scade presiune in rampa cand motor e in sarcina mica.
Poate sune ciudat, dar vezi daca ai o valva EPG si daca nu e stricat.. la e32 merge nasol pe relanti si cnad e sarcina mica cand ala e stricat. De cand am infipt un dop de pix in furtunas catre valva merge mai bine la mine. Alte surse de aer fals trebuie verificat.
Si totusi, daca rest de bujii sunt ok decat 2, nu o fi comanda de bobine din calculator? Fiecare bobina are pamantarea lui sau poate sunt legat cate 2? Si ala nu e bun la 5 si 6? Ar fi o idea sa faci o proba cu un alt calculator.


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post Dec 8 2008, 02:25 PM
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bobinele sunt impamantate 3 cate 3, am doar 2 mase suplimentare la bobine. sigur e problema la regulatorul ala de presiune, fie de la vacuum, fie de la el propriu-zis. am sa incerc sa ii dau de cap cand scap de la servici, dau jos capacul de plastic sa vad ce si cum accesez acolo. e urat locul sub galeria de admisie, e foarte inghesuit acolo si nu prea imi intra lopetile sa vad ce si cum.
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post Dec 8 2008, 08:28 PM
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regulatorul nu e blocat, in 5 secunde a scuipat 500 ml benzina intr-o sticla.vacuumul care iese din galeria de admisie si merge la regulator e ok(furtunul).
vreo 3 km a mers bine, apoi iar a inceput sa faca ca toti dracii..
unde ii pot face o diagnoza la motor?


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post Dec 8 2008, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (MeHigh @ Dec 8 2008, 08:28 PM) *
regulatorul nu e blocat, in 5 secunde a scuipat 500 ml benzina intr-o sticla.vacuumul care iese din galeria de admisie si merge la regulator e ok(furtunul).
vreo 3 km a mers bine, apoi iar a inceput sa faca ca toti dracii..
unde ii pot face o diagnoza la motor?

Am laptop + cablu + soft diagnoza dar nu stiu cum functioneaza inca blush.gif


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post Dec 9 2008, 09:05 AM
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post Dec 9 2008, 09:29 AM
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mah..o fi regulatorul ala ftt de baga prea multa benzina..ceva de la vacumuri, fire,etc? ai suflat pe retur? da in rezervor?


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post Dec 9 2008, 10:43 AM
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am suflat man pe retur, da in rezervor, vacuumul de la regulator e ok, furtunu ala micu nu e crapat, alimentarea e ok, cu returul pus intr-o sticla, a scuipat benzina garla in cateva secunde ( cam 4-500 ml in 5-6 secunde) deci regulatorul nu e blocat inchis....zda masii, poate nu mai tine presiunea care trebuie, insa nu am cu ce sa masor eu presiunea la care deschide el - o fi prea mica, o fi prea mare
acu am busonul desurubat, am uitat sa-l mai pun la loc la benzina, si de mers merge la fel, deci nu videaza rezervorul....
la sfarsitul saptamanii asteia o sa mai arunc un ochi la vacuumuri, eventual desfac galeria de admisie sa curat si mufele de pe sub ea, si sa ii schimb garniturile. daca nici asa nu rezolv, singura solutie care o mai am e testerul, poate e vreo sonda de temperatura, sau mai stiu eu ce alta dracie pe-acolo.
am ce face si in week-endul asta, 'tui mama masii.
am sa mai incerc ceva in week-end - scot toata benzina din rezervor, sa nu cumva sa aiba apa in ea, desi in 2000 km am tot ars benzina, dar zic s-o fac si pe asta.


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post Dec 11 2008, 12:02 PM
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de ieri, masina pe fata a incaltat 196/65/15, intrucat 235/17 erau prea late si nu mai aveam precizie in directie, pe zapada. deocamdata toate bune, plus ca masina da semne ca isi revine.


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post Dec 12 2008, 10:16 AM
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maine ii bag mana sub fustita : P
ma uit la senzorii de temperatura la apa, curat contactele acolo, si verific si furtune de sub admisie, FARA sa mai scot admisia - deocamdata.
aaa, si mai las si greutatile din portbagaj in garaj, ca de vreo luna merg dupa mine cu vreo 30 kg de scule si lichide in portbagaj, in caz de probleme.
toate bune deocamdata, nu pierd nici un fel de lichid, instalatiile sunt ermetice.
Misule, poate trec si pe la tine putin, sau poate ai drum la pitesti

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post Dec 15 2008, 08:13 AM
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noh, am gasit o chestie care imi dadea trepidatii, si anume un furtun crapat si altul care nu era bine infipt, le-am rezolvat pe amandoua prin inlocuire si prindere cu coliere, la regulatorul de ralanti.
stand eu asa in nemernicia mea, mi-am dat seama de un lucru: toate problemele astea cu balbele si ce imi mai mananca mie zilele au inceput dupa ce am pus termostatul la masina. cand nu avea ( DELOC ) termostat nu facea figuri, nici nu trecea temperatura de zona albastra, ce-i drept. e posibil ca toate astea sa vina de la termostat, sau e doar o coincidenta?


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Ianinte sa ai termostat nu ajunga la temperatura normala, posibil sa fie ignorat valori dat de sonda lambda etc. La a mea asa e.
Cand e motor rece, merge bine si acuma?
Merge mai bine cu furtunele reparat?


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post Dec 15 2008, 09:07 AM
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da, e mai bine cu furtunele prinse bine acolo, nu mai trage aer fals pe la nici unul. ai dreptate cu sonda lambda, cred ca va fi prima pe lista de cumparaturi. nu am reusit sa o diagnostichez vineri seara, se pare ca bavareza nu comunica cu tipul ala de tester pe care-l avea baiatul.
pentru inceput, am sa incerc sa merg un drum cu mufa la sonda lambda deconectata, sa vad cum se comporta, ar trebui sa se simta intr-un fel(mai bine sau mai rau), cred eu.


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Daca mai ajungi in Pitesti iti recomand eu pe cineva cu soft , mecanic de meserie, care a avut si el la randu-i tot un e34....
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