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post Oct 20 2008, 08:50 PM
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sunt pe cale sa schim injetia jetronic la motoru meu si vreau sa stiu daca pot pune injectie de 2.3 la motoru meu de 2.0 .ce difera sau ce diferente or sa fie apoi?


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post Oct 20 2008, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (db85amd @ Oct 20 2008, 09:50 PM) *
sunt pe cale sa schim injetia jetronic la motoru meu si vreau sa stiu daca pot pune injectie de 2.3 la motoru meu de 2.0 .ce difera sau ce diferente or sa fie apoi?

Banuiesc ca motronic sau orice sistem de fapt de pe 2.3 este optimizat pentru motor de 2.3, la debit de benzina ca si la curba de avans avans la aprindere. O sa merge pe 2.0 dar nu optim.
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post Oct 20 2008, 09:49 PM
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mda...se pare ca am gasit la cineva motronic,e de la un e34 520i M20,cica are si sonda lambda...ce motronic o fi? unsure.gif


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post Oct 20 2008, 10:55 PM
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2.3 motronic nu cred ca a fost.


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post Oct 20 2008, 11:38 PM
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eu stiu, ca, injectia jetronik e aceiasi si la motorul de 2.0 si la 2.3


M20B20 nu a avut mai multe feluri de motronik asa cum a fost cu M20B25, dar daca are catalizator e motronik II (nu are senzori la volanta in carcasa ambreiajului, acolo sunt senzorii la motronik I)


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post Oct 21 2008, 07:24 AM
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CITAT(io`s @ Oct 20 2008, 11:38 PM) *
eu stiu, ca, injectia jetronik e aceiasi si la motorul de 2.0 si la 2.3


M20B20 nu a avut mai multe feluri de motronik asa cum a fost cu M20B25, dar daca are catalizator e motronik II (nu are senzori la volanta in carcasa ambreiajului, acolo sunt senzorii la motronik I)

deci....daca are sonda lambda nu poa sa fie mot 1?
si in caz ca injectia e de la m20b25 merge pusa la mine la m20b20?sau de mers merge dar o sa cauzeze ceva sau o sa fie alte repercusiuni?


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post Oct 21 2008, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (db85amd @ Oct 21 2008, 08:24 AM) *
deci....daca are sonda lambda nu poa sa fie mot 1?
si in caz ca injectia e de la m20b25 merge pusa la mine la m20b20?sau de mers merge dar o sa cauzeze ceva sau o sa fie alte repercusiuni?

Daca ai de schimbat si volante si chiulase, e cam mare operatie.. sigur ca jetronic-ul nu pot fi pus la punct? Nu avem un specialist de jetronic pe aici? TiL?


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post Oct 21 2008, 11:02 AM
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e34 520 m20 are motronic 1.3.....(altii ii spun 2 dar ea practic asta e)

merge pusa injectia asta la tine.....

offtopic: scuza-ma ca nu ti-am rasp pe mess....vb noi
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post Oct 21 2008, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (haifisch @ Oct 21 2008, 12:02 PM) *
e34 520 m20 are motronic 1.3.....(altii ii spun 2 dar ea practic asta e)

merge pusa injectia asta la tine.....

offtopic: scuza-ma ca nu ti-am rasp pe mess....vb noi

1.3 am eu pe septar, e robust, merge si cu sonda lambda.


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post Oct 21 2008, 04:34 PM
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M-as juca putin cu jetronic-ul smile.gif , chiar daca la M20 n-am umblat niciodata. Cu M20 jetronic s-a jucat si madu' acum ceva vreme.

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post Nov 2 2008, 07:50 PM
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cum am ratat prima oferta de motronic,pt ca era de 2.5,mam gandit sa iau injectia lui MeHigh de la e34 in caz ca el pune m50.
acum....
el a zis ca a lui e motronic fara sonda lambda si altcineva ma zis ca asta fara sonda au senzorii(de la motor cred sau ce senzori sunt acolo) pe cutie,nu in fata la fulie ca cele cu sonda lambda
caz in care ar trebui sa iau si cutia?


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post Nov 7 2008, 02:42 AM
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motronic fara sonda lambda n-am auzit sa existe, pe e34 e clar motronic 1.3 deci nu are senzori pe cutie.
parerea mea e ca te complici cu motronic, sunt multe de schimbat, precum chiulasa, inst electrica, "volanta" din fata, pozitionarea senzorului de turatie, etc. mai bine te duci la cineva sa-ti regleze injectia asta a ta, daca nu se facea motronic ce te faceai?
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post Nov 7 2008, 06:28 AM
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CITAT(Rotti @ Nov 7 2008, 02:42 AM) *
motronic fara sonda lambda n-am auzit sa existe, pe e34 e clar motronic 1.3 deci nu are senzori pe cutie.
parerea mea e ca te complici cu motronic, sunt multe de schimbat, precum chiulasa, inst electrica, "volanta" din fata, pozitionarea senzorului de turatie, etc. mai bine te duci la cineva sa-ti regleze injectia asta a ta, daca nu se facea motronic ce te faceai?

am desfacut ieri motroniul de la mehigh pe la e34
nu are sonda lambda,din fabrica
chiuloasa nu tr schimbata,acolo in cap unde vine "distribuitoru ala" ca delco la chiuloasa se face adaptare plug&play si fara sa schimbi chelioasa,am mai vazut la cineva.oricum chiuloasele de la m20 jetronic si m20 motroni sunt identice,au si acelasi partnumber pe realoem
in rest...fulia aia mare din fata,nui problema,senzorul pt ea la fel ca deja am in bloc gaurile pt suportul senzorului
da o sa fie ceva de muca/bibilit dar eu zic ca merita.cum a pornit ieri dimineata e34 lui mehigh ma convisns si mia mult sa schimb injectia


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post Nov 7 2008, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Rotti @ Nov 7 2008, 02:42 AM) *
motronic fara sonda lambda n-am auzit sa existe, pe e34 e clar motronic 1.3 deci nu are senzori pe cutie.
parerea mea e ca te complici cu motronic, sunt multe de schimbat, precum chiulasa, inst electrica, "volanta" din fata, pozitionarea senzorului de turatie, etc. mai bine te duci la cineva sa-ti regleze injectia asta a ta, daca nu se facea motronic ce te faceai?

Parca era chiar e32 fara sonda. La inceput.


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