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post Oct 24 2010, 07:24 PM
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Am ceva probleme cu caldura la e32 lui lord_halo...
am pus termostat nou behr,,,apa sta pe jumate la drum,furtunele care pleaca din robineti si intra in cabina sunt la fel fierbinti,insa caldura nu iese,si nici nu prea are putere sa sufle aeroetrma nici pe maxim.sa fie filtrele de polen(care nu am dat de ele) infundate si de aia nu are debit de aer?
sa nu mearga pompita aia de sub robineti la parametri normali?adica daca ea nu ajuta la circularea apei spre calorifer?
pompita nu e arsa,de mers se simte ca merge,dar poate nu merge ok...
o adiere de caldura mai buna da daca dau pe dezaburire parbriz si atunci pleaca automat aeroterma pe maxim...
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post Oct 24 2010, 07:31 PM
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Daca are filtru de polen, il gasesti unde gasesti si 'the sword', in zona aia.
Daca furtune de tur si retur sunt fierbinte nu cred ca e o problema cu pompita. Turatia de ventilator sa regleaza bine? sau merge doar bine cand e pe max?


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post Oct 24 2010, 07:35 PM
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verifica/schimba filtrul de polen. Ajungi la el numai daca demontezi torpedoul. Nici al meu nu prea sufla.
Uite si un link sa te ajute link

Despre aerul care vine mai mult sau mai putin cald nu pot sa ma pronunt.
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post Oct 24 2010, 09:03 PM
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CITAT(bartro @ Oct 24 2010, 07:31 PM) *
Daca are filtru de polen, il gasesti unde gasesti si 'the sword', in zona aia.
Daca furtune de tur si retur sunt fierbinte nu cred ca e o problema cu pompita. Turatia de ventilator sa regleaza bine? sau merge doar bine cand e pe max?

turatia merge ok ca am schimbat sword-ul
nu am vazut loc unde ar putea fi filtre polen cand am schimbat sword..........mai desfac odata torpedo mai ma uit odata.

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verifica/schimba filtrul de polen. Ajungi la el numai daca demontezi torpedoul. Nici al meu nu prea sufla.
Uite si un link sa te ajute link

Despre aerul care vine mai mult sau mai putin cald nu pot sa ma pronunt.

ms,f bun link-ul,o sa mai arunc un ochi acolo.......


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nu am vazut loc unde ar putea fi filtre polen cand am schimbat sword

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QUOTE (db85amd @ Oct 24 2010, 08:24 PM) *
nu prea are putere sa sufle aeroetrma nici pe maxim.sa fie filtrele de polen(care nu am dat de ele) infundate si de aia nu are debit de aer?

Da, cel mai probabil. La mine asa a fost acum 2 ani. Si se apropie din nou momentul schimbarii, puterea cu care sufla scade din ce in ce mai mult. N-am gasit filtru de polen cu carbon cand am cautat prin toamna, ca il schimbam deja pana acum.


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post Oct 25 2010, 06:06 PM
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azi am desfacut din nou torpedo,am scos sword,nici urma de filtre polen...

arata undeva in primul link pus de david,cum arata un evaporator adica caloriferu de caldura car nu a avut filtru de polen,la un e34 din 88...
cred ca aia e problema la mine,nu are filtru polen din fabrica si are caloriferu imbaxit...
poza e asta din link
sigur si la e32 meu e la fel......

de unde naiba s-o imbaxi asa la un e32 dupa anii 87,cand eu nu am vazut pana acum la nici un e12 desfacut si am desfacut numai ale mele vreo 10,un calorifer murdar asa,si avea 30ani

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sunt si rame acolo in pamantul ala? sa ma f*t in ea de tara, uite ce praf respiram. asa se aduna si in plamanii unui om nascut in 87, daca nu chiar mai mult - ca masina asta nu s-a nascut direct in Rromania.


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TiL - n-ai de ce sa te miri....uiti ce ai spalat ?
acum poate n-o sa mai comentati cand vorbesc despre curatat / spalat radiatoare.
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post Oct 25 2010, 09:54 PM
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deci....poza care am pus-o e din linkul lui david,de la un e34 de afara care nu a aavut filtre polen din fabrica.ma refeream ca asa imbaxit e si e32 meu de aia nu are debit la aer si caldura


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Se vede radiador ala din gaura unde intr 'sword'-ul, deci pot sa vezi daca e pamant etc acolo.
Mihai, ai incercat pa langa mod 'auto' sa alegi manual sa sufla sus / jos? Sa nu fie o problema la mechanisme de deschidere clapete.


