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post Jan 20 2008, 05:13 PM
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sa imi zica si mie cineva cum functioneaza si la ce foloseste vacuumul asta sau ce o fi el de lg acceleratie din poza.in pozitie stand by trebuie ca piulita aia din cap sa se atinga cu fierul ala de la acceleratie?la mine e 2 mm spatiu,nu se atinge,dar poa sa se fi indoit un pic cand am montat motoru si am mai lucrat pe la el...


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post Jan 20 2008, 08:41 PM
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previne deceleratia brusca, nu da masina in nas .... cum sa explic??? nu ai frana de motor violenta atunci cand ridici piciorul din acceleratie


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post Jan 20 2008, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (io`s @ Jan 20 2008, 08:41 PM) *
previne deceleratia brusca, nu da masina in nas .... cum sa explic??? nu ai frana de motor violenta atunci cand ridici piciorul din acceleratie

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post Jan 20 2008, 08:55 PM
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am si eu asa ceva. biggrin.gif
eu am observat doar cand opresc motorul ca tija aia impinge la maxim clapeta de acceleratie.
pedala la relanti are o pozitie si cand opresc motoru se simte cum se lasa in jos destul de mult..
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Accelereaza si uita-te la el sa vezi ce face/ Mi se pare ca e un fel de element de intarziere, cand iei piciorul brusc de pe acceleratie, el inchide clapeta treptat, nu brusc, cum se intampla la M30 LJetronic de exemplu. Probabil si frana de motor nu e atat de brutala datorita acestui sistem. Plus ca poate sa-ti protejeze clapeta de socuri.


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si in pozitie normala cu motor oprit tre sa fie lipita tija aia cu piulita de fierul de la acceleratie?eu intre ele am 2-3mm,se vede si in poza


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post Jan 20 2008, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (db85amd @ Jan 20 2008, 09:29 PM) *
si in pozitie normala cu motor oprit tre sa fie lipita tija aia cu piulita de fierul de la acceleratie?eu intre ele am 2-3mm,se vede si in poza

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si, pentru ca tot vorbim d motoare M20 aici, (scuze db85amd ca poluez topicul tau) spuneti-mi va rog, motorul M20B20 are sonda Lambda? Intreb asta, deoarece al meu motor, scoate mult abur, consuma mult si nu prea trage ( de inainte de schimbarea diff-ului ) nu ciupeste apa, deeci nu e garnitura de chiulasa. Din ceea ce am cautat pe net, astea ar fi simptome de sonda Lambda busita(consum, lipsa putere si abur la coada).
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post Jan 21 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (MeHigh @ Jan 21 2008, 10:08 AM) *
si, pentru ca tot vorbim d motoare M20 aici, (scuze db85amd ca poluez topicul tau) spuneti-mi va rog, motorul M20B20 are sonda Lambda?

Asta depinde de generatie de M20. Primele nici nu aveau injectie. Stiu la E32 ca cam dupa an de construcite '88 au sonda. Deci sunt aproape sigur ca ai si tu, daca ai E34. Pentru a fi sigur daca e defect sau nu, pot sa treci la un service unde au un tester, sau alternativ pot sa faci niste masuratori la sonda ta daca este cat de cat princeput cu multimetre si semnale electronice.

Iti recomand sa faci topic-uri proprie in viitor.


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post Jan 21 2008, 01:32 PM
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alea cu injectie motronic parca aveau...
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post Jan 21 2008, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (haifisch @ Jan 21 2008, 01:32 PM) *
alea cu injectie motronic parca aveau...

numai motronik 1.3 au sonda lambda

edit: de fapt da, ca M20B20 nu a avut motronik 1 laugh.gif


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sa inteleg, ca, am sonda lambda, asa, defecta cum e ea, dar o am biggrin.gif

...multumesc baieti, am de lucru acum sa o gasesc de cumparat.


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post Jan 21 2008, 03:54 PM
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cel mai bine ridica masina pe o rampa/elevator si uita-te pe traseul de evacuare, ar trebui sa fie pe acolo daca ai motronik (in caz ca nu a scos-o cineva sau a eliminat-o prin schimbarea traseului de evacuare)
de gasit nu cred ca e o problema, de fiecare data cand am avut nevoie am gasit fara probleme, preturi incep de la 150 ron cele universale pana la 150-200E originale (poate si mai scumpe )


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