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alex230ro
post Nov 1 2005, 04:36 PM
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Cum multi dintre voi stiu deja acum cateva luni am achizitionat un autoblocant (LSD) de 4,10 tot de atunci stau si analizez care ar fii efectele acestuia asupra masinii.Iata ce rezultate am obtinut folosind un programel numit Car Test:
1.masina echipata cu diferentialul standard de 3,23 avem:
0-40 km-2,1 s 0-80km-5,9 s 0-100km-8,9 sec top speed 207,4 km 0-100m 6,9 s 0-400m 16,3s @140,3 km
0-1000 m 29,8s @174,6 km viteze maxime atinse in treptele de viteza:1-55km 2-97km 3-153km 4-216 km toate la 6000rpm
2.masina cu LSD 4,10 0-40km-1,7s 0-80km-6,1s 0-100km-8,5s top speed 207,1km 0-100m 6,7s 0-400m 16,1@138,9
0-1000m 29,5s @175,5 km viteze maxime atinse in treptele de viteza:1-44km 2-76km 3-120km 4-169km la fel la 6000 rpm.
Din ce vad montarea ar insemna un demaraj mai bun pana la 100 km si un sprint mai bun in aproape toate celelante ipostaze fata de masina de serie mai putin 0-80 km ,dar din ce vad viteza maxima atinsa in treptele 1-4 va scade dramatic.Am avea :pro 4,10 demaraj superior reprize mai rele avantaj LSD contra:consum marit comportament periculos pe carosabil ud sau acoperit de zapada si motorul va merge mai turat.Astept pareri legate de aceasta schimbare.
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post Nov 1 2005, 04:49 PM
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De la 3.23 (un raport cam ciudat, nu era cumva 3.25?) la 4.10 mi se pare un salt cam mare.
Demarajul prin oras va fi spectaculos, dar cred ca la drum intins masina va fi neplacut de condus (prea turata) la o viteza de croaziera rezonabila (120+ Km/h) si va consuma cam mult.

Dar, daca tot il ai, pune-l pe masina si testeaza-l. E mult prea simplu sa-l montezi si apoi (daca e cazul) sa-l demontezi - deci nu are rost sa te bazezi pe pareri/impresii, ci pe o evaluare concreta.
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post Nov 1 2005, 05:03 PM
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fa altfel pastreaza blocantul din cel de 4,10 si monteaza raportul din cel de 3,23...si gata simplu si eficient.... biggrin.gif


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post Nov 1 2005, 05:10 PM
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Da da da, pune-l. Si daca nu-i bun, da-mi-l mie. N-ar fi mare diferenta de la 3.91 la 4.1.

Ma tem ca o sa te saturi repede de el pentru ca e mult prea scurt. Daca mi se pare scurt 3.91 pentru motor de 1.8, ce sa mai zic de 4.1 pentru 2.3litri. Dar ai un mare atu la mansarda pe care nu-l mai mentionez ca-l stie toata lumea biggrin.gif Bineinteles explicatia de mai jos iti va fi total inutila:
consumul poate sa nu-ti creasca daca-ti adaptezi stilul de condus, avand rapoarte mici poti sa schimbi la turatii mici. In Bucuresti nu ai nevoie sa treci de 1500rpm.


aaaa, diful tau nu-i 3.45?


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TiL>vezi ca eu sunt demult primul pe lista daca vrea sa-l dea. :finga:
Si nu, dif-ul lui nu e de 3.45 e de 3.23


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post Nov 1 2005, 05:49 PM
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TiL>vezi ca eu sunt demult primul pe lista daca vrea sa-l dea.  :finga:
Si nu, dif-ul lui nu e de 3.45 e de 3.23

atunci 3.25?

Se inseala carfolio.com?

