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post Feb 9 2010, 09:59 PM
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cum procedati? opriti motorul la semafoarele mai lungi?
vroiam sa aflu pareri pro si contra.
eu il mai opresc la semafoarele pe care le cam stiu si tin destul de mult.
economie de benzina, motor care nu merge in gol, aiurea...
astea ar fi pro
contra: baterie stresata mai des, electromotor la fel
basca am auzit ca in tarile civilizate e de bon ton sa opresti motorul la semafor din motive eco.
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post Feb 9 2010, 10:07 PM
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uzezi motorul cu porniri dese ...
economie de combustibil, prea putin... cel putin la obositurile noastre (LE jetronic parca da 8 secunde benzina prin al 7-lea injector, la pornire)


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post Feb 9 2010, 10:08 PM
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Nu.
Poate fi util, drept dovadă BMW-urile noi cu Efficient Dynamics care au funcţia Auto Start-Stop.

Din punctul meu de vedere, nu astfel va scădea poluarea.

Uzura motorului este accentuată doar la pornire la rece, nu la pornire īn general.

Mai degrabă se uzează electromotorul şi acumulatorul.

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post Feb 9 2010, 10:09 PM
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Eu mai faceam asta cand stateam in dr. taberei. Problema e ca deseori trafic sa misca asa in cat ca nici nu stai pe loc mult nici nu avansezi mult. Atunci nu prea merita. La cale ferate samd oricum il opresc.


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post Feb 9 2010, 10:31 PM
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Eu mai opream, dar la semafoarele unde erau lucrari pe carosabil deoarece tineau intre 5 si 20 min. Sub 3 min nu cred ca merita...
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post Feb 9 2010, 11:43 PM
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Nici eu nu opresc decat la cale ferata. La semafoare sub 3 min cum spun si ceilalti, nu merita.


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post Feb 10 2010, 06:59 AM
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Nu opresc motorul deoarece consumul creste si stresez si alte componente ale motorului.
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post Feb 10 2010, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (iorgos @ Feb 10 2010, 06:59 AM) *
Nu opresc motorul deoarece consumul creste si stresez si alte componente ale motorului.

In Olanda chiar au facut odata o informare pentru popor legat de chestie asta. Au calculat atunci ca sub 20 de secunde din punct de vedere de economisire de benzina nu merita.
Baterie nu cred ca sufere mult, electromotor poate fi schimbat, dar volanta e nasol cand se duce. Nu stiu cat de porniri 'tine' coroana de pe volanta.

Depinde si de masina. 2002 era usor de oprit / pornit, la E32 cu cutie automata e mai complicat, trebuie bagat in N sau P, miscari in plus.


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post Feb 10 2010, 10:22 AM
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nici eu nu il opresc daca asteptarea e sub 3min..daca e peste 3min ma dau jos si injur smile.gif))))))))))
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mai ales pana acum cateva zile ca nu aveam baterie ok,chiar ca nu opream motor la nici o stationare..
si de economisit...cat sa consume in 1minut doua....cred ca infim...
auzisem ca un 2.0/2.5 ia undeva la 1.8litri de mers pe loc la relanti intr-o ora...


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post Feb 10 2010, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE (db85amd @ Feb 10 2010, 10:22 AM) *
auzisem ca un 2.0/2.5 ia undeva la 1.8litri de mers pe loc la relanti intr-o ora...

si cand te gandesti ca un diesel ia 0.7-0.8...
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post Feb 10 2010, 06:26 PM
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Pai vaporul lui David arata ca ar consuma 1.8 litri pe ora la relantiu. Nu stiu cat de relevanta este informatia asta. Vom vedea.
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:11 PM
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Cānd vorbeşti de poluare nu te referi doar la consumul de combustibil.
Majoritatea diesel-urilor poluează mai mult decāt motoarele pe benzină.
O dovadă ar fi faptul că īn America, unde sunt norme de poluare mult mai stricte, pānă acum un an diesel-urile nu au putut trece normele de poluare şi, prin urmare, nu au fost comercializate.
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post Feb 11 2010, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (db85amd @ Feb 10 2010, 10:22 AM) *
auzisem ca un 2.0/2.5 ia undeva la 1.8litri de mers pe loc la relanti intr-o ora...

Mie OBC-ul imi afiseaza 1.0 litri/ora la stationare. Din cand in cand mai oscileaza, intre 0.9 1.0 sau 1.0 si 1.1, am vazut chiar si 1.2 uneori, dar in general sta la 1.0 litri/ora.

On-topic, nu opresc motorul la semafor, il opresc foarte rar cand sunt in blocaje si stiu sigur ca nu ne miscam cateva minute sau la bariera.


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post Feb 11 2010, 09:43 AM
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CITAT(georgem @ Feb 11 2010, 08:18 AM) *
Mie OBC-ul imi afiseaza 1.0 litri/ora la stationare. Din cand in cand mai oscileaza, intre 0.9 1.0 sau 1.0 si 1.1, am vazut chiar si 1.2 uneori, dar in general sta la 1.0 litri/ora.

eh,atunci cu atat mai bine,inseamna ca nu am inteles eu ok


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post Feb 11 2010, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (db85amd @ Feb 11 2010, 09:43 AM) *
eh,atunci cu atat mai bine,inseamna ca nu am inteles eu ok

Depinde foarte mult de generatie de motor. Cele cu vanos castig mult la eficienta la ralanti. De exemplu la M30 3,0 de E32 care are axa cu came un pic mai agresiva (overlap) nu o sa vezi consum asa scazut. La al meu nu am vazut sub 1,9 litri/ora. E un topic pe celalt forum unde isi au raportat mai multi consum la relanti in litri/ora, si se vede clar castiguri la motoare moderne. Cel putin eu asa cred.


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post Feb 12 2010, 11:40 PM
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nu opresc nimic decat atunci cand stau ft mult, pt 30-40 sec nu merita
la trecere cu calea ferata opresc.. cu conditia sa fie temperatura de afara prietenoasa sa nu trebuiasca frig sau cald in masina biggrin.gif


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