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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
am un bmw e 30 si nu pot porni deoarece pompa de benzina baga continuu ma poate ajuta cineva va roggggggggggg........ motor m10 jetronic. am schimbat releu pompa de benzina , pompa de benzina , am verificat firele,dar nu pot sa o pornesc helppppppppp!
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inca vreo doua detalii: se pare ca pompa se invarteste imediat ce pune contactul, incontinuu. Asta n-ar trebui sa fie o problema majora, dar nu declanseaza electromotorul.
Nu stim daca ar porni trasa ca a venit zapada si inca nu-i incaltata de iarna. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
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This is why i don't like L-Jet. Caut-o de cabluri, dar cel mai probabil s-a dus in balarii un senzor. Simte ca-i prea frig afara si baga benzina cu lopata. Ori calamina prin mufe si nu-ti face contact corect pe undeva. Luciane, trebuia sa stii asta... ![]() PS: porneste-o impinsa, nu trasa. Cauta 2-3 prin zona sa puna umarul. -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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![]() 64% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 30-January 08 From: bucuresti Member No.: 1,439 Car: EX E12/E36 Engine: 1.8 /318is m44 ![]() |
Incearca trasa,ai mai multe sanse si e mai usor , ca e pe lant distributia!Ai verificat contactele de pe la electromotor?
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100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 ![]() |
cum adica pompa de benzina merge incontinuu?!nu inteleg?de verificat bateria,apoi electromotorul,pompa bazaie si amorseaza dupa ce pui contactul,so e normal.Edit jetronic vad ,locatie?poate ajunge careva sa ajute
![]() inca ceva cutie manuala sau automata? This post has been edited by alex230ro: Dec 26 2012, 11:42 PM -------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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![]() zijdelings geïnteresseerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp ![]() |
cum adica pompa de benzina merge incontinuu?!nu inteleg? Nici eu, parca l-jet amorseaza un pic cand pui contact, dar sa merge continu? Sune a defect de calculator sau instalatie electrica. Nu prea cunosc l-jet bine. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
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![]() 100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,891 Joined: 18-February 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 658 Car: E21 Engine: M10 1.6 90cp ![]() |
Faptul ca pompa merge incontinuu nu este o problema pentru ca injectoarele regleaza amestecul, la rechin aveam pompa pe direct si nu am avut probleme.
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![]() zijdelings geïnteresseerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp ![]() |
Paste la ce am primit si eu pe pm:
QUOTE BMW E 30 e cu injectie si carburatie pompa trebuia sa-mi bage o data presiune dupa care sa se opreasca ca eu sa pot da la automat dar ea merge continuu si nu pot sa pornesc . am schimbat releul de benzina , am schimbat pompa de benzina(externa), si am verificat sigurantele , releiele toate sant ok nu mai stiu ce as putea sa-i fac ........sant disperata nici un mecanic nu a reusit sa o porneasca ........ The owls are not what they seem. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
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100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 ![]() |
masina e pe injectie sau carburatie?
a verificat cineva daca bujiile dau scanteie? Pompa e normal sa bazaie inca ceva ,pompa de benzina e noua sau sh?a fost montata corect? This post has been edited by alex230ro: Dec 27 2012, 07:36 AM -------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
pe injectie si carburatie , pompa e buna si instalata corect da e normala sa bazaie dar ea baga continuu si nu se opreste bujiile sant ok |
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100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 ![]() |
nu prea exista injectie si carburatie,scrie te rog ultimele 7 cifre din VIN -sunt trecute la talon -coloana numarul de identificare si asa ne dam seama exact daca ai injectie sau carburatie.
a umblat cineva la partea electrica inainte sa faca probleme? This post has been edited by alex230ro: Dec 27 2012, 07:49 AM -------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 ![]() |
ok,so masina pare Jetronic din ce am inteles
http://www.firstfives.org/faq/ljet/jetronic.pdf asta am gasit eu,de aici daca preia cineva ![]() Din ce am inteles pompa merge inconitnuu cand se pune contactul,masina a pornit ajutata de cabluri dupa care nu a mai mers,motorul a fost segmentat!? ultimele 7 cifre vin: 1455533 so 318i L Jetronic zic eu -------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
nr identificare BMW WBAAC710301455533 putere maxima 77 tipul 184 EB POATE AJUTA CU CEV.........