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=128755 '83 323i 140cp
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=128744 '83 323i 150cp 2 usi
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod.../car/?car=30921 '84 323i 150cp 4 usi


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post Nov 1 2005, 08:50 PM
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liti explica robert de ce nu e bine sa scoti doar ambreiajele si sa le muti in diferentialul tau

Mai jos e un "copy & paste" a doua posturi de-ale mele, din mai 2005, de pe forumul in care activam la acel moment:

Faza cu cartusul de ambreiaje mi-a trecut si mie prin cap. In urma cu vreo 3 ani, era cat pe-aci sa cumpar un diferential E28 cu carcasa mare, raport 3.07:1, de la care sa iau ambreiajele si sa le pun in diferentialul meu 3.25:1 (care are ambreiajele cam duse).
Dar unul de pe un forum E28 (respectat in comunitatea respectiva) m-a sfatuit sa ma potolesc, deoarece pozitionarea si reglarea corecta a pinionului de atac fata de coroana nu este job pentru incepatori, ci pentru un atelier care are experienta cu asa ceva. Ca amator aflat la prima experienta de acest gen, poate sa iti iasa bine, dar numai dintr-un noroc chior. Sau sa obtii un diferential zgomotos, care se auto-canibalizeaza.
Rezultatul a fost ca m-am potolit.
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Este dificil. Se folosesc niste saibe distantiere, de diferite dimensiuni. Pui saibe mai groase sau mai subtiri, in functie de modul de angrenare a coroanei dintate cu pinionul de atac. Ai doua grade de libertate: in lungul axului pinionului si in lungul axului coroanei. Se foloseste un fel de vopsea, iar in functie de forma si grosimea petei de vopsea care ramane pe dintii coroanei te prinzi daca angrenajul este corect.
Ce am scris aici este doar ceva teorie, din ce am mai citit pe vremuri, la modul empiric.
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post Nov 1 2005, 11:04 PM
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eu unul voi schimba raportul diff-ului meu....de la 2,79 la 3,46....cand si daca o sa fie bine va anunt....deocamdata tre sa gasesc diff-ul de 3,46... biggrin.gif


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post Nov 2 2005, 10:26 AM
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Intre timp am mai facut aseara niste simulari 5-100 km sau rolling start acceleration rezulatele sunt uluitoare:
1.diff standard avem
ROLLING START ACCELERATION RESULTS

Starting vehicle speed: 5 kmh
Starting engine speed: 540 rpm
Starting gear: 1st

Optimum Shift Points:
1st 6000 rpm @ 55 kmh
2nd 6000 rpm @ 97 kmh
3rd 6000 rpm @ 153 kmh
4th 6000 rpm @ 216 kmh

Time to Speed:
5- 40 kmh............ 3.5 sec.
5- 60 kmh............ 5.5 sec.
5- 80 kmh............ 7.3 sec.
5-100 kmh............ 10.3 sec.
5-120 kmh............ 13.6 sec.
5-140 kmh............ 17.6 sec.
5-160 kmh............ 24.5 sec.
5-180 kmh............ 34.3 sec.

Time to Distance:
0- 100 m............ 8.2 sec.
0- 400 m............ 17.6 sec.
@ 140.0 kmh
0-1000 m.(1 km)..... 31.1 sec.
@ 174.5 kmh

Top Speed............. 207.4 kmh
2. diff LSD 4,10 avem:
ROLLING START ACCELERATION RESULTS

Starting vehicle speed: 5 kmh
Starting engine speed: 690 rpm
Starting gear: 1st

Optimum Shift Points:
1st 6000 rpm @ 44 kmh
2nd 6000 rpm @ 76 kmh
3rd 6000 rpm @ 120 kmh
4th 6000 rpm @ 169 kmh

Time to Speed:
5- 40 kmh............ 1.8 sec.
5- 60 kmh............ 3.8 sec.
5- 80 kmh............ 6.2 sec.
5-100 kmh............ 8.6 sec.
5-120 kmh............ 11.5 sec.
5-140 kmh............ 16.4 sec.
5-160 kmh............ 21.9 sec.
5-180 kmh............ 32.1 sec.

