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post Dec 24 2005, 11:18 PM
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Nu stiu daca mai e un topic deschis pe tema asta, daca exista rog un moderator sa-mi mute postul.
Zo, trebuie sa schimb uleiul la ursulica: ce sa pun?
- 10W40 BMW OEM
- 10W40 Castrol (de care?)
- 5W40 Castrol (de care?)
Sau ce alte sugestii aveti?
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post Dec 24 2005, 11:48 PM
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RS :cool:


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post Dec 25 2005, 08:43 AM
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Floriol .. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 25 2005, 08:51 AM
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castrol sunt cele mai bune. alea cu magnezium parca gt3 parca. nu imi aduc aminte. si un dura lube de la mama lui.
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post Dec 25 2005, 09:58 AM
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si de ce sa dai dublu pe unu castrol cand poti sa iei din ala de la Bmw, care tot castrol am inteles ca e.. si totusi.. e ulei Bmw biggrin.gif
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post Dec 25 2005, 12:09 PM
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un 10w-40 de la castrol este f bun,nu are sens sa iei RS numai daca stai cu el prin forje ,in rest nu se diferentiaza decat la temperaturi mai inalte unde cecelalte nu isi mai fac treaba.La unnele masini am observat ca rs -ul face depuneri ,la Bmw nu am vazut


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post Dec 25 2005, 12:16 PM
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Castrol 10w-40...altceva nu... smile.gif


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post Dec 25 2005, 09:25 PM
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RS-ul 10W60 e foarte bun, n-am ce sa-i reprosez, dar pentru mine nu e bun iarna. Vara e foarte ok, dar iarna nu pentru ca e prea subtire. :|
Ok, iau 10W40 Castrol maine. :nod:


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post Dec 25 2005, 09:40 PM
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Castrol TXT 5W40 asta folosesc eu
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post Mar 9 2006, 11:55 PM
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pentru noi amaratzii cu m20 ce ulei sa punem? ca eu am benzina in ulei. si trebe sa fac schimbul. neaparat. mai trebuie sai verific injectoarele si rampa si pompa de benzina. si sa pun si filtrul de benzina pe care il am in portbagaj. sa le iau pe fiecare in parte a le fac. ce ulei e mai bun? cat costa ala de bmw?
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post Mar 10 2006, 09:30 AM
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RS-ul 10W60 e foarte bun, n-am ce sa-i reprosez, dar pentru mine nu e bun iarna. Vara e foarte ok, dar iarna nu pentru ca e prea subtire. :|  


eu stiam tocmai invers :eek:


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post Mar 10 2006, 10:34 AM
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nu merg toti cilindrii. si asta e de la bobina de la delcou. lasa ca o fac eu. nui pb.
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post Mar 10 2006, 11:20 AM
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eu folosesc elf sporti txi 15W40 si sunt multumit de el :nod:


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post Mar 11 2006, 10:23 AM
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tb sa fac schimbul de ulei. a pus cineva mol carrier la motor turbo diesel? e destul de bun ca pret (10ron/l) dar nu stiu cat de bun este calitativ....


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post Mar 11 2006, 10:44 AM
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Iarna asta am folosit Mobil 5W40 din metro/carrefour/cora etc - vreo 210RON/bidon 4l
Prin aprilie-mai o sa il skimb (~8.000km) cu Castrol TWS 10w60 dela BMW - "succesorul" lui RS, mai bun decât el din cate am inteles si mai putin gros, chiar daca are aceeasi clasa de vâscozitate

Io nu as merge iarna cu RS, dimineata probabil ca e un fel de marmelada in loc de ulei..


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post Mar 11 2006, 11:22 AM
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Exact. :nod:


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post Mar 11 2006, 01:00 PM
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de unde iau si eu ulei dinala de bmw? au astia la ausburg iasi? si cate kg incap intr-un m20 2.000 cmc? vreo 5?
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post Mar 11 2006, 02:16 PM
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TWS nu cred ca il gasesti decat la BMW in Otopeni (nu stiu de Filaret)
La mine intra 6.5l :unibrow:, M20B20 se pare ca ia 4.3l..


