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post Oct 15 2007, 07:39 PM
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Am un ursulet motor 2000 inj l-jetronic.Pina in 4500 ture rupe dar de acolo nu mai poate.Am probat si debitul pompei e super,alt debitmetru,alt calculator tot asa face.,Mentionez ca am ceva batai la tacheti.Asta sa fie buba?
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post Oct 15 2007, 07:41 PM
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post Oct 15 2007, 07:54 PM
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Asta cum dracu se mai probeaza?
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post Oct 15 2007, 08:03 PM
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Presupun ca se poate cu un manometru... dar mai bine cauti una care stii ca-i buna, o montezi la tine si faci o proba.


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Verifica bobina sau probeaza cu alta buna. Cele mai multe probleme de turatie apar din bobina.


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post Oct 15 2007, 09:34 PM
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ok...la mine e mai ciudat...eu am tot o problema de turatie....doar ca de la 4500 incepe sa rupa tot 2.0 pana acolo e cam moarta...
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post Oct 15 2007, 10:08 PM
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La tine buba e din alta parte, avans/benzina. smile.gif


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post Oct 15 2007, 11:11 PM
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am si eu pb cu turatia. imi da suturi numai la o anumita turatie... eu zic cca la mine e de la bobina. pt ca am crapato eu pe undeva. o sa probez cu alta biggrin.gif maine probez biggrin.gif.
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si eu am ceva nasol da nu prea am stat de masina.de 3 saptamani nu am mai miscat o cred,pana la 4000 4500 trage aproximativ cum trebuie dar peste nu ai trece deloc.am impresia ca vine in nas. pompa este noua avansul nu este pus bine o sa il rectific .bobina nu am schimbato sa vada daca simte ceva si supapa de retur nu am manuetru cu teu .ca merge si cu de ala de umflat rotile dar iti trebuie un teu la el:( ccred ca masinile astea au ceva cu 4000 de ture


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post Oct 17 2007, 11:32 AM
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eu cred k i-am dat de cap.Am umblat putin la delco si mere mai bine dar nu mai pot sa ai dau mai mult avans ca nu mai am de unde sa dau aer mai putin.Cica la mine raglajul de aer se face de unde e pus inj de pornire la rece si 2 furtune de aer,am acolo un surub gros.SAu nu de acolo se regleaza aerul.mentionez k e desfacut cam 4 ture?
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post Oct 17 2007, 02:48 PM
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Cred ca acolo e reglajul pentru relanti, nu pentru aer. Pentru aer umbli in debitmetru.
Din cate stiu eu, daca trage bine jos, iar in ture se plafoneaza, avansul e prea mare. Daca e lenes la turatii mici si se dezlantuie peste 4500-5000 rpm, avansul e prea mic.


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post Oct 17 2007, 05:25 PM
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Eu i-am mai dat putin avans si acum merge mult mai bine.Oricum motoarele de 2000 l jetronic 12v sunt cunoscute k sunt lenese la turatii mari,eu unul asa stiu
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post Oct 17 2007, 06:05 PM
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Nu stiu... am avut doar M30 2.5 ljetronic si dupa 4000 tragea intr-o veselie. Acum are o problema la aprindere si nu mai trage peste 4000 deloc. Proprietarul nu si-a batut capul, ca nu trecea de 3500 rpm.


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QUOTE (flo320 @ Oct 17 2007, 06:25 PM) *
Eu i-am mai dat putin avans si acum merge mult mai bine.Oricum motoarele de 2000 l jetronic 12v sunt cunoscute k sunt lenese la turatii mari,eu unul asa stiu

La turatii mari trebuie avans mai mare. Deci e posibil ca iti merge mai bine turata daca ai marit avans. Sa ai grija sa nu maresti prea tare, nu e bine pentru motor. Nu stiu cum e cu distribuitor de pe motorul tau, daca are avans centrifugal mechanic ( care mareste avans can turatia creste), poate ala e blocat.


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post Oct 17 2007, 07:12 PM
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Stiu k distribuitorul meu nu are platine si e modelul din anul 1984.Acum nu mai stiu ce mai are prin el
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post Oct 18 2007, 10:32 AM
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E cu vacuum, din cate stiu.


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post Oct 18 2007, 12:16 PM
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Da e cu vacum deci nu are avans centrifugal mecanic.Oricum acum masina se tureaza pina la 7000 si rupe.Mi-am reglat si aerul din debitmetru pe stand si acum totul e ok.Bine mai am o problema cu turometru care arata cam 500 ture in plus k mie pe stand ami arata 900 ture la relanti si el 1400.Cred k e de la acumulatorii din bord pt k mie senzorul de pe motor e bun.
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post Oct 18 2007, 01:41 PM
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Ai coding plug pus pe 4 cilindri. E vorba de un plastic negru infipt in spatele bordului. Vezi daca poti sa-l scoti si sa-l rotesti 180 grade apoi sa-l pui la loc.