Time to Distance:
0- 100 m............ 6.8 sec.
0- 400 m............ 16.1 sec.
@ 138.8 kmh
0-1000 m.(1 km)..... 29.6 sec.
@ 175.6 kmh

Top Speed............. 207.1 kmh
Se observa ca in acest caz diff 4,10 ofera un castig de minim 1 sec in aproape toate categoriile


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post Nov 2 2005, 10:46 AM
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ai tot facut calcule peste calcule, da' pe masina il mai pui? biggrin.gif


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post Nov 2 2005, 08:04 PM
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eu am 4.10 la 325ul meu si sunt multumit nu ezita sa il montezi...
(este cumva diferentialul de la HAI?)
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post Nov 2 2005, 11:57 PM
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HAI a vandut un 4.10 si eu nu stiu?Va ucid!


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post Nov 3 2005, 10:12 AM
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biggrin.gif Diferentialul il am de vro 2-3 luni smile.gif si da este de la HAI mersi pt incurajari Uwe -consumul cum e? a mai crescut?


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post Nov 3 2005, 11:36 AM
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Rabanne, sa nu spui ca diferentialul asta facea toata treaba pe HAI iar cipul era pus asa, la misto biggrin.gif Glumesc.

Alex, pune-ti odata jucaria! biggrin.gif/


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am sa va raspund la toti pe rand

rabanne: diferentialul a fost vandut exact inainte sa fiu asa apropiat de HAI (ca prieteni), si fii sigur ca daca aflam de el era al meu smile.gif (de rezerva)

alex230ro: pentru mine consumul e irelevant ;ultima oara cind am facut consumul era de 9 oras si maxim 7 afara iar asta se intampla acum 2 ani si aveam motor de 1.8 biggrin.gif parerea mea este ca la un consum de 12-13 ce mai conteaza inca 0.5 l/100km ;am mai spus si o mai spun eu am ursul numai de distractie si pt. faptul ca sunt disperat de acest model;
eu unul daca as fi in locul tau nu as sta pe ganduri

til: am sa iti raspund si tie cu toate ca nu m-ai intrebat; in primul rand HAI are diferential de 3.64 (dar cam pe duca) iar un diferential de 4.10 intradevar ajuta la demaraj dar e cam turata in afara orasului la 3000rot/min in treapta 5 am cam 110-115km/ora
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Intrebare: ce raport are diferentialul meu de pe 318i '86? Pe carfolio am gasit 3.91.
uwe, stiu senzatia, de-asta spuneam ca mi se pare cam scurt chiar si diferentialul meu (folosesc masina mai mult pentru drumuri lungi).


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Ca fapt divers, stiati ca, in anii '80, Alpina a montat pe modelele sale diferentiale cu radiator de racire a uleiului?
Practic, era o pompa de ulei fixata pe carcasa diferentialului si antrenata prin curea. Pozele cred ca sunt sugestive.
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post Nov 4 2005, 04:27 PM
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Tot ca fapt divers, interceptore, baga o poza cu diferentialul tau. Mi-aduc aminte ca e o namila si n-am inteles de ce. De fapt ne vedem in week-end si o sa ma uit mai bine.


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Intrebare: ce raport are diferentialul meu de pe 318i '86? Pe carfolio am gasit 3.91.  
uwe, stiu senzatia, de-asta spuneam ca mi se pare cam scurt chiar si diferentialul meu (folosesc masina mai mult pentru drumuri lungi).


mda ,asa e...intre 4,10 si 3,91 nu este mare diferenta sau cel putin insesizabila
cat despre diferentialul tau , de cat sa presupui ca ai avea unul , mai bine bagate frumusel sub masina si verifica....este cel mai eficient
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Mi-e lene si nu ma roade atat de tare sa aflu smile.gif Oricum, 99% e 3.91