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post Mar 11 2006, 03:20 PM
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Cel mai indicat este sa pui valoarea fluiditatii si cea a vascozitatii recomandata de fabricant pt ca el a facut niste teste cand a facut acel motor care are anumite tolerante intre piese la rece si la cald si un anumit coeficient al dilatarii pieselor in miscare in functie de aliajul produsului si s-ar putea ca atunci cand tu consideri sa pui un ulei mai gros sau mai subtire decat cel recomandat sa ii faci rau motorului printr-o ungere insuficienta cel mai frecvent la rece ,bine si sa te ghidezi dupa zona unde folosesti acea masina adica intre ce tamperaturi te incadrezi in acea zona .acum dupa ce ti-ai propus sa spunem sa respecti indicatiile constructorului trebuie sa te uiti dupa indicele nivelului de performanta al uleiului .Nivelul de performanta european se noteaza cu ACEA iar cel american cu API ,cel european include indicativele A pt mot pe benzina si B pt cele diesel,Acum cel mai indicat indice de performanta avand in vedere raportul calitate pret este A3/B3 care se gaseste si la cele semisintetice si la cele sintetice ,exista si norme mai inalte dar acele uleiuri sunt scumpe si se schimba la intervale mai lungi de timp,Parerea mea este ca cel mai bun ulei de pe piatra romaneasca este Castrol si Mobil,cu toate ca este relativa un pic situatia deoarece am auzit ca marfa pt piata de Est difera de cea pt piata de Vest adica este mai slaba calitativ.


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post Mar 13 2006, 12:18 AM
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Si cum as putea afla ce ulei recomanda BMW pt. motorul M10 al meu?


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post Mar 13 2006, 12:49 AM
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O sursa exacta de pe un program BMW nu am dar am de pe Autodata care este ok si it recomanda 10w-40 pt un regim de clima moderata,acum exact ce maraca sa iei nu stiu sa iti spun depinde de ce fonduri ai disponibile pt achizitioanrea uleiului si a filtrului,eu as recomanda ,primul pe lista Castrol Magnatec si urmatorul ar fi Mobil


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post Mar 13 2006, 01:52 AM
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de unde cumpar ulei bmw?? jafarr??? de unde?
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post Mar 13 2006, 02:39 AM
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post Mar 13 2006, 08:08 AM
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post Mar 13 2006, 09:16 AM
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post Mar 13 2006, 05:09 PM
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O sursa exacta de pe un program BMW nu am dar am de pe Autodata care este ok si it recomanda 10w-40 pt un regim de clima moderata,acum exact ce maraca sa iei nu stiu sa iti spun depinde de ce fonduri ai disponibile pt achizitioanrea uleiului si a filtrului,eu as recomanda ,primul pe lista Castrol Magnatec si urmatorul ar fi Mobil

Merci mult George! :!: :thumbsup:


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post Mar 16 2006, 10:05 PM
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sunt bune uleiurile aral 15w40??? sau in general aral?
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cica nu.. pe mine m-au certat mai multi ca am bagat aral (10w40) :paranoid:
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post Mar 16 2006, 11:29 PM
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si pe mine


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post Mar 16 2006, 11:44 PM
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de uleiurile "varsate" ce parere aveti???


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post Mar 17 2006, 12:00 AM
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Asa ma gandeam si eu biggrin.gif dar am vb azi cu un mester de la schimburi de ulei care zicea ca sunt mai "originale" astea varsate


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dar 15w40 de la aral e bun? si cam cat ma ajunge la bani.
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post Mar 17 2006, 09:45 AM
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scrie undeva ca e decat pt renault?


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eu am bagat aral 10w40 aproape 3 ani, ce-aveti ? e foarte bun.

Pai eu mi-am luat injuraturi pt Aral ala...


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deci care e cel mai bun???? eu ma gandeam la aceste uleiuri:
1.aral-care este sintetic?? toate??
2.castrol magnatec sau cum so numi.
3.10w40??? 15w40???

si mai am o intrebare de taran prost. asta este. eu nu stiu..
4.pe unde se pune uleiul?? pe sus prin capacul ala de la culbutori????
5.ce filtru de ulei sa pun???
6.trebuie s amai cumpar kkt dinala de curatat?
7.sa mai pun dura lube???
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post Mar 21 2006, 09:47 AM
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dar mi-o zis cineva ca nu sunt bune uleiurile alea. deci cat ai zis... 5 euro litrul?? acuma intrebarea vine... daca ai pus 3 ani numai alral.. de c enu ai pus bmw??
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si de unde ai zis ca pot lua uleiul??
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post Mar 21 2006, 10:11 AM
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post Mar 21 2006, 10:26 AM
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da sigur atat costa? 5 euro litrul? dar un litru de ulei pt diferential de unde iau si ce firma?
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post Mar 21 2006, 11:17 AM
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dar un litru de ulei pt diferential de unde iau si ce firma?
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ok. am inteles. uwe poate sa itzi confirme ca e lsd.
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post Apr 25 2006, 09:55 AM
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are ceva daca bag 5w40? o sa-l pape? smile.gif
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am pus elf 10w40 acum vreo 2 sapt si am facut cca 1000 km, inclusiv mers la munte, pe autostrada, oras. motorul merge mai bine si consuma mai putin. deci cui are un diesel similar, il recomand.