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CITAT(bartro @ Oct 26 2010, 09:07 AM) *
Se vede radiador ala din gaura unde intr 'sword'-ul, deci pot sa vezi daca e pamant etc acolo.
Mihai, ai incercat pa langa mod 'auto' sa alegi manual sa sufla sus / jos? Sa nu fie o problema la mechanisme de deschidere clapete.

mmmm.cred ca ceva e si pe la clapete,ca greu se muta daca dau la picioare si la jumate sau sus aerul...oricum e si mazga daia ep radiator ca am bagat mana pe la sword si e la fel ca cel din poze....se scoate greu caloriferu ala?sad.gif


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am gasit pompita de recirculare apa arsa..furtunele care ieseau din ea erau fierbinti pt ca trece apa prin ea,nu inchide...am schimbat-o insa nu am apucat sa dau cheie sa incalzesc apa sa vad cum si daca baga cald bine.ramane de vazut


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Pompa oricum nu inchide.. daca e arsa, trece apa un pic mai greu. Cu pompa anulata tot merge caldura, doar e un pic mai slab cand merge motor pe ralanti.


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corect, se poate anula / scoate pompa si caldura merge super cand se tureaza lejer motorul, totul e sa se poata face schimbul energetic 100% la nivelul radiatorului, asa ca = demontat , curatat si el si carcasa, scurgeri, eventual usor gresaj pe la articulatii voleti, are totusi niste ani, e normala o intretinere, gresat si verificat bucse si carbuni motor ventilator.

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M-am interesat odata sa fac o curatenie / revizie la clima de E32, doar ca trebuie demontat tot bord ca sa ajungi acolo. E ditamai uzina.


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bart - obrazul subtire cu cheltuiala se tine ... nu se poate sa ai pretentii sa ingrijesti un BMW ca pe o dacie.
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nu e vorba de tine in special, e o concluzie general valabila, apare cate unul pe forumuri care se supara ca se strica cate cva la bmw, care nu e o masina simpla , banala, dar ingrijire / intretinere 0....
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readuc topicul in discutie,,,,,,,,nu am mai dat atentie caldurii ca masina a stat pe dreapta toata iarna,acum s-au reinceput ceva lucrari.
deci,legat de faptul ca nu baga aer cald,decat rece...
pot fi arse motorasele alea rotunde vacumatice care actioneaza clapetele aerotermei?cum se pot masura?
si,daca erau arse nu mai baga aer unde il dirijez eu,caci dirijarea merge,sus jos sau la jumate,doar ca nu e aer cald.
repet,furtune de tur si retur la calorifer sunt fierbinti


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Vezi daca merg toate motorase - sunt 10, dac umbli la comenzi ceva trebuie sa se misca. Vezi si daca nu sunt rupte legaturi intre clapete si motorase. Ele sunt pas cu pas, nu cu vacumatic..
La mine era rupt la motoras 6 din link dar caldura mergea.
Acolo scrie ca motorase 3 si 6 sunt pentru temperature. Le vezi daca dai jos casetofon, sunt in stanga si dreapta acolo in spatele bordului. Vezi sa fie legate tijele alea, si la motoras si mai jos la clapete, vezi sa se misca motorasele in functie de temperatura selectata, sa nu fie blocate de cabluri de un casetofon aftermarket.. etc.


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Vezi daca merg toate motorase - sunt 10, dac umbli la comenzi ceva trebuie sa se misca. Vezi si daca nu sunt rupte legaturi intre clapete si motorase. Ele sunt pas cu pas, nu cu vacumatic..
La mine era rupt la motoras 6 din link dar caldura mergea.
Acolo scrie ca motorase 3 si 6 sunt pentru temperature. Le vezi daca dai jos casetofon, sunt in stanga si dreapta acolo in spatele bordului. Vezi sa fie legate tijele alea, si la motoras si mai jos la clapete, vezi sa se misca motorasele in functie de temperatura selectata, sa nu fie blocate de cabluri de un casetofon aftermarket.. etc.

am cum sa masor motorasele 3 si 6 sa vad daca sunt are ceva?


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Daca vezi ca nu sa misc deloc - poate incerci sa pui alta la loc, parca la sofer langa pedala de acceleratie mai e una care iese usor.
Se poate si masura, au un conector cu mai multi pini, trebuie sa aibe rezistenta mica intre ele, sunt bobine. Nu stiu daca intre toti pini e la fel, nu stiu cum e bobinat. Si aici poti sa folosesti un motoras bun ca referinta.
Chiar cand pornesti clima motorasele alea sa misc, fac o cursa completa deschis - inchis, de initializare. Cel putin asa facea la mine.
Mai am 2 sau 3 din motorasele alea, daca le gasesti stricat (nu cred) ti le dau.


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