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 Jun 26 2006, 10:22 AM
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nu trebuie sa retrogadezi manual.. la franare violenta scade singura treapta de viteza , si chestia e valabila si cind accelerezi.. schimba singura in sus daca uita soferul.. altfel nu ar fi utilizabile in oras etc.
-------------------- A Mercedes fan, Audi owner on BMW forum
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Jun 26 2006, 03:00 PM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Deci nu exista/n-au existat secventiale fara modul pentru schimbare automata?
Adica sa fie ca la bicicleta, schimbi, pedalezi mai lent, dar mai greu, nu schimbi, te turezi de-ti sar tenishii din picioare 
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Jun 26 2006, 05:14 PM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 882 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 16 |
vorbeam de smg si alte mecanice comandate electronic.. secventialele folosite pe masinile de raliu vechi nu aveau electronica.. deci nu schimbau singure astea noi presupun ca nu te lasa sa spargi motorul dar nu stiu sigur -------------------- A Mercedes fan, Audi owner on BMW forum
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Jun 26 2006, 09:33 PM
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9% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 11-November 05 Member No.: 96 |
Eu unul cred ca o cutie secventiala este exact ca una manuala numai ca actioneaza singura ambreiajul!
Nu e ca una automata sa stie sa coboare in trepte sau asa ceva decat daca ar avea program auto, Enzo nu are decat secventiala manual(spre exemplu) deci nu stie sa schimbe singura! Daca franezi violent cu o cutie manuala retrogradezi singur in trepta necesara, la fel si la secventiala, apesi de 4-5 ori consecutiv clapeta DOWN! Daca e sa poti pleca cu a 5-a de pe loc cu una manuala vei pleca si cu una secventiala! Daca nu, nu! Avantajul la o cutie secventiala e ca schimba extrem de rapid, cel putin pe hartie, desi prin reviste citeam ca ar aparea intarzieri la schimbarea treptelor! Interesant de aflat ar fi reperele softwarelui pt ambreiaj, mai exact cat de repede apasa sau da drumul la ambreiaj in diferite conditii(gen demaraj in "tromba", sau franari bruste, sau daca decupleaza in caz de frana de motor sau nu). |
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Jun 27 2006, 01:05 PM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 882 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 16 |
enzo are padle shift dupa cate stiam eu, asta inseamna comanda electronica, sunt 99,9% sigur ca schimba automat.
-------------------- A Mercedes fan, Audi owner on BMW forum
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Jun 27 2006, 01:12 PM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
QUOTE Like an F1 car, the gearbox in the Enzo is coupled directly to the rear of the engine by a casting that doubles as the engine oil tank. The six-speed gearbox adopts triple cone synchronizers on all ratios to ensure smooth changes, which are entrusted entirely to an electrohydraulic system activated by the driver using paddles behind the steering wheel. A fully automatic option is not offered.
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Jun 28 2006, 12:21 AM
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 xX Group: Root Admin Posts: 545 Joined: 25-October 05 From: London, UK Member No.: 63 Car: K13R - soon Engine: 1.3 4L |
QUOTE A fully automatic option is not offered.
Cred ca bec a vrut sa spuna ca sigur schimba automat "in protectie" adica la limitele superioare si inferioare de turatii. Si eu cred acelasi lucru. -------------------- xi // GSR
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Jun 28 2006, 06:37 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
nu vad de ce ar face-o
 Masina are un anumit target...
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Jun 28 2006, 07:41 PM
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 CSL fan Group: Insiders Posts: 1,944 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Bucharest, Pta. Romana Member No.: 120 Car: e39 530da touring Engine: 3.0D |
QUOTE (TiL) Masina are un anumit target... sa se strice fara urme de greseli ale lor si sa coste mult
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Jun 28 2006, 08:35 PM
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82% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 882 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE (sixx) QUOTE A fully automatic option is not offered.
Cred ca bec a vrut sa spuna ca sigur schimba automat "in protectie" adica la limitele superioare si inferioare de turatii. Si eu cred acelasi lucru. binenteles. mai ales ca "targetul" masinii nu cuprinde piloti ci mai mult ratati cu foarte multi bani. -------------------- A Mercedes fan, Audi owner on BMW forum
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Jun 28 2006, 10:24 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Administrators Posts: 8,513 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp |
Nu stiu daca un becali ar pune mana atat de usor pe Enzo, cum a reusit cu maybach-ul.
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Jun 28 2006, 10:33 PM
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CSL fan Group: Insiders Posts: 1,944 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Bucharest, Pta. Romana Member No.: 120 Car: e39 530da touring Engine: 3.0D |
nou probabil k nu ...dar si maybach-ul este luat la mana a 2-a parka ... iar enzo la mana a 2-a se gasesc
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Jun 28 2006, 10:34 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
enzo nu se mai vinde nou de ceva vreme..
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Jun 28 2006, 10:35 PM
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CSL fan Group: Insiders Posts: 1,944 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Bucharest, Pta. Romana Member No.: 120 Car: e39 530da touring Engine: 3.0D |
fiindca nu se mai produce sau sunt prea lungi listele de asteptare
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Jun 28 2006, 10:39 PM
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100% BMW corupt Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,263 Joined: 18-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 13 Car: E36 325i Engine: M50 192CP |
fiindca au fost facute cateva bucati doar.. 400 daca nu ma insel..
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Jun 28 2006, 11:29 PM
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CSL fan Group: Insiders Posts: 1,944 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Bucharest, Pta. Romana Member No.: 120 Car: e39 530da touring Engine: 3.0D |
aha :paranoid:
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Jun 29 2006, 06:13 AM
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 100% BMW corupt Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,172 Joined: 26-November 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 109 Car: E34 Engine: M50 2.5 192CP |
Si ca sa-ti cumperi un Enzo trebuia sa fii invitat de cei de la Ferrari sa il cumperi, nu te duceai si ziceai ca vrei un Enzo ca nu mergea. Am vazut cateva emisiuni pe Discovery cu chestia asta.
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Jun 29 2006, 12:19 PM
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CSL fan Group: Insiders Posts: 1,944 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Bucharest, Pta. Romana Member No.: 120 Car: e39 530da touring Engine: 3.0D |
da dar acum era vb de mana a 2-a ... crezi k iti mai zice tie cineva dupa ce o cumperi de la altul -------------------- www.printareieftina.uv.ro - Servicii dtp, printare, copiere si multe altele |
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Mar 3 2007, 07:03 PM
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 meep meep!! Group: Members Posts: 1,010 Joined: 17-October 05 From: - Member No.: 5 Car: - Engine: - |
Are cineva cutie secventiala? Poate scrie cateva impresii.
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Mar 3 2007, 10:10 PM
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 36% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 372 Joined: 30-December 06 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 499 Car: E23 Engine: M30 2,8 135 kW |
Cand mi-am luat masina s-a pus problema cum sa fie, automata sau manuala. Raspunsul a fost de departe, manuala. Dupa parerea mea, cutia manuala are un feeling aparte, simti ca esti la volan si nu stai ca o momaie cu piciorul pe frana.
Nu stiu cum sunt cele secventiale si nu cred ca pentru un sofer obisnuit ar aduce ceva in plus fata de una clasica. La o cursa, da, conteaza cele cateva microsecunde in plus, dar la majoritatea soferilor (ca mine) nu prea conteaza si nu vad de ce as plati in plus pentru ceva ce nu-mi aduce un avantaj evident. In plus nu-mi place ca masina sa fie plina de electronica peste tot ... unele chestii ar trebui sa ramana pur mecanice. Parerea mea ! 
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