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post Apr 25 2006, 03:27 PM
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maine sau pooimaine imi iau 5 litri de ulei 10w40 castrol magnatec.... si am si un filtru de ulei de luat maine... un bosch. il stiu pe patronul de la firma si imi da si discoaunt si cand mai vin produsele promotionale imi da si o sapca.... :cool:
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tu defapt vrei sapca, nu? biggrin.gif

haideti oameni buni, ziceti-mi si mie, are ceva daca pun 5w40?
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pai asta e asha, ca gest. daca nu mai am ulei in motor... ce sa fac? daca mio curs tot in 5 minute... cica 5 w40 nu e prea bun, pt ca motorul nu este nou. si o sa pape... cred. asta am auzit. cred ca mai bine 10w40....
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cat de repede o sa-l pape?
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1 litru la 10.000 nu-i grav.
Confirm cele spuse de azeea, am si eu elf TD 10W40 si se comporta mai bine decat 15W40 (pe care-l cam papa)

Acum am aceeasi dilema ca si Florin: sa pun oare 5W40 acum , cand vine vara? Stiti, am cumparat 5l Texaco Havoline 5W40 la un pret imbatabil wink.gif


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5W40 e mai de iarna...tongue.gif vara merita ceva mai gros putzin totusi altfel s-ar putea sa ai si un zgomot mai mare de la motor si cine stie ce surprize... sfatul meu e sa tii uleiul la pret imbatabil ptr iarna si acum sa bagi tot un 10 W 40 ...wink.gif eventual RS (10W60) ca sa vezi cum e sa dai un car de bani...smile.gif :unibrow:
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Fara numar laugh.gif RS e un ulei foarte bun pacat ca e scump :crybaby:
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Pt un ulei "racing" e f.f. ieftin - ~400.000 litrul
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intreb iar.. are ceva daca pun mobil1 5w40?
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Eu pun MObil 10W40-semisintetic.....am dat in jur de 1,2 mil cu filtru cu tot.......mere UNSA masina !

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are ceva daca bag 5w40? o sa-l pape? smile.gif
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costa 5 euro + tva. adica dai vreun milion pe 5 litri, ca-ti trebuie 4.3 si restul pastrezi sa completezi. eu am vreo 4 sticle cu 0.7l prin portbagaj , mereu uit de ele smile.gif


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Chiar e pe bune treaba cu ulei pt diesel/ulei pt benzina?
Din cate vad toate uleiurile pentru benzine sunt compatibile dizel. Poti citi pe bidoane ambele standarde.

Da, e pe bune. Sunt unele motoare diesel mai pretentioase la ulei, vezi motoarele TDI PD de la vw/audi, care cer ulei norma vw 505.01 (cu mici exceptii, adica unele merg cu ulei 506.01 care e Long Life, dar nu e valabil si in Romania).
Diesel-urile mai vechi nu sunt asa de pretentioase, dar trebuie sa pui un ulei care e si pentru diesel si care respecta normele decute de acel motor.
Nu stiu exact care e treaba pentru masinile cu tehnologie diesel common rail de la alte marci ca nu m-au interesat. Eu sunt cu pata pusa pe masinile vw/audi si bmw, nu ma intereseaza altele.


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cati litrii intra in m20 2.5 ?
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Clar schimb uleiul in weekend si toate filtrele si ideea este ca nu stiu daca sa pun 10w60 sau 5w40... diferenta de bani e minima pana la urma... eu am un e46 din 2000 cu motorul de 1.9...
daca cineva a mai folosit asa ceva in asa motor chiar vreau sfaturi... eu recunosc ca merg ceva mai infipt (nu ca la liniute desigur dar daca e nevoie bag piciorul in pedala)...
la filtre cred ca o sa merg pe champion... nu e obligatoriu dar alternativa e mahle sau ceva comparabil...
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la e46 325 (m54tu) trebuie 0w30 (sau 40?)..