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Si pe mine ma bate gandul schimbarea insa cei din clubul de BMW din Ungaria mi-au propus schimbarea de la motorul 1.8 M10 de 3.64 la cele cu 4.10 sau 4.45 (deasemnea ca si cele de pe M40 M42).puteti vedea pe urmatorul link : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/e30.html , daca mai stii un diferential cu cutie mica de 4.10 sau speer mic ar fi beton m-ar interesa si pe mine
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Gata l-am pus tongue.gif pana acum e cum am anticipat demaraj spectaculos si comportament periculos pe ud biggrin.gif deh tre sa invat sa merg mai calm :ninja: Later edit:3,46 e diferentialul ce l-am avut montat pe masina smile.gif


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Alecs vezi ca m-am uitat in autodata si iti trebuie W90 la grup in spate nu ce ai luat tu 75W90


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:paranoid: 75W90 asa zice pe bmwe30.net ulei sintetic zic ei ca merge pt toate diferentialele normale sau autoblocante :paranoid:


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dappp. sa il pun si eu pe al meu. sa o fac sa porneasca, sa fac actele, sa iau carnetul si va provoc pe totzi. am sa fac filme cu comportamentul diferetialului. in fine. am dubii, ca pe tablitza nu scrie S, dar el este autoblocant. mi-e frica sa nu fie alt raport. nu stiu. oi vedea. cand il testez o sa vina si un specialist sa il probeze oleaca. oricum va anunt dinainte ca o sa am nevoie de jante de tabla si cauciucuri sh. :finger:
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Gata am gasit linkulhttp://www.bmwe30.net/cgi-bin/datacgi/data...0106&Section=11


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REDLINE :drool: am vazut ca va certati peaci. http://www.e30tuner.com/rebuild/index.htm
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gata...de ieri in loc de 2,79 lsd am 3,64 lsd....ce sa zic...masina e cu totul alta, urca in ture repede, se infinge altfel....e alta masina....treaba e ca am ramas un pic dezamagit de masina mea, dupa ce am mers cu CKT-ul care are un pic peste 295cp.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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alex230ro, poti sa te lauzi ca detii un dif de M3! smile.gif
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gata...de ieri in loc de 2,79 lsd am 3,64 lsd....ce sa zic...masina e cu totul alta, urca in ture repede, se infinge altfel....e alta masina....treaba e ca am ramas un pic dezamagit de masina mea, dupa ce am mers cu CKT-ul care are un pic peste 295cp.... biggrin.gif  :D


te dai cu florin ?


normal...cand o sa repare masina vedem ce si cum... smile.gif


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sa-si cumpere si motor M si abia atunci  :unibrow:

Ma dau si acum cu el ma :finger: doar ca ambele masini sunt pe dreapta momentan tongue.gif
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nu cred ca de mine zicea sa-mi cumpar motor m biggrin.gif

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am vazut azi cum arata si maine o sa-l vad si in functiune un ursulet 318i cu motor de 2.5, cutie de 2.5 +++ diferential de 1.8 cica rupe pamantul, da scartz si in a III-a


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gata...de ieri in loc de 2,79 lsd am 3,64 lsd....ce sa zic...masina e cu totul alta, urca in ture repede, se infinge altfel....e alta masina....treaba e ca am ramas un pic dezamagit de masina mea, dupa ce am mers cu CKT-ul care are un pic peste 295cp.... biggrin.gif  :D

Cuplu mai mare la roti ai, dar viteza maxima nu e cam mica acuma ? Diferenta e uriasa, 30% !
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gata...de ieri in loc de 2,79 lsd am 3,64 lsd....ce sa zic...masina e cu totul alta, urca in ture repede, se infinge altfel....e alta masina....treaba e ca am ramas un pic dezamagit de masina mea, dupa ce am mers cu CKT-ul care are un pic peste 295cp.... biggrin.gif  :D

Cuplu mai mare la roti ai, dar viteza maxima nu e cam mica acuma ? Diferenta e uriasa, 30% !
Treci de 150 in noua configuratie ?


nu e deloc mica....cred ca 150-160 pot atinge cu viteza a treia biggrin.gif ...oricum sa stii ca diff de 3,64 s-a pus din fabrica pe 325i....