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
inca ceva in momentul cand vreau sa dau la automat electromotorul da sa-mi arunce bendixul dar nu are suficienta putere din cauza ca imi merge pompa continuu si imi ia din curent |
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![]() zijdelings geïnteresseerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp ![]() |
Nu exista pompa sa consuma asa de mult in cat sa nu mai merge electromotor (daca ai baterie buna). Probabil s-a lucrat la masina si s-a produs niste probleme electrice.
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100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 ![]() |
bart
vezi si aici http://bmwzone.ro/forums/index.php?showtopic=11260&hl= poate unesti topicurile vezi si pdf-ul din linkul pus de mine pag 27 din linkul pus de mine: Combo Relay – Power and interface for the L jet system. •Combo relay provides switched power to ECU and injectors •Combo relay provides power to fuel pump (only when either air flow meter is open or engine is cranking) •Combo relays are built on PC boards which can get bad solder joints din pacate sunt cam praf la Jetronic ![]() -------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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![]() 100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 8,514 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp ![]() |
nu merge merge topics... trebuie mutat post cu post
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100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 ![]() |
atunci pun doar linkul ca ala e relevant ![]() http://www.firstfives.org/faq/ljet/jetronic.pdf poate ajuta si pe altii ,oricum motorul e M10 clar si injectia Jetronic zic eu,nu cred ca mai era carburatie in 85 -------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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![]() 100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 8,514 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp ![]() |
sigur e jetronic, a scris asta in primul post
![]() Povestea pe scurt e: la un moment dat a aparut o figura electrica, releul de semnalizare clickaia, aparent fara sa semnalizeze si becurile. Cam tot in timpul ala nu-i mai placea cum trage motorul, slabise. Un mecanic a zis ca trebuie segmentat. A segmentat. Dupa care a aparut noua problema, ca nu porneste. Initial pompa de benzina se comporta normal, baz scurt cand pui contact, dar dupa ultima tentativa de pornire ajutat de curent de la alta masina, pompa a inceput sa mearga in continuu iar electromotorul nu mai declanseaza. Asa ca trebuie luata electrica la puricat. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
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![]() zijdelings geïnteresseerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp ![]() |
Asa ca trebuie luata electrica la puricat. Da. Poate sa fie o masa slabita, un scurt undeva intre 2 plus-uri, etc. -------------------- Black heart scarring darker still
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100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Insiders Posts: 4,486 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 15 Car: E30 Engine: M42 ![]() |
pompa merge continuu ca primeste semnal de undeva in teorie semnaul vine de la Ecu sau de la electromotor?so as merge pe verificare masa si electrica la electromotor precum si daca la Jetronic totul e pus cum trebuie.
Cum zice mai sus •Combo relay provides power to fuel pump (only when either air flow meter is open or engine is cranking so ori airflow merge or engine cranking,pompa asa porneste una din cele e variabile e busita,simplu ar fi deconectarea debitmetrului daca pompa bazaie in continuare inseamna ca e de la electromotor,daca nu bazaie inseamna ca debitmetrul da semnal,so acceleratia apasata? ![]() This post has been edited by alex230ro: Dec 27 2012, 11:22 AM -------------------- cotetz 1,8is
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![]() zijdelings geïnteresseerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 7,961 Joined: 14-January 07 From: around here Member No.: 530 Car: 114 2002 / E12 528 Engine: M10 100cp / M30 165cp ![]() |
Debitmetru nu face nimic cand apesi acceleratie cu motor oprit
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
buna ziua!!!!!!! am o intrebare e normal sa am 2 fire groase pe electromotor?
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Eu am zis de la primul post ca-i un senzor dus cu pluta sau un cablu/divais care fura curent
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
buna!!!!!!!! pot sa spun ca am rezolvat intru-un fel cu pompa am gasit un fir ciupit si facea masa acum cand am pus contactul intradevar bazaie o data si se opreste , am pus o baterie la incarcat ca nu prea era ok si sa vedem poate am noroc VA MULTUMESC TUTUROR CELOR CE ATI FOST GRAGUTI SI MI-ATI FOST DE AJUTOR............