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La temperaturile care au fost afara zilele astea (peste 35 grade C la umbra), poate ar fi o idee buna sa verificati ce ulei aveti in motor. Mai ales daca aveti motoare de generatie mai veche (M10, M20, M30) care au fost proiectate pentru uleiuri minerale mai vascoase.

In principiu, daca folositi un ulei sintetic sau semisintetic, nu sunt motive de ingrijorare.

Totusi, pentru un ulei mineral xW40 (10W40 sau 15W40), tempertura ambientala este cam la limita. Nu inseamna neaparat ca trebuie sa schimbati uleiul. Dar cred ca se impune sa evitati "forjarea" motorului, macar la amiaza, pe caldura de foc.

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Eu merg cu 5W40 sintetic acum smile.gif Thanks akajohn.

Merge frumos, il papa un pic (de fapt un pic mai mult), asta e motor uzat, posibil sa scape compresie pe la un piston...


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Stiam io de ce-am bagat 10w60.. biggrin.gif
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mda la unele m50 la pornire tacane un pic tachetii pana le vine ulei, incearca sa schimbi filtrul de ulei


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Ideea e ca pana acum nu mi-au facut deloc figuri taketii, nici cu Castrol 0w30, nici cu Mobil 5w40.. Pur si simplu cred ca 10w60 e prea gros..

Filtrul e luat dela Bavaria, hmm, nu cred (sper) sa fie probleme


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l-ai cumparat de la bavaria s-au tot acolo e schimbat? poate daca ei ti-au facut schimbul de ulei l-au lasat pe ala vechi smile.gif cumpara un filtru mann de ulei si vezi daca mai face


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l-ai cumparat de la bavaria s-au tot acolo e schimbat? poate daca ei ti-au facut schimbul de ulei l-au lasat pe ala vechi smile.gif cumpara un filtru mann de ulei si vezi daca mai face

Doar l-am cumparat dela Bavaria, l-am montat intr-un service (Autofix) pe la Maica Domnului..

Dar, ce se poate intampla daca se aud taketii 2-3" de la pornire?
Si, sigur problema e _doar_ de la filtru? Nu poate fi si de la vascozitatea uleiului?


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Stiam io de ce-am bagat 10w60.. biggrin.gif
Zilele astea parca nici nu am mai auzit dimineata acel zgomot (de culbutori?)

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Eu merg cu 5W40 sintetic acum smile.gif Thanks akajohn.

Merge frumos, il papa un pic (de fapt un pic mai mult), asta e motor uzat, posibil sa scape compresie pe la un piston...


deci pana la urma l-ai pus vara...smile.gif eu am facut schimbul acum vreo 2-3 saptamani si e totul OK... si mie imi papa putintel ulei si ma gandeam sa merg pe 10 W 60 acum dar m-ati lamurit ca e mai bine sa pun ce recomanda BMW adica 5W40 Castrol... Asta e...
Cu ocazia schimburilor de ulei si filtre am descoperit ca filtrul de benzina nu fusese schimbat niciodata... avea data fabricatiei pe el si era cel pus original pe masina... sa mai zici ceva de nemti...tongue.gif acum ma uit dupa 2 bucse...smile.gif
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la recomandarea unor meshteri bagasem cand s-o incepu vara in M20 meu 20w-50 de la HPX,lucru de care nu sunt dezamagit pt ca masina vede des 5000rpm la 35grade afara,dar in sept il schimb cel mai sigur cu unu semisynthetic.ca si branduri ma gandesc mult la aral/castrol/reprezentanta(desi la reprez nush daca 10w-40 e semisynthetic????)

as bate spre aral din simplul motiv ca e fabricat in germany,si e semi la un pret bun(20ron/L).
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10w40 e semi sintetic... si 15w40 nu e sintetic.... deabia 5w40 e full sintetic. eu am castrol(adica am avut si o sa mai pun maine inca 3 litri). magnatec ala e bun. 370 de mii litru cam asa.. nu mai retin... 10w40 motor m20.
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de ce ai bagat 10w60?

Ca sa protejez motorul.. biggrin.gif
Are una din cele mai mari valori de presiune kg/cm2 suportata

Dar, de ce nu?