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sigur trece, pe 525 aveam 3.64 si la 5500 aveam ~196 km/h in treapta IV. Daca motorul face fata, poate urca intr-a V-a pana la 250 km/h (la 2500 rpm intr-a V-a aveam 120 km/h)

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Ajunge la 190-200 cred, nu stiu rapoartele, dar oricum 318i nu ajunge la redline in a V-a

P.S. Ma refeream la ursuletul vazut de cristic


nici a mea nu ajunge la rosu in a 5-a :crybaby:
se opreste la 5500 sad.gif
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biggrin.gif in curand incerc sa combin blocantul de pe 4,10 cu un diff de 3,64 smile.gif
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tot lsd?

tu ce aveai inainte sa pui 4.10?
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Da ma iau LSD de pe 4,10 si pun pe un 3,64 pe masina am avut(si inca il mai am) 3,46 open :)Later edit:am mai facut aseara o plecare de la 3000 ture si tot patinez destul de rau chiar daca acum am 205-uri .
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:eek: :eek: adica le desfaci si iei de la 4.10 si pui la celalalt piesele sau cum?
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Ceva de genu asta daca nu merge revin pe 3,46-ele masinii .
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gata...de ieri in loc de 2,79 lsd am 3,64 lsd....ce sa zic...masina e cu totul alta, urca in ture repede, se infinge altfel....e alta masina....treaba e ca am ramas un pic dezamagit de masina mea, dupa ce am mers cu CKT-ul care are un pic peste 295cp.... biggrin.gif  :D

Cuplu mai mare la roti ai, dar viteza maxima nu e cam mica acuma ? Diferenta e uriasa, 30% !
Treci de 150 in noua configuratie ?


nu e deloc mica....cred ca 150-160 pot atinge cu viteza a treia biggrin.gif ...oricum sa stii ca diff de 3,64 s-a pus din fabrica pe 325i....


S-a pus, dar si cutia avea alte rapoarte.
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mi se pare normal smile.gif
in general, vitezele cu raport subunitar sint pentru "cruising", nu pentru viteza. eu am treapta V 1:1 pe pisica si ajunge la rosu, dar merge prea turata cind merg normal  :crybaby:

Pune-ti LSD de 325 sau M3 - raport demultiplicare 3.15


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Huh? Uitasi ca se potrivesc flansele de la diferential intre 320 si 325?
Scoti flansele de pe diffu tau si le pui pe ala de 325 sau M..
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Nu, au intrat pe santulet, altfel nu aveau cum sa intre..
Daca ai bani de 2l de ulei dela BMW, io iti imprumut cu placere vekiul diff de 3.15.. biggrin.gif


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Cum pot sa fac diferenta intre un diferential cu carcasa mare si unul cu carcasa mica ?


pai in primul rand unul are carcasa mare si altul mica

si ca sa observi mai repede te uiti la suruburile pe unde bagi si scoti uleiul

daca e unul sub altul e carcasa mare daca nu ...nu biggrin.gif
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OK . Cu alte cuvinte, eu am cu carcasa mare. Atasez si poza explicativa rolleyes.gif .
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CITAT(Adrian Pintea @ Jun 5 2008, 02:33 AM) *
care e mai bun? carcasa mare sau mica?

se spune ca "cel mic se sparge mai repede" dar.... asta e valabil in cazul in care il folosesti la capacitate maxima (cu un motor puternic)

in general daca are ulei nu prea se strica rolleyes.gif

iar la e30 se potrivesc toate intre ele (ca si montaj)

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Diferentialul open e foarte fiabil ! Cel autoblocant de ce nu e asa ? Sau mai precis, ce se strica in el ? ohmy.gif

eu nu am stricat nici unul si am avut si eu "perioada mea" in care mergeam des la vulcanizare biggrin.gif
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Sa ma lamureasca si pe mine cineva daca zic bine :

Diferentialele de E34 si E30 sunt identice, dar difera capacul din spate.
Pe E30 exista 2 tipuri de diferentiale, cu carcasa mica si cu carcasa mare. Cel cu carcasa mare este practic diferentialul de E34.