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post Oct 18 2007, 08:50 PM
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Daca-l intoarce 180 de grade nu face nimic inafara de faptul ca n-o sa mai intre plasticul acolo, are o singura pozitie antiprost. Ii trebuie codeplug de 6cyl.


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post Oct 19 2007, 10:31 AM
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posibil... nu'sh de ce mi s-a parut ca la 318-le pe care l-am avut se putea rasuci si avea efect asupra indicatiilor turometrului...


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post Oct 19 2007, 06:26 PM
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Am scos de tot acel plastic si ami arata super bine.Dar cred k am miscat sau s-a intamplat ceva k nu ami mai indica temp.Am pus plasticu la loc si tot nu arata.Am scos si acumulatorii k ma enerva oil service si inspection k ma enervau.Merge totul din bord in afara de temp apeiORicum acei acumulatori nu trebuie sa influenteze cu nimic ceasurile din bord.Am vb cu un electricean de la bmw si a spus ca au leg strict cu oil si inspection,Ca dam jos noi bordu si miscam ceva pe acolo sau facem ceva pe la ei nu trebuie sa influenteze ceasurile indicatoare
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (flo320 @ Oct 19 2007, 07:26 PM) *
Am scos de tot acel plastic si ami arata super bine.


Stiam eu ca se poate cumva conf (9).gif
Am auzit si eu ca acumulatorii ar avea efect asupra functionarii unor ace de bord, dar nu prea cred.


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post Oct 19 2007, 07:37 PM
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Decat sa te iei dupa ce zice unul si altul cel mai bine gugaleste cu incredere, de preferat in USA.


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post Oct 25 2007, 05:28 PM
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Si in legatura cu avansul am vrut sa-l reglez cu lampa stroboscopica dar nu ami iese deloc.Mie ami mai trebuie avans dar dak ai dau avans sta la 2000 ture relantiu.Am incercat sa ai iau din aer de la debitmetru si de la valva de relanti dar nu mai scade aproape deloc.Eu vreau sa stiu daca pe furtunele care vin de la inj de pornire alea de aer si cel din capacul de culbutori trebuie vreo duza ceva?Oricum nu ami explic pt k aer nu pierde pe nicaieri,am dat jos admisia,pus garnitura noua.in fine verificat tot si aer nu scapa.Sunt bolnav k am si scos un consum de11% iasi -bucuresti si am mers max 120
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post Oct 25 2007, 05:47 PM
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Pai daca ai facut avansul cu lampa stroboscopica, inseamna ca ti-a iesit. Nu sacrifica setarile motorului doar pentru ca relantiul devine aiurea.
Dupa ce ai pus avansul vezi ce-i cu debitmetrul si regulatorul de relanti.

Daca stii ca ai reglat avansul si debitmetrul ( http://bimmer.roadfly.com/e28/messages/arc...02w09/7437.html ) vezi daca poti aduce relanti-ul la mai putin de 1000rpm umbland numai la regulatorul de relanti.


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Eu dak las avansul reglat dupa lampa sta la 2000 ture si nu mai am de unde s-al reduc credema.De asta vroiam sa stiu dak pe acele furtune mai trebuie vreo duza ceva.Si ca sa-mi stea relantiul ai micsorez din avans si sta la 900 dar masina nu trage deloc
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hmm din delco pleaca un vacuum verifica-l si pe ala(la fostul 323 al meu avea ca o supapa pe furtun care era sticata imdediat cum am scos-o masina a inceput sa mearga foarte bine)


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Sa o luam sistematic.Pina sa-mi fac motorul k era varza total scotea fum si la relantiu masina se tura super de bine si mergea dar scotea fum la greu.Dupa ce am facut motorul nu mai vrea sa mearga nici cum mergea cu motorul varza.Eu la mine la delco am doua iesiri pt vacum una duce direct in admisie iar cealalta trebuia sa intre intr-o valva care se ocupa de avansul de intarziere sau asa ceva,eu asa am luat masina vara valva respectiva.Dar intrebarea e de ce mergea motorul(se tura pina la 7000 in mers)cind era varza si acum se dureaza pina la 4500 in mers.A si nici filtru de benzina nu l-am schimbat de muuuuult?eu am modelul din dreapta pozei,eu nu am piesa 12

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la mine problema a fost piesa 8 am eliminat-o si masina a mers perfect daca nu ai piesa 12 e destul de grav cred ,nu stiu cum se mai regleaza avansul la tine smile.gif


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Atunci stie cineva de unde pot lua piesa cu nr 12 la un pret rezomabil.Poate sa fie si sh
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