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10w60 este fabricat sa-si pastreze proprietati optime de ungere in plaja de temperaturi ambientale de -25 .. +50 grade celsius.
Din cate am citit eu, singura modalitate de a pastra proprietatile de ungere al unui ulei la temperaturi joase si la temperaturi ridicate este de a folosi in componenta lui acele particole numite polimeri. Cu cat plaja de temperaturi pentru care se preteaza uleiul este mai mare, cu atat procentul de polimeri folosit la fabricarea uleiului este mai mare.
Din pacate, polimerii nu au proprietati de ungere, altfel spus, principala calitate al acestui ulei este de a asigura ungerea motorului incepand de la -25 de gade pana la + 50 de grade (temperatura ambientala), si nu ungerea motorului la temperaturi ambientale de 20-50 de grade in regim de RPM ridicat in majoritatea timpului de utilizare.
Daca sunteti persoane lenese, folosirea acestui ulei va scuteste de a efectua schimbul de ulei in functie de anotimp (daca iarna ar fi -25 de grade minim, iar vara 50 de grade maxim), sau daca vreti sa mergeti din Siberia pana in Spania fara sa schimbati uleiul.
Stiu ca pe vremuri uleiul Castrol RS 10w60 era recomandat de BMW pentru motoarele M, dar daca veti consulta un reprezentant BMW veti afla ca marca asta de ulei (chiar daca se fabrica in continuare sub acelasi nume) dpdv BMW a fost inlocuita cu alta marca de la Castrol.
RS-ul din denumirea de azi e doar un concept de marketing al Castrol, el nefiind folosit de divizia Motorsport a lui BMW. Ideea care a ramas ca "barfa" ca acest ulei e pentru raceri, e gresita dupa parerea mea. Vedeti mai sus explicatia cu polimerii. Eu daca stiu ca voi folosi masina pentru curse, RPM ridicat in marea majoritate a timpului as pune un ulei care are cei doi factori de vascozitate mai apropiati unul de celalalt (pentru a avea o cantitate mai mica de polimeri, deci pentru a avea mai multe elemente de ungere in ulei) si care sa se preteze pentru sezonul respectiv.
Adik, vara as folosi: SAE40, iar iarna un SAE 5W30 (pentru Bucuresti + drumuri la munte). Daca as sta la Intorsura Buzaului, probabil iarna as pune SAE 0W30.


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Darren, o singura intrebare as avea: De ce fraierii de la Castrol scriu pe al lor 10W 60 "racing", acelasi lucru il scriu cei de la Mobil pe al lor 5W 50 etc.

Oare sunt 2 producatori atinsi de "barfe" ?

PS. Oare de ce ar costa mai mult sa-ti faci motorul "pilaf"? (Vezi diferenta de pret intre un 0W 30 si 10W 60, daca privim punctul tau de vedere)


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Cei de la Castrol nu sunt fraieri ca scriu "racing" pe cutiile de ulei. Eu ma refeream la "acel" ulei RS, pe care l-am gasit in documentiatia de la BMW (unde am si citit ca nu mai e "ce-a fost" si ca BMW nu-l mai recomanda ca fiind BMW approved, chiar daca se va produce in continuare un ulei sub denumirea aia). O sa ma uit si o sa scriu exact.
Orice ulei care are plaja de temperaturi ambientale mai mare e mai scump decat cel fabricat sa unga in parametrii normali intr-o plaja de temperaturi ambientale mai mica. (Poate fi doar marketing, sau si costuri de productie mai mici, asta nu am de unde sa stiu).

Later edit: motorul poti sa-l faci pilaf si cu ulei bun, si cu ulei prost. Sau si cu ulei potrivit pentru zona de temperaturi in care folosesti masina, si cu un ulei bun de tinut in motor de la -25 la +50 de grade celsius. Exista o legenda potrivit careia , cu cat sunt acele 2 cifre din indicele SAE mai departate, cu atat uleiul e "mai bun". Asta vroiam sa subliniez, ca nu e "mai bun", ci doar e mai comod.