In poza este atasat un diferential E30 carcasa mica si un diferential E34/E30 cu capac spate de E30 .

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Sa ma lamureasca si pe mine cineva daca zic bine :

Diferentialele de E34 si E30 sunt identice, dar difera capacul din spate.
Pe E30 exista 2 tipuri de diferentiale, cu carcasa mica si cu carcasa mare. Cel cu carcasa mare este practic diferentialul de E34.

In poza este atasat un diferential E30 carcasa mica si un diferential E34/E30 cu capac spate de E30 .

Am avut dreptate ?

da, ai dreptate ! dar grija mare ca pe e34 sunt montate 2 modele de diferentiale (depinde de tipul de punte pe care il are), numai unul se potriveste si la e30 (cu conditia sa schimbi capacul)


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da, ai dreptate ! dar grija mare ca pe e34 sunt montate 2 modele de diferentiale (depinde de tipul de punte pe care il are), numai unul se potriveste si la e30 (cu conditia sa schimbi capacul)

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mda, asa ma gandeam si eu ca fostul proprietar a schimbat difful, ma miram eu de ce nu fuge curul pe ploaie si pe zapada si stau prost la capitolul sprint...oare cu un blocant 4,10 cum s-ar comporta?


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Da. O sa raspund pe topicul masinii.


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Salut! Am citit cu mare interes tot topicul , si pana la urma sunt putin bulversat, deci la a mea 520i e34, 150 de caluti, ce sa-i fac k sa am un demaraj mai bun asta ma intereseaza , chiar daca imi scade viteza maxima , k s-asa n-avem noi sosele pt viteza la care poate sa mearga un bmw, dar ma intereseaza sa-mi traga mai bn in depasiri. Deocamdata nush ce dif am , dar k idee tre cu raport mai mare? sau mai mic? decat am ,k sa traga mai bn.
Si din experienta la motoru asta de 2000 care ar fi cel mai potrivit?
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post Nov 9 2009, 05:50 PM
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Nu cred ca e rentabil sa schimbi dif-ul pentru demaraj... Raportul ar trebui sa fie apropiat, altfel masina n-ar mai fi practica. Oricum creste consumul. Ceea ce a pus fabrica e optim.

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M-ar interesa si pe mine un program de simulari sa ma joc si eu un pic sa vad ce mi s-ar potrivi cel mai bn!
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Diferenţialul stock e cel mai potrivit.
Inginerii de la BMW nu l-au pus după ureche ci pe baza unor teste.
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Dar poate fi cam boring, daca vrei distractie.


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Nu vreau distractie , dar sa fie un pic mai zvelta, sa ma ajute un pic mai mult in depasiri!!!
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Salut! Am citit cu mare interes tot topicul , si pana la urma sunt putin bulversat, deci la a mea 520i e34, 150 de caluti, ce sa-i fac k sa am un demaraj mai bun asta ma intereseaza , chiar daca imi scade viteza maxima , k s-asa n-avem noi sosele pt viteza la care poate sa mearga un bmw, dar ma intereseaza sa-mi traga mai bn in depasiri. Deocamdata nush ce dif am , dar k idee tre cu raport mai mare? sau mai mic? decat am ,k sa traga mai bn.


Cu raport mai mare iti trebuie pentru ce vrei tu.
Si aici poti sa te joci cu mai multe raporturi, sa vezi ce ti-ar placea. Vezi ca viteza e in mile pe ora. http://www.kabamus.com/garage/gears.html


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cam are dreptate ciupanezu smile.gif


Păi nu prea se transformă 520i în M5 dacă-i pune un diferenţial mai scurt. smile.gif
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Păi nu prea se transformă 520i în M5 dacă-i pune un diferenţial mai scurt. smile.gif


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