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
vreau sa va spun faptul ca am umblat la firele de la injectoare,le-am controlat ce a fost defect am reparat, am montat pompa veche si am observat ca functioneaza cum trebuie, am incercat sa-i dau la automat fara firul de excitatie de la bobina electromotorului, pompa mergea cum trebuie am zis ca nu am suficient curent in baterie si de aia nu cupleaza electromotorul , am bagat bateria la incarcat dupa care am mai aruncat o privire la masina pana se incarca. Am montat bateria dupa vreo 2 ore iam pus firul de excitatie la loc si am incercat sa o pornesc. Cand i-am dat la automat a clantanit electromotorul de vreo cateva ori dupa care pompa a ramas blocata din nou si acelasi cosmar baga continuu.....ce as putea sa fac ? va rog putin ajutorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........
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![]() 100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 8,514 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp ![]() |
cred ca un releu iti ramane blocat. Ala care comanda pompa. Da-i doua bobarnace si vezi daca se opreste pompa. Sau poate e altul...
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![]() Beer Powered ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 ![]() |
Schimba releul de la pompa de benzina cu releul de la stergatoarele de parbriz. Parca astea se potriveau intre ele.
-------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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![]() 100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 8,514 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp ![]() |
mi se pare ca releul de la pompa e unic.
La fel si ala de stergatoare. Cel putin asa-i la E28. Ar mai fi bun de cautat si releul care comanda electromotorul. -------------------- Inline 6 in a 5-er 4 ever
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![]() Beer Powered ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 ![]() |
Le E46 sunt la fel, facute in asa fel daca esti la drum si ai nevoie de schimb, sa ai de unde. La E30 chiar nu stiu. Am sa ma documentez, dar sunt prea lenes la ora asta si oricum nu cred ca mai schimba ea ceva in seara asta.
Una peste alta, parerea mea e ca bateria a stat prea putin pe redresor, 2h nu-i suficient sa se incarce, mai ales daca a stat mult in scurt probabil a si fiert. N-ai de unde incerca sa o pornesti cu alta baterie? Si inainte de asta verifica si sigurantele. Just in case. This post has been edited by xox: Dec 27 2012, 09:02 PM -------------------- Ex: M10B18(Pierburg)/18(L-Jetronic)/18(Pierburg)/M43TUB19/M20B20
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![]() 100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 8,514 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp ![]() |
totusi, daca era doar bateria, de ce face bendixul ca nebunu; si de ce apoi pompa face pe nebuna, ramane conectata
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![]() Beer Powered ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,699 Joined: 9-October 06 Member No.: 460 Car: E36 Engine: M43B16 ![]() |
Electrica-i de vina. Cred
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
buna !!! vreau sa va mai spun ceva in legatura cu bmw meu am mai aruncat azi o privire la toate releiele leam schimbat intre ele ca se potrivesc si am zis sa mai fac o proba.Pun pompa noua la locul ei si la primul contact merge bine, la al doilea merge continuu si a treia oara nu mai zice nimik parca sa ars nici un semn nimik............de ce oare ? astept ideile voastre....multumesc mult
Le E46 sunt la fel, facute in asa fel daca esti la drum si ai nevoie de schimb, sa ai de unde. La E30 chiar nu stiu. Am sa ma documentez, dar sunt prea lenes la ora asta si oricum nu cred ca mai schimba ea ceva in seara asta. Una peste alta, parerea mea e ca bateria a stat prea putin pe redresor, 2h nu-i suficient sa se incarce, mai ales daca a stat mult in scurt probabil a si fiert. N-ai de unde incerca sa o pornesti cu alta baterie? Si inainte de asta verifica si sigurantele. Just in case. am verificat siguantele sant ok. |
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![]() 100% BMW corupt ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 8,514 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 7 Car: E28 525i Engine: M30 2.5 147cp ![]() |
doar pus contactul, fara sa incerci sa pornesti masina? De trei ori si pac - a murit?
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
fara sa pornesc masina am pus contactu a mers ok pe urma am bagat-o pe conducte , am incercat sa amosez instalatia, dupa care a mers continuu. Iam luat contactu si cand l-am pus din nou nu mai mergea deloc pompa.Am pus pompa veche sa vad daca primeste curent,si primeste.Deci am curent
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
va pun si cateva poze cu motorul
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0% BMW corupt Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-December 12 From: bacau Member No.: 47,075 Car: E 30 Engine: M 10 77CP ![]() |
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