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Iulika, uite ce zice Castrol pentru masina ta:

[list]Make BMW
Model 3 Series: 325i/is Coupe, -Convertible (M50, E36)
Engine P
Year 1990-97


Application Recommendation Capacity (ltr)
Engine (P) Castrol's best oil for your vehicle EDGE SPORT 0W-40 (a) 6.5
Alternative recommendation GTX MAGNATEC 10W-40 (a)
Manual Transmission (e,h) 1.2
Automatic Transmission (f) 3
Differential REFER TO MAIN DEALER 1.7
Coolant ANTIFREEZE 10.5
Brake Fluid RESPONSE SUPER DOT 4
Wheel Bearings LM GREASE
Differentials - Front/rear (with non-limited slip differentials or with viscous differential lock) REFER TO MAIN DEALER
Limited Slip Differentials - multi-plate/lamella/electro-hydraulic SAF-XJ (Special Order Only)
Hide Notes Oil Change Intervals


Lubricant / Capacity Notes
a. Engine oil recommendations: EDGE 0W-30 for all engines except S62/E39 up to Feb 2000; EDGE 0W-30 may also be used in all engines except N42, N62, W10-supercharged (and S62 /E39 up to Feb 2000); Longlife-01FE (Fuel Economy) may only be used in N42, N62 and W10 engines
e. Manual gearboxes: units with orange label with wording 'ATF Oil', TQD; units with green label with wording 'Special Oil', REFER TO MAIN DEALER. The labels are located next to the oil filler plug
h. Manual gearbox units with yellow label with wording 'MTF-LT-1': REFER TO MAIN DEALER; units with yellow label with wording 'MTF-LT-2': REFER TO MAIN DEALER;units with no label: SYNTRAX UNIVERSAL. The labels are located next to the oil filler plug
f. Automatic transmissions: ZF 3HP22, ZF 4HP22, ZF 4HP22EH, 4HP24, A4S270R/310R/310Z (with black rating plate), TQ DEXRON III; A5S310Z, ZF 5HP 19, ZF 5HP 24, ZF HP30 (with green rating plate), REFER TO MAIN DEALER; all others, check label for special lifetime fill requirements. Always check manuals/labels to ensure use of correct fluid


General Notes
1. Power steering (where fitted, without combined self-levelling suspension and brake booster servo system): TQD
2. Power steering with self-levelling suspension and brake booster servo (where fitted- reservoir in engine compartment): E24, E28; REFER TO MAIN DEALER/LHM prior to 9/87. After 9/87 use REFER TO MAIN DEALER only; E32 prior to 9/91 use REFER TO MAIN DEALER only; E32 and E34 from 9/91 use REFER TO MAIN DEALER only. Always check label on fluid reservoir for correct type of fluid.
3. Self-levelling suspension (where fitted, reservoir in boot): REFER TO MAIN DEALER/LHM; before Aug 1987: REFER TO MAIN DEALER. REFER TO MAIN DEALER and REFER TO MAIN DEALER may be mixed but neither should be mixed with LHM
4. Clutch fluid: RESPONSE SUPER DOT 4; (except E36/E46 M3 models with sequential M-Transmission and E46 with sequential transmission S5D 320Z: REFER TO MAIN DEALER)
5. Capacities for auto. transmissions are drain/refill capacities
6. Petrol engine oil viscosity recommendations: -20°C to 10°C, 10W-30; -20°C to 20°C, 10W-40; above -15°C, 15W-40; below 10°C, 5W-30; below 0°C, 5W-20. Oils listed and approved under BMW 'Longlife Oils' for all year round use: 0W-X and 5W-X
7. Diesel engine oil viscosity recommendations: -30°C to 30°C, 0W-30/5W-30, above -30°C, 5W-40/5W-50; -20°C to 30°C, 10W-30; above -20°C, 10W-40/10W-60. Oils listed and approved under BMW 'Longlife Oils' for all year round use: 0W-X and 5W-X
8. Use only BMW approved automatic transmission fluids and final drive gear oils
9. All models with service indicator: oil change interval varies with driving conditions, typically 15000 miles/24000 km
10. Cooling systems. Use ANTIFREEZE at a concentration of 50% or one part ANTIFREEZE with one part water




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Phone: 01793 452222 Email: autotechenquiries@castrol.com For Heavy Duty and Distributor enquiries, please call 01908 853133.
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Nu vad 10W60 scris nicaieri tongue.gif (exista modelul la ei pe site, don't worry)


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si pt 316i:

[list]Make BMW
Model 3 Series: 316i, -Touring (M40, E30)
Engine P
Year 1988-94


Application Recommendation Capacity (ltr)
Engine (P) Castrol's best oil for your vehicle EDGE SPORT 0W-40 (a) 4.3
Alternative recommendation GTX MAGNATEC 10W-40 (a)
Manual Transmission (e,h) 1.2
Automatic Transmission (f) 3
Differential REFER TO MAIN DEALER 0.9
Coolant ANTIFREEZE 6 / 6.5
Differentials - Front/rear (with non-limited slip differentials or with viscous differential lock) REFER TO MAIN DEALER
Limited Slip Differentials - multi-plate/lamella/electro-hydraulic SAF-XJ (Special Order Only)
Brake Fluid RESPONSE SUPER DOT 4
Wheel Bearings LM GREASE [list]


BTW, eu folosesc Mobil Synth 5W40 (E in categoria BMW Longlife '98 ), nu am nimic cu Castrol (am folosit 10W40 Magnatec cand aveam alta masina)


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Pentru cine are timp sa studieze despre uleiuri:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/index.html
pentru cine vrea un rezumat, il gaseste aici: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showt...ad.php?t=265292

Imi place concluzia din articolul acesta: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm

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The higher the spread between the bottom number and the top number the more VI improvers are relied on for maintaining the viscosity. Better to keep the numbers closer.


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gata... am luat 3 litri de ulei 10w40... pentru completare... :nod:
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Multumesc de info, Darren. Citesc si mai vb.


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QUOTE (Darren)
Pentru cine are timp sa studieze despre uleiuri:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/index.html
pentru cine vrea un rezumat, il gaseste aici: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showt...ad.php?t=265292

Imi place concluzia din articolul acesta: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm

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The higher the spread between the bottom number and the top number the more VI improvers are relied on for maintaining the viscosity. Better to keep the numbers closer.


Multumesc frumos! :nod:


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RS 10w60 e un ulei gros, io nu as pune asa ceva iarna in motor
Clasa de viscozitate "10" la rece nu prea corespunde unui ulei bun pt iarna.., "5" sau "0", da

Dar nu vorbim de RS, care a avut probleme (prea gros) si pe care nici io nu l-as folosi, ci de TWS, care e altceva

Gasisem undeva si specificatiile pt M50, iar 10w60 (generic, nu Castrol) era printre uleiurile noi aprobate..

Daca nu ar fi fost in halul asta de scump (dublu fata de un 5w40) as fi continuat sa pun Castrol 0w30


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am si eu o intrebare... deci pentru iarna si vara sunt practic 2 tipuri de uleiuri nu? intreb ca nu stiu ce se intampla... iarna trebuie un ulei mai subtire pentru a-l taia mai bine nu? sau nu stiu despre ce este vorba... astept lamuriri... multam
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RS 10w60 e un ulei gros, io nu as pune asa ceva iarna in motor
Clasa de viscozitate "10" la rece nu prea corespunde unui ulei bun pt iarna.., "5" sau "0", da

Dar nu vorbim de RS, care a avut probleme (prea gros) si pe care nici io nu l-as folosi, ci de TWS, care e altceva

Gasisem undeva si specificatiile pt M50, iar 10w60 (generic, nu Castrol) era printre uleiurile noi aprobate..

Daca nu ar fi fost in halul asta de scump (dublu fata de un 5w40) as fi continuat sa pun Castrol 0w30


Fa un test. Cumpara 1 litru de ulei 5w40 si 1litru de ulei 10w40. Tine-le in frigider vreo 6 ore. Daca tu reusesti sa-ti dai seama ca unul e mai gros (vizibil) decat celalalt, ok. tongue.gif

TWS e fostul RS (Da, TWS se pune in M-uri)
Vreau si eu sa vad pe cineva ca recomanda 10W60 pt motoarele M50. (Cineva = BMW, producatori de ulei care au produse "BWM approved")
Dupa cum ai vazut, Edge Sport 0W40 e "Castrol's best oil" pentru motorul tau.

:crybaby: pune-ti mey in motoare ce zice producatoru' ala nenorocit, nu mai faceti invetii

@316i, danrzc: your welcome


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"pune-ti mey in motoare ce zice producatoru' ala nenorocit, nu mai faceti invetii" nu depinde si de uzura motorului?
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Daca motorul ajunge sa fie atat de uzat incat folosirea uleiului specificat de producator devine imposibila, atunci nu mai are nici un rost sa te concentrezi asupra intrebarii "Ce ulei trebuie sa pun in motor ca sa-i prelungesc durata de functionare intr-o stare impecabila?" tongue.